Arizona Immigration Law

 

BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: In Arizona, a tough new immigration law is prompting widespread protest from many in the religious community. It requires police in the state to check the status of anyone they suspect may be in the country illegally. To protest it many in the faith community have designated this weekend as a special time for prayer for immigrants. Among those condemning the law are the US Catholic bishops, who have long lobbied for comprehensive immigration reform.

post01-azimmigrationBishop Gerald Kicanas

We want to talk now with one bishop on the frontline of the battle. He is Gerald Kicanas, bishop of the Roman Catholic diocese of Tucson Arizona. Bishop, welcome. Several lawsuits were filed this week, more are promised, more are in the works, some of them from clergy. Where does the Church stand on this? Are you going to try to stop this bill, this law?

BISHOP GERALD KICANAS (Roman Catholic Diocese of Tucson, Arizona): Even the Arizona legislators, Bob, are considering modifications to the bill, which suggests that they themselves are concerned about how it could be misinterpreted. So there will be legal action, certainly, and we’ll monitor that and participate where we feel it would be appropriate.

ABERNETHY: Do you think the church might become a party to the lawsuits to try to stop the bill?

BISHOP KICANAS: I don’t know that we’ll be bringing the lawsuits forward. Those will be brought forward by, certainly, others, but we will review those, and perhaps consider being a friend of the court where it would be appropriate.

ABERNETHY: Do you think in the end that the bill can be stopped, that the law can be stopped?

BISHOP KICANAS: Well, there is great national concern, certainly concern within our state among religious leaders, among many portions of our community. It has to be addressed that this bill does not well represent the state of Arizona and is not going to resolve the issues that we are facing.

post02-azimmigrationABERNETHY: Bishop, remind us again of what the church says, what Christian teachings say about the stranger.

BISHOP KICANAS: Every Christian tradition speaks of the importance of welcoming the stranger, that every human being is to be treated with dignity and respect, and so for us in the church that is a core message of our teaching—that all human life from conception till natural death is to be respected, and certainly the migrant is among those who are the littlest and weakest among us, and they need to be respected and treated with the dignity they deserve.

ABERNETHY: But as you know perhaps better than anyone, people feel so strongly about this. Many people in Arizona, they want to stop the illegal immigration, they want to get rid of some, of the people who are already there. They fear crime, they feel changes in culture. You’ve been getting a lot of calls, I’m sure. What do you say to people, many of them, I’m sure, your friends, who say, “We disagree with you on this”?

BISHOP KICANAS: Well, certainly, I first have to listen, to hear what they are feeling, their concerns, their worries, and then try to help them to see what the church is teaching, because a lot of times people haven’t really heard what is being said or haven’t read the law, and so it’s important to encourage them to learn about the situation, understand it better, and most important if they could come to meet the migrant I think some of their fears and concerns would be alleviated.

ABERNETHY: Bishop Gerald Kicanas of Tucson, Arizona, many thanks.

  • Kevin

    IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.
    IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.
    IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
    IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.
    IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.
    IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.
    IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.
    IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET…………………………..

    1 – A JOB,
    2 – A DRIVERS LICENSE,
    3 – SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
    4 – WELFARE,
    5 – FOOD STAMPS,
    6 – CREDIT CARDS,
    7 – SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
    8 – FREE EDUCATION,
    9 – FREE HEALTH CARE,
    10 – A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON ,
    11 – BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED
    IN YOUR LANGUAGE,
    12 – AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY’S FLAG WHILE YOU
    PROTEST THAT YOU DON’T GET ENOUGH RESPECT.

    No wonder this Country is broke.

  • Allen Scott

    Although I may not be as learned as the good Bishop Kicanas that will not stop me from pointing out an obvious omission from this discussion. That point is the illegal status of these strangers. I am all for helping out those who are less fortunate then myself but I have to draw a line on helping my neighbor when my neighbor breaks into my house. Trespassing is a crime in most jurisdictions where Catholic churches reside. I know for a fact that most Catholic churches in my neighborhood are locked when not being used. Why are doors locked if we are to welcome the stranger? Shouldn’t we keep our doors open and stock our refrigerators in order to feed and house anyone who wants to come stay with us?

    We are a nation of laws, granted anymore it would appear we are more a nation of lawlessness but none-the-less we are a nation of laws. If these “strangers” as you call them do not care enough to respect our borders and our country then they by their own actions are inviting a less than favorable response to those actions. I am more likely to help my neighbor if they ask for help then when they demand it.

    Citizens of this country are punished for illegal activity and yet you seem to be espousing the pardon of the illegal activities of non-citizens.

    This is what I propose, if you are here illegally and you choose to remain undocumented then eventually your sin will find you out, and you will be punished accordingly. However, if you wish to confess your sin and repent of our transgressions then I am all in favor of leniency but there will still be consequences of your poor choices. God forgives sins but there remains the consequences of our poor choices.

  • E. Patrick Mosman

    What is the Catholic Church’s position on the regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners in Mexico?
    Does it protest openly the treatment of illegal immigrants in Mexico? What does illegal mean to Bishop Kicanas?
    “– The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?
    — If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show “contempt against national sovereignty or security.” They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.
    — Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).
    — Law enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens’ arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.
    — Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens’ identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.
    All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico’s Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security Policy.
    Under the Mexican constitution political speech by foreigners is banned. Noncitizens cannot “in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.” In fact, a plethora of Mexican statutes enacted by its congress limit the participation of foreign nationals and companies in everything from investment, education, mining and civil aviation to electric energy and firearms. Foreigners have severely limited private property and employment rights (if any).”
    Source: How Mexico Treats Illegal Aliens By Michelle Malkin April 28, 2010

  • Becky

    I say yea yea yea for Arizona. Kevin and Scott are right. I in my late 60.’s Do you think we can get extra help NO. I have MS. when my mother got Dementia we had to sale are family business so we could pay for help. then when we met the rules for Health & welfare she could only get $39.00 a month on food stamps and they only help for part of her care. Our seniors need help we worked all of our lives and we get no nothing when we need it. The illegal’s have borked our system.. SEND THEM HOME

  • Bob Green

    What part of the word “ILLEGAL” does the media, and the “compassionate” priests, and the race baiters like Al Sharpton not understand? These Illegals come here for all the “freebies” and slowly, but surely, destroy the greatest economy the world has ever known. When they have succeded in turning the USA into yet another 3rd world country, where will they go next?
    Kevin (above) didn’t mention what happens to a US citizen who illegally enters Mexico. It’s three to five years in prison. Have you ever seen a Mexican prison? Trust me–you don’t want to go there!
    To illustrate, just look at the violence of the “Illegal Immigrant” protesters and compare that to the “tea partiers” that the media loves to hate. No one has yet to produce any evidence of the “violence” or the “racial slurs” they were accused of–there’s even a $100,000 reward for anyone producing that evidence. The D.C. police commented afterward that there wasn’t even any trash left behind after the Tea Party demonstration. For another comparison, take a look at the aftermath of the “million man march.” Trash was ankle deep everywhere.
    Last, but not least, there is nothing in the Arizona law that isn’t already in the US Federal law. If the Feds were doing their job in the first place, Arizona wouldn’t have needed to take independant action.
    BTW, I’m a practicing and devout Catholic, but it seems like every time the Church gets mixed up in politics, it’s just plain wrong. Instead of lifting others up, the Church’s position will only bring us down to the lower level (economically speaking).

  • Tom

    Kevin, of all those countries you listed, all of which have their faults, where would you rather live?

  • John B

    What planet is the good bishop from?! He is all about, how these law breakers need to be, “respected and treated with the dignity they deserve”. Which he apparently interprets to mean they should not be asked if they are here legally. I have to produce a drivers licence if asked by a cop, or other ID if not driving when asked…is this demeaning to me? Am I not being respected? Or is it OK to place more importance on driving regulations than on national sovereignty?!

    What is his plan? Perhaps we just do away with borders altogether, and just stop worrying about the rocketing school and medical costs we tax payers bear to make things “respectful” for a bunch of scoff-laws. It’s not fear or racism bishop, it’s concern for our communities and our pocketbooks.

  • Marcello

    Gotta love Bob Abernethy’s characterization of those who oppose illegal immigration:

    “They fear crime, they feel changes in culture.”

    Has it ever occurred to this guy that maybe they fear losing their jobs to an undocumented worker who can be more easily exploited? Has it ever occurred to him that maybe they’ve already lost their jobs, and their friends, families and neighbors might also be unemployed?

    Or is it just standard operating procedure for the media to suggest that America’s working classes are racist?

    I’m a Catholic and I respect my Church’s efforts to remind us of the dignity of undocumented workers. But America’s working classes also have dignity. They’re playing by the rules and getting shafted because of it. I pray that my Church will show some compassion for them as well.

  • Magdalena Guadalupe Herrera-Beaudois

    To Becky: We should send YOU back to wherever you learned English!!! (You had to “sale are family business” or did you have to “sell your (our) family business.” and “borked” instead of broken!) I’m Hispanic, my father was a Mexican immigrant. I had to learn English, but I did not stop there. I speak, read and write 3 languages – how many more do you write and speak incorrectly? My father is now in a nursing home – not able to get any help from the government, so please don’t generalize! We NEVER got anything for free – not even free lunch at school when we qualified for it! I come from a very poor family, but I was able to earn a doctoral degree – without a cent from the government, and sadly neither from my parents because they didn’t have the money! My father did come into this country illegally, but he worked hard to earn his citizenship and has been an outstanding resident and citizen, so do NOT generalize! Yet, if he were to walk the streets of Arizona, anyone could stop him (or us) for the simple reason of his race! This immigration law has nothing to do with security – it has everything to do with racism!
    To all others: Christians are showing their colors now – who is really living and following the Gospel?
    Bishop Kikanis is from the same planet where all Christians are from – he’s reflecting the mission Jesus left us. Read the Gospel, for Christ’s sake (pun intended!).

  • E.Patrick Mosman

    If Bee Brown is correctly quoting Bishop Kicanas “Well, certainly, I first have to listen, to hear what they are feeling, their concerns, their worries, and then try to help them to see what the church is teaching” and ““Our national self-righteousness, often honestly disguised as patriotism, is in one aspect part of that adolescent self-assertion which the United States has never quite outgrown, and is sometimes crudely expressed, both by individuals and nations, in sheer boasting.” indicates that the Church as represented by the Bishop is teaching and championing illegal activity and showing a true lack of Charity by belittling those who support enforcing the law of the land. Obviously Bishop Kicanas has joined with Mr. Obama who leads those who claim that Jesus was a big-government socialist provider with regard to helping those in need and reducing individuals personal responsibility to “Love the Neighbor’ and replacing it with government programs is a misreading of His message. Jesus Christ made the point “to render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s” with no guidelines as to how the Romans were to spend the tax monies.
    “For you will have the poor always with you” Matthew 26.11 and nowhere in the New
    Testament does Jesus Christ lay the responsibility for caring for the poor, the sick the hungry or thirsty, the homeless or any oppressed people on any governmental body. He did not cite King Herod, the priests of the temple, the local mayor or the Roman powers as the source of Charity. He made it an individual responsibility time after time in His sermons, in His parables and in His own acts. The Good Samaritan was not an example of “Love thy neighbor” because he stopped at the nearest inn and asked that a 911 call be made but because he acted, providing aid,comfort and financial assistance to his neighbor.

  • Richard E. Villamana

    Magdelena-Guadalupe Herrera-Beaudois is generalizing in the comment, “This immigration law has nothing to do with security – it has everything to do with racism.
    I agree with Bishop Kicanus that we should pray to Our Lady of Guadalupe for a solution for this complicated and divisive subject of immigration.

  • Pat

    Ordinarily, Americans prefer the prohibitions against police stops without probable cause, but document fraud in the U.S. has become so pervasive, that even that privilege may have to go.

    If it goes for illegal immigrants, it surely must go for citizens. That is the end result.

    The real problem is to prevent document fraud so that probable cause can be given effect, and the police and other law enforcement officials may be sure that any identity presented is one rooted in lawful identity.

    The problem is not one solely limited to illegal immigrants.

    Attorneys are not above misrepresentation and cultivation of fraud that permits such deception, often by arranging the documentation required.

    The ABA Code of Professional Responsibility for attorneys simply hasn’t worked sufficiently to prevent attorneys from wearing the badge of fraud from their accumulated lack of responsibility under the color of law. There is no longer a vote of confidence in the majority of attorneys currently licensed, or practicing.

  • m.fletcher

    I am finding the most difficult part of the issue being the one-sided stand everyone takes. There seems to be no such thing as a moderate American – you’re either for it or against it, Democrat or Republican, love it or hate it, black or white. We seem to have such a football mentality about everything. There are 2 sides to most issues, but you’d … See Morenever know it. I haven’t meant one person yet that isn’t totally against this bill or absolutely for it. Of course the extremist are the most vocal too, as is the media.

    There are good and bad things about it – immigration is a problem, for the immigrants especially but what faith should we have in the police in making things better, we already saw how Sheriff Joe handled things not too long ago. I can’t see that our Governor had much interest in improving the situation when she signed this bill – it is clearly meant to really stir things up, and not in a good way either.

    At the same time, I am not for breaking ANY laws; it is illegal to be here undocumented, so anyone willing to take that risk should always understand they could get caught. But should they be harassed, profiled or thrown in jail – definitely not, and hopefully that won’t happen, and if it does, I”ll be out there protesting too.

    There couldn’t be many people in AZ that haven’t witnessed the value of the Mexican influence here. The majority are respectable, hard-working, contributing members of our community. They are church-going people with very strong traditional values that only want a better life for their family. They are fleeing a government that is corrupt and supportive of drug cartels. I’d like to think there are many Americans that would take equally desparate measures for the sake of their family.

    Why doesn’t the American government do something to encourage the Mexican government to reform their country instead of supporting the corrupt officials that are making their citzens flee in desparation?

  • Evelyn

    Do you really think that Arizona Immigration Bill may turn to Unconstitutional Anti-Immigrant Bill
    Still online polls support the Law. http://immigration.civiltalks.com/

  • Deodora Chavera

    It is so sad to read such hateful comments coming from so called christians. There is such a fear and lack of christianity here. All Mexicans are not corrupt, gangbanging thiefs living on welfare like most of you hatemongers want to believe. They are just people that God made just like any other race. In all races there will be hatemongers,thiefs,murders,lazy welfare recepients, ect..But just like us they are a people of God only trying to make a decent living. We all migrated to America. This land belonged to the Indians and Mexicans first. It was taken away from them without payment. It was by death that it was acquired.
    In the 40′s 50′s and 60′s the immigrants from Mexico were needed to help cultivate our Country. They were hired with a smile,low wages and poor living conditions while Americans got wealthier. It became a trend until we let our country get in such an economical mess and no one seems to know how to fix it. So now immigrants are a threat. They are taking jobs that no one wants. They are being hired by the very Americans that are protesting them being in this country. Big American Company greediness has been our downfall not the poor Mexicans. But hey, someone has to be blamed. It must be unethical to blame ourselves, after all we are so perfect. And let’s not just blame the Mexican immigrants. Lets blame the Puerto Ricans, El Salvadorans, Guatamalans,Hondurans and anyone else of latin orgin.
    Immigrants come here to work hard and try to earn a decent living. I agree that they should try to get legalized. But most do not know how to go about it and do not speak the language. Most do learn it eventually. Our laws should help them get legalized and be citizens of this country if they want to live here. Anyone that hires them and knows they are illegal should have a stiff fine imposed on them. Bet that will stop alot of immigration real fast.
    I believe they should deport any illegal gangmembers or all gangmembers, for that matter. white,black,brown or yellow to any faraway island where they can kill themselfs if they want to, or learn to survive without violence.
    I am of latin orgin and a proud 4th generation American my children are 5th and my grandchildren are 6th.
    Stop the hate, read the laws, learn to love and trust those that mean no harm to you.

  • Deodora Chavera

    By the way, our 1st, 2nd,3rd,4th,5th and 6th generation American families have never been on welfare. although I did babysit through Catholic Charities for 2 white families from New York that used the system. They were on welfare. They had free babysitting while they went to free college classes. They had free health and dental. Free food and clothing money allowance. I know because they told me first hand and they seemed to be so proud of scamming the system.

  • Ann Reische

    Deodora Chavera – thank you for pointing out that 200 years ago most of the western lands in the United States were inhabited by Indians. The history of Americans in moving west is not free of illegal and murderous acts perpetrated upon these indigenous peoples. As an American, I’m not proud of this history.
    That said, I’m also not proud of my fellow Americans when they cannot see many of the truths concerning this issue. Most hispanic illegals are here because there are jobs available to them and there are no jobs in their homeland. They want to work and the vast majority of the American businesses who employ these people are those who want cheap labor. WE give them jobs. WE hold this economic stick in front of them and many times are happy to pay them cash. Under the table. Can you imagine that..Americans paying employees under the table. Who benefits from that?
    I live in the suburbs of Chicago. I see hispanics cleaning toilets, busing tables, digging up sod for new fancy patios, and showing up before 7 am for menial labor jobs. I don’t see many white, native born Americans working at these jobs or complaining that they are not available for them. Let’s face it, WE like the cheap labor and lord knows, WE don’t want to clean toilets or dig ditches.
    So, my fellow Americans, we collectively share guilt in perpetrating the presence of illegals.
    I am also a practicing Catholic. I was privileged to experience Bishop Kicanas when he was a Bishop in the Chicago Archdiocese and I was making music at St. Patrick’s church in Wadsworth. I found him one of the most amazing people I have ever met. Only the Wisdom of the Spirit could have seen 13 years ago having him in Arizona at this time. He’s right about the scriptures and the welcoming of strangers.

  • John Smith

    this is offensive to me because it specifically targets hispanics. ill use the example of an Airport. if you are at an airport, and are asked to be subjected to a “random inspection” well you may ASSUME that if you are black, brown, yellow, whatever color you may be, that its because of your race, but again that will ONLY be an assumption on your part. but the fact that they soley have targeted hispanics in Arizona completely justfies the argument that this is a “RACIST” law. if Arizona had only made the law stating that they were able to ask ANY citizen for identification at any time, there would be no argument, regardless if we could ASSUME that this law was specifically created for immigrants.

  • Marnia Martin

    Jesus, would not turn away a refugee. He was one. He also cried tears of blood when he saw into the future the things people (racists) would do in his name. You who claim to be Christian and support immigration reform are heathens. Jesus thinks you’re a jerk.

    And as for you Kevin from April 30, are you Irish, are you aware of what racism and crimes were committed against your kind in the early days of America? Ever seen “No Irish need Apply”??????

    As for your whole thing on:
    IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.
    IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.
    IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
    IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.
    IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.
    IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.
    IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.
    IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET…………………………..

    1 – A JOB,
    2 – A DRIVERS LICENSE,
    3 – SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
    4 – WELFARE,
    5 – FOOD STAMPS,
    6 – CREDIT CARDS,
    7 – SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
    8 – FREE EDUCATION,
    9 – FREE HEALTH CARE,
    10 – A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON ,
    11 – BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED
    IN YOUR LANGUAGE,
    12 – AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY’S FLAG WHILE YOU
    PROTEST THAT YOU DON’T GET ENOUGH RESPECT.

    That’s not why this country is broke. That’s why this country rocks!

    Bring em all in I say. This is after all, a melting pot. I’m a blond blue eyed whitie and I would sooner have every coffee colored compassionate Mexican in this country and no more of “my own” color any day over you disgusting racist (un-American) white trashers. It makes me ashamed of being white. The more we let in, the stronger our country will be and eventually we’ll get others to join us in a Global Economy without borders and the world will be a better place!

  • Carmen

    This country will not succed without illigals. They do the job you white people leave to go on welfare. They do the job your white children don’t do because they go to college to smoke pot, get drunk or do illigal things. You should be happy that at least illigals come to this country to work and pay bills. Next time you drive by the farms please take a moment to think about hard labor. While you are enjoying your weekend, they working making sure you have vegetables in the supermarket.

  • Jessica

    I think that all of the people who commented like Carmen, Marnia, Deodora especially need to wake up and smell the coffee. I don’t believe this is the best solution to the problem however something needs to be done. I’m sure most of you are immigrants this is why it offends you. I am a 10th generation American and let me tell you something. It has nothing to do with being racist or christian. It has to do with the fact that citizens who have been in this country for a long time can not get any benefits due to illegal immigrants or legal for that matter using them up. They are hurt in other countries and come here to use medical, financial, and many other services that are intended and have been paid for through American citizens. They are taking away jobs from americans as they will work for less!?!?!?!? So this means that the american should suffer and not get a job or take a pay cut because these immigrants will work for less? Our security, disability, and many other monies used to help americans is dwindling due to this fact. I guess I don’t understand what part you people don’t understand about ILLEGAL immigrants. As Kevin clearly stated it is true in other countries there are serious reprecussions to trespassing which is what these people are doing. We need to focus on our own american people who are suffering and stop worrying about immigrants who come from third world countries. The only reason you are angry is because you are one and want your family here. GO HOME!!!!!! We are way OVERCROWDED!!!!!!!! SMDH >(

  • Lesly

    What kind of jobs are you talking about? The jobs illegals take are the ones whites don’t want. I’m pretty sure white people would not want to work out in the fields under the blazing hot sun for like 20 hours a day, but illegals do because they want a better future, better than the one they would have back home. If they’re “taking” your jobs, then fine, go get yourself a job out in the fields. And after you realize how extremely difficult it is, maybe you’ll stop complaining. There are a lot of immigrants here, but guess what, they contribute to the economy because they are consumers, they actually buy food and pay rent and that helps the economy. The only americans who suffer are the ones who didn’t do anything with their lives and work at a grocery store or restaurants, and that is their own faults, not the immigrants. And sure, most immigrants probably did not do anything with their lives either but because, for example, Mexico is economically worse than the U.S, so they can’t pay for school and clothing and supplies because they were born into poor families. So do not try to blame immigrants for things like that.

  • jose

    @jessica you say illegal immigrants take your money, and yet we pay taxes WITHOUT getting a refund, we work at minimum wage at places no else could and it is a fact not even you would not last under a hot sun working out in a farm picking up the crops.AND one last thing YOUR FAMILY WAS AN IMMIGRANT TOO(unless you are a native American) Didn’t your ancestors come here for a better life? look at history, America is nothing without immigrants immigrants built America. So next time you say immigration is a problem y don’t you look at your family history and go back to where you family is original from.