LUCKY SEVERSON, correspondent: It’s about midnight, the first of November, known in the world of Voodoo as the Day of the Dead—a time to visit a cemetery and the spirits of those who have moved on. This is New Orleans, and the Voodoo priestess leading the celebration is Sallie Ann Glassman.

SALLIE ANN GLASSMAN: We all have loved ones who have passed, and what a comfort to be able to visit with them and to know that they are there with you and to be able to tell them that you love them and know that your message is received and just be in their presence again. It’s a tremendous comfort.

SEVERSON: It’s been a long evening, starting with the ritual dancing, the beat of the drums—Sallie Ann in her element. There are other Voodoo priestesses in New Orleans, but she is one of the most popular, one of the most unlikely—a Jewish girl from Maine who says she knew as a child that there was something different about her.

post01-voodooGLASSMAN: I started to put things together and realized that particularly adults were a little taken aback by me, and they really seemed a little afraid of me, and then I started realizing I knew more about them than they were telling me.

SEVERSON: Those outside the Voodoo realm seem to have always been afraid of it. She thinks she knows why.

GLASSMAN: I think when you ask questions about why is Voodoo so vilified the clearest answer I can give you is that Voodoo recognizes an invisible world of great power and of spiritual power and that the surface reality is really just the surface of things. There is a vaster, more beautiful world going on inside, throughout, above, beyond, within all of that.

SEVERSON: A majority of the Voodoo practitioners are women, and many are Catholic, according to Martha Ward, a professor of anthropology at the University of New Orleans. She wrote a book on the queen priestess of them all in New Orleans, who was actually two women with the same name, a mother and daughter, each known as Marie Laveau.

PROFESSOR MARTHA WARD: They were good Catholics. They were married and buried within Catholic traditions.

post02-voodooSEVERSON: And there are other similarities, she says.

WARD: Catholics have a lot of saints. They lose something so they have a saint for losing something. They have a saint for battered women. Whatever you want, there’s a saint that will specifically help you.

SEVERSON: In Voodoo they’re called spirits, the spirits of ancestors.

GLASSMAN: There are all these myriad spirits that are really intermediaries, and first I should say that there is a supreme deity in Voodoo. There is a God called Bon Dieu. But in between God and humanity are these thousands of spirits. Maybe one time you’re possessed by Ogoun, the warrior spirit, and another time you’re possessed by Erzulie Freda, and you see the world through rose-colored glasses.

KAREN JEFFRIES: When I look at Voodoo, I see this is a group of spirits that are there to help us in everyday life.

SEVERSON: Karen Jefferies moved to New Orleans after divorcing her husband, a Lutheran minister. She says she grew up in a fundamentalist Christian home.

JEFFRIES: Christ is still my foundation of spirituality, but then I find that Voodoo acknowledges another spiritual realm.

SEVERSON: She now owns a bed and breakfast in the French Quarter.

post03-voodooJEFFRIES: Shortly after I purchased this house I heard about a Voodoo ceremony for the protection against hurricanes, so I went and out of curiosity it was really fascinating to me. So I ended up going back to all the bigger public ceremonies that Sallie Ann Glassman would hold.

SEVERSON: As the celebration of the Day of the Dead danced on, there seemed to be a discernable change in Sallie Ann’s countenance.

GLASSMAN: There are different levels of possession that a person can experience, and when I go into that kind of a state I have no idea what’s happened. I just know that when I come out of it people are looking at me funny, and then I’m in a different place than I was before.

SEVERSON: Sallie Ann says she has been accused of casting spells on people, something she says she wouldn’t do even if she could. She says using black magic can be risky business. Professor Ward says cursing someone in Voodoo, such as sticking pins in dolls, is not something to fool around with.

WARD: All religions are used that way, period, full stop. I’ve done it and you’ve done it. Have you ever cursed somebody? We’re all capable of bringing mild to big curses on others. In Voodoo, what goes around comes around, and if I curse you, I’ll get fixed.

SEVERSON: She describes Voodoo as a religion that can be shared with other religions. In New Orleans, back in the early 1800s, Voodoo was the widely accepted religion among slaves, until the slave uprising that threatened white slave owners.

post04-voodooGLASSMAN: If you were a slave living in captivity and hard labor, and your prospects were certainly very limited, this belief in an invisible world of great spiritual power would certainly be empowering, and if you were a slave owner intent on keeping a people down, oppressing them, and this belief would be terrifying and disturbing, and instead of saying that the situation or the institution of slavery was this terrible evil, it was much easier to say these people are evil and we’re just keeping them contained.

WARD: They said “slave rebellions” like the same way we say “crime.” They were terrified. Voodoo went from being an ordinary, accepted thing to a demonized, stigmatized, racialized, sexualized white ideology.

SEVERSON: Sallie Ann says she knows what it’s like to be called evil.

GLASSMAN: And I’ll say to them how can you possibly think that it’s alright to call me evil? How can you think that? I’ve certainly been called a witch, sometimes a good witch, sometimes a bad witch. I’m not a witch. I’m just a person like anybody else.

SEVERSON: But she’s not just anybody else when she walks through the neighborhood. Everyone seems to know her and like her.

GLASSMAN: Being a priestess is a demanding job, and I say job lightly because it doesn’t pay. People come to me and need things. They need help. I’ll try to be a mediary between these individuals and help them to those crossroads where human prayer meets spiritual presence and do all kinds of healings.

post05-voodooWARD: Sally has worked tirelessly here in the community. She makes the streets safer because that’s something the spirits can help us do if we ask them—make our streets and neighborhoods safe for us. Help people put on roofs after Katrina.

SEVERSON: The priestess says the spirits have always protected New Orleans from hurricanes, and Katrina would have been worse if the spirits hadn’t intervened.

GLASSMAN: As it happened, Katrina did not hit us over the head. It did turn to the east, and it did downgrade from a Category 5 to I think it was a Category 3 or lower when it hit, and it wasn’t the hurricane that kicked our butts. You have to spend a little time taking care of your environment or you’re going to get hurt.

SEVERSON: After Katrina she spearheaded the drive to build this multimillion-dollar health and healing community center to help those struggling to rebuild their lives, both physically and spiritually. Still, she says, there are people who say it’s not a good idea to have a Voodoo priestess involved in such a public project.

GLASSMAN: But I always say to myself, you know, Voodoo’s early ancestors endured slavery and captivity, and they kept their beliefs alive. Who am I to be upset over having to defend a practice? Who am I to say I can’t handle this?

SEVERSON: It seems improbable that Voodoo will ever be widely regarded as anything but scary and dark and, in Sally Ann’s view, misunderstood.

For Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly, I’m Lucky Severson in New Orleans.

  • Roger Steinbrink

    The New Orleans Healing Center is one of the best things to happen in NOLA since Katrina.
    Sallie Ann Glassman & everyone else involved with the Healing Center are to be congratulated for a job well done.
    It’s unique, multi-faceted approach to addressing community concerns is an inspiration to all.
    There should be one in every neighborhood.

  • Cynthia Schneider

    I have had the pleasure and honor of meeting and getting to briefly know Sallie Ann. She is one of the kindest, humblest human beings I’ve met. Her life is dedicated on every level to make the world a better place. I don’t practice voodoo, but if I ever needed spiritual assistance I wouldn’t hesitate to consult with Sallie.

  • Dr. Herukhuti

    The white supremacy and white normativity of having European/European-Americans representing and speaking for Vodou (Voodoo) is so glaringly problematic and insulting to African people. As a practitioner and scholar of African spiritual traditions and scholar of the intersections of spirituality and culture, I have watched R&EW and enjoyed the coverage for the most part. This is the worst piece of journalism I have seen produced by the show so far. I am deeply bothered by the enormity of the whitening undertaken in this report. I know you could have done better, but you failed to do so.

    Dr. Herukhuti
    Founder of Black Funk: The Center for Culture, Sexuality, and Spirituality
    Professor of Culture, Sexuality, and Spirituality, Individualized Studies BA Program, Goddard College

  • John

    I thought your story failed to mention the African roots and the ties to old African religions seems to be a glaring oversight in your story. Also, you seemed to create a predjudice against Catholics in the way your story was developed because people might misinterpret that “Voodoo is a Catholic cult” which is certainly not true. That inference was quite inaccurate. Again it has its roots in African culture NOT Catholicism. Voodoo was always been an underground religion- and how could you overlook that fact in your story too? So I would say you are bigoted against Catholism because your story misrepresents the basic facts of where Voodoo origiinates and why it exists.. Why not do a story about next time about how the Protestants were responsible for the death of the hundreds of witches at Salem Massachusetts. And don’t fail to mention that until a hundred years ago anyone who practiced witchcraft in Protestant America was usually hung or put in jail. Actually you might want to check this; I believe it is still on the books in New York State as being illegal to be a practicing witch.

  • Priestess of Voodoo

    I am a Priestess of Voodoo and come from old Creole roots, I approve of Ms.Sallie Glassman as being the face of American Style Voodoo. Race is only a social construct on the physical place and has no bearing in the spiritual world. The Lwa can choose who the Lwa wants because the Lwa looks at her spirit and her williness to offer service not the color of her skin. The Lwa does not want a mean spirited person representing Voodoo. Hollywood had done enough damage to this religious as it is with it’s negative typecast. The roots of Vodou are African, however not everyone practices that style of Voodoo. If the truth be told most people know that most of our clients are Caucasion they are not Africans, and many African Americans do not want the stigma that is attached to Voodoo and tend to shy away from it. I must be very difficult for her to constantly prove herself and her ability. I wish her success in her spiritual journey. In closing I will say that Voodoo is a private practice for many of us. She did state she did not grow up in the Voodoo religion, therefore, the fear of speaking about it is there for her.