Poll: Jobs for veterans

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Who would you hire first?

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  • http://www.decorwise.co.uk/decorators-london/ Decorators In London

    I vote for the most qualified, regardless of military service.
    Quality first!

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    I vote for the most qualified, regardless of military service.
    Quality first!

  • http://www.decorwise.co.uk/decorators-london/ Decorators In London

    I vote for the most qualified, regardless of military service.
    Quality first!

  • Chris

    I don’t understand why you would hire them just because they are a vet.

    Unemployed is unemployed. 

  • Mgcoop

    Veterans can be brought up to speed for most jobs. They’ve been trained to learn quickly and adapt. Quality may not depend as much on aptitude but attitude. 
    Any corporation that holds a government contract should be required to give a percentage of their employment equal to that income to veterans. 

  • ?Mik

    They have sacrificed everything for us at home.  It is the honorable thing to do.

  • Liam

    I know veterans and what they go through.  Business has become my beat for life as I moved from educating families in business into face to face helping them plan and track success.  I would bet on the veteran’s dedication and bet on their capabilities, but I also give the edge to veterans for being there to protect our nation for us and our grandkids.  Giving them the edge for a chance is the least I can do.  They risked all for us!

  • http://www.facebook.com/giskardgray Chris Gray

    While an almost militant peace advocate, I  can not claim the mantle of pacifist but as a former 16-year old subject of Yale’s infamous Milgram psychological experiment, I can say I turned out markedly differently than either of my elder, veteran commissioned officer brothers or younger sister.  Still, with such siblings I have been in engaged in a lifelong struggle over issues of war and peace and not without an appreciation of the contributions of warriors.  Even while still in school, I found a veteran to befriend and with whom I briefly also lived.  I can sit with vets and speak knowledgeably.

    What I grew up to realize that the Richard Holbrookes, the peace-makers, need to know what they are talking about when argue the war-makers into peace!

  • Joe Williams

    Many of these veterans are like time bombs, just waiting to blow up. Hiring them is just asking for trouble.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cross1242 Steve Cross

    The biggest supporters of veterans is other veterans.  But, our society has fewer and fewer vets.  That means that there will be a lot fewer people around who might give a veteran a break because they were once in service.  The poll here, at least so far, shows some of that: Being a vet is nothing special to most people.

  • Steve Petix

    Veterans deserve special consideration because of their sacrifice on our behalf and because their training and maturity which should make them more valuable and reliable employees.

  • Chris

    What did they risk for us?

    No war since WWII was fought for us. Get real. Every war is fought for the corporations to profit.

    These poor saps are being used because their rich corporate masters don’t won’t there to be any other jobs for them to do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cross1242 Steve Cross

     Did you favor sending them to fight?  Do you think the country has some responsibility?

  • http://www.facebook.com/cross1242 Steve Cross

     You’re saying that you don’t understand what their country asked them to do?  Given that sacrifice, maybe they at least get to go to the head of the line.

  • Donna Divine

    Our company, TDB Communications, Inc., HIRES VETS FIRST.  We provide employees for the federal government in a variety of positions across the US.  TDB is a Service-Disabled Veteran Owned Small Business located in Lenexa, Kansas.  The positions range from general administrative, clerical, legal paralegals, project management, technical writers to professional IT and Business Intelligence and Analytics Engineers.  

    We are currently looking for Paralegals, Legal Secretaries and Data Research Analysts for a project located in the Lee’s Summit MO area.  If you are a VET and think you qualify, please call 913-327-7400 and ask for x8331.  DKD   

  • Edie

    What a fantastic show about veterans job and homeless needs and poverty in the innercity black ghettos from last weeks show. You bring us education badly needed on these unspoken and uncovered subjects that we need to know about and do something about. Your show is a godsend and gives voice to the voiceless. I wouldn’t miss a show every week. It is like oxygen in this baren media landscape of meaningless politics.

  • jan

    Last I knew, Congress hadn’t cancelled the GI Vet bill which, as I understand it, allows them to go to college, apparently receive stipends for housing while in school, and/or money to start a business.  Many employers give them extra points on exams which allows them to get a job instead of someone who passed with a higher score.  Other employers simply state they give veterans preference and hire a veteran before hiring someone else.  

    As I was told and I understand it, if you serve in a war zone you get extra money.  If that’s not correct any more I’ll retract that.  And if the military isn’t paying enough for the non-war zone military and their families to live on, then let me suggest the wildly radical notion that the Pentagon be forced to cut back on the $400 a gallon gas in Afghanistan and stop spending on things like the $3,000,000,000 they wasted on a drone they shelved (how much have they wasted elsewhere that no one’s talking about yet?) and start paying all of their soldiers a living wage that doesn’t make them dependent on food stamps.  

    1/4 of the kids in this country are food insecure/do not know where their next meal is coming from.  There are a lot of people who aren’t getting a living wage who aren’t in the military and cannot afford a college education or start a new business because there is no GI bill for the rest of us.  There are a lot of people who can’t find a job, not because they’re lazy but because the people without jobs outnumber the openings, tens of thousands to one. 
       
    What the veterans actually need is medical, physical therapy, etc., and, for those who need it, psychological help to cope with where they’ve been and what they’ve seen, that is close to wherever they live.  That is the logical and reasonable thing to do.  Education, starting a business, just about everything else has already been addressed.   If you go much further than that you run the risk of formally creating a class system in America.    

  • jan

    Last I knew, Congress hadn’t cancelled the GI Vet bill which, as I understand it, allows them to go to college, apparently receive stipends for housing while in school, and/or money to start a business.  Many employers give them extra points on exams which allows them to get a job instead of someone who passed with a higher score.  Other employers simply state they give veterans preference and hire a veteran before hiring someone else.  

    As I was told and I understand it, if you serve in a war zone you get extra money.  If that’s not correct any more I’ll retract that.  And if the military isn’t paying enough for the non-war zone military and their families to live on, then let me suggest the wildly radical notion that the Pentagon be forced to cut back on the $400 a gallon gas in Afghanistan and stop spending on things like the $3,000,000,000 they wasted on a drone they shelved (how much have they wasted elsewhere that no one’s talking about yet?) and start paying all of their soldiers a living wage that doesn’t make them dependent on food stamps.  

    1/4 of the kids in this country are food insecure/do not know where their next meal is coming from.  There are a lot of people who aren’t getting a living wage who aren’t in the military and cannot afford a college education or start a new business because there is no GI bill for the rest of us.  There are a lot of people who can’t find a job, not because they’re lazy but because the people without jobs outnumber the openings, tens of thousands to one. 
       
    What the veterans actually need is medical, physical therapy, etc., and, for those who need it, psychological help to cope with where they’ve been and what they’ve seen, that is close to wherever they live.  That is the logical and reasonable thing to do.  Education, starting a business, just about everything else has already been addressed.   If you go much further than that you run the risk of formally creating a class system in America.    

  • BLH

    Assuming-qualifications are roughly equitable and transferrable-every thing else being equal-go with Vet! Same logic would apply to Peace Core /America CoreVolunteers -both for doemestic and foreign. Service to the county should factored in-I would also give priority for individuals who have spent significant amounts of time with organizations like Habitat for Humanity and Similiar types of community service-
    Shows self sacrifice and should be considered-

    -Barry

  • Demreyes

    The government should put at least a mandatory 10% of the work force in the federal, state or city employment for the returning veterans. The country owe them big time and we can’t ignore their heroic deeds in protecting our country and the people and the enitre world.

  • Aim3006

    Have we not had enough learning process from at least one war; vetenam. How dare our country bring home our survivors, men and women and take away their homes and leave them jobless. How about our polititons have a placement program for them HELLLLLLO! Our polititions  says to our HEROS…YOU  MAKE THE AMERICAN PIE BUT WE ARE ENJOYING IT

  • jan

    Okay.  You made me go there to show you how free from facts and without basis some of your arguments are.

    Department of Labor Statistics for veterans/non-veterans.  
    http://www.dol.gov/_sec/media/reports/veteranslaborforce/
    Veterans make more than non-veterans $5,000 per year for men and $10,000 per year for women.  In employment in the public sector they have a 10 and 11 point advantage over non-veterans; 21.1% vs 11.3% for men and 29.7% vs. 18.2% for women.

    I’ll let you read the rest of it on your own but clearly, the problem is not with those who survive the war without disabling trauma.  The problem is that those who need help are not getting it. 

    Bureau of Labor Statistics for those of you who like wading through numbers and statistics.
    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/vet.pdf
    and
    http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2011/ted_20111110.htm
    and
    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/vet.nr0.htm

  • Charlotte

    I would hire the vet because as a nursing instructor, I have seen the difference in maturity, work ethic, and responsibility that the military vet has.  They are so much more willing to learn and produce.  Thank you for your service to our country.

  • Chris24all

    I would give a veteran priority because they have served this country giving up rights and benefits that non serving Americans have, for the service of this country and to preserve our right s and way of life. People don’t understand what you sacrifice to serve, even the possibility of losing your life or the ability to live a normal life. I see military personel as the ultimate citizens and i feel they deserve our respect and admiration. Its shameful for our country to treat them at they have been treated once they have returned from service. I feel they should get employment preference.

  • hammerB

    I feel that a core American ideal is that each person should be judged individually on his or her own merits.  A Veteran’s service to promote and defend American ideals and interests is something that we all respect.  If that service, in addition to all the other traits a candidate possesses, makes them the best candidate for the job, then they should get it.  But to say that a person who belongs to a certain subset of the population should get a job over another candidate simply because they belong to that subset of the population seems to run against the very ideals Veterans served for.  Nevertheless, in reality, we’ve strayed from many of the core American ideals in this country’s history (see crony capitalism).  So providing a Vet with a job over more qualified people won’t be the straw that broke the camel’s back. 

    If it’s my business, I’m hiring the best person for the job, period.

  • Lk822

    When I heard last year that there were over 3500 homeless veterans on the streets of my hometown, I was appalled! 

    How dare we put these kids through the horrors they go through, then throw them away when they get home!  I wonder how many of us adults think we could face the things they face and come back whole?  Yet we send our children, who are ill-equipped to handle these terrors, to war.  Of COURSE they are going to come back wounded mentally and physically, drug-addicted and alcoholic. 

    We should have jobs, low-cost or no/cost housing, physical rehabilitation facilities, mental health programs, treatment centers for substance abuse and 12-step programs ready for them when they come home.  These programs should not be “available” if they want to use them, they should be mandatory, paid for by the government who sent them to war, and the veteran should be a participant until he is healed and capable of being a healthy, productive member of society with a chance to live a decent life. 

    Most of these kids have never had a chance to know life as we know it because they went off to war at such a young age and have had horrible things happen to them.  Now they need our help to get well so they can have families, jobs, homes, and live an everyday “normal” life like the rest of us.  They need to learn how to deal with the atrocities of war, and the addictions, mental horrors and physical losses it has caused. 

    Any one of us would have a monumental problem dealing with only ONE of these issues, homelessness, no job, the terrors in our head from the things we have seen and been put through, loss of a limb(s), drugs, alcohol, not knowing how to get along in the “regular” world, and yet we expect our vets to deal with ALL of them, and return to society as well adjusted citizens ready to carry on like nothing happened.  “You’re dismissed.  Here’s the street!  Live life!” 

    I think that when our vets come home they should be sent to a military base where all of these services are available to them for as long as they need them.  Then when they are WELL, they can be dismissed from the service they have given to this country.  If they are dismissed and it turns out that they are still not capable of dealing with their demons or taking care of themselves or their families, they should be required to go back into treatment until they are. 

    Now as for the original question…
    Who would you hire first?

    Veterans. Non-veterans. The most qualified, regardless of military service.I would hire the VETERAN most qualified for the job at hand.  I would want to do my part to get these vets off of the streets and back to a life where they can be productive, support themselves and hold their heads up once again.  They deserve it!

  • Daniel

    A job is a job. Why should anyone have an advantage of working for the army???
    That person made his own choice. Why treat him differently than a person who made a different choice in terms of profession?