Multifaith Theological Education


SAUL GONZALEZ, correspondent: With Korean-American drummers leading a line of professors, a new experiment in American religious education began this fall. This was the opening of southern California’s Claremont Lincoln University, which describes itself as America’s first interreligious school of theology, one that will train pastors, rabbis, and eventually Muslim imams all on one campus. The school’s philosophy was captured in the opening remarks of Muslim-American religious scholar Najeeba Syeed-Miller, a professor at Claremont Lincoln.

PROFESSOR NAJEEBA SYEED-MILLER: The diversity of humankind is not a curse from God. It is a sign of God’s creation, and the beauty of humanity is in our very differences.

GONZALEZ: What do you hope to accomplish here at Claremont Lincoln? What’s the grand vision?

PHILIP CLAYTON (Provost, Claremont Lincoln University): You have to get beyond the point of people defining their religions by the traditional walls.

GONZALEZ: Philip Clayton is Claremont Lincoln’s provost. He sees this school as offering an alternative to traditional religious education.

post01-multifaitheducationCLAYTON: When you train rabbis in one school, pastors in another, imams in another, you put them out into communities they create an “us versus them” mentality. What if we do something that’s never been done before? Let’s train them in the same classroom. Let’s let them work out their differences in their day-to-day education. When they go out into their communities you won’t find them doing the “us versus them,” but, we hope, the “we.” What that would for the face of religion in America would be staggering.

GONZALEZ: Claremont Lincoln is actually the creation of a much older institution, United Methodist-affiliated Claremont School of Theology, founded in 1885. It partnered with southern California’s Academy of Jewish Religion and the Islamic Center of Southern California to form this new school. Students attending this school can get master’s degrees in divinity, rabbinic studies, and Muslim counseling.

INSTRUCTOR: I’d like you to stand or to turn in the direction that you normally pray.

GONZALEZ: But all are required to take classes like this one that emphasize interreligious education and understanding. Many of the students feel they couldn’t get this kind of multifaith education anywhere else.

WALLY BURMAN (Student): Most of the reason I’m here is I looked at the other colleges and other programs, and it appeared they were preparing students to be leaders in the church of yesterday, where Claremont is training people to be leaders in the church of tomorrow.

GONZALEZ: This school’s ambition to train Muslim clerics is important to Valentina Khan, a Muslim-American student of Iranian descent.

post02-multifaitheducationVALENTINA KHAN (Student): I definitely think that we need to have is a voice that’s an American voice as Muslims. I mean, having somebody in Saudi Arabia telling us how it should be here in America is absolutely, in my opinion, not the way I’d want to be told.

GONZALEZ: However, the creation of this school has also generated some criticism.

CLAYTON: I’m actively involved in blogging and social networking, and I began to find sites that would label what we were doing as the work of the devil, and people absolutely guaranteeing the blogosphere that I was on my way to hell, so that it really drew a hostility. People felt that we were undercutting the way they defined their entire religious tradition, which is this oppositional and exclusionary approach.

GONZALEZ: However, many of the students and faculty at Claremont Lincoln don’t want to ignore the tensions and theological differences between their faiths.

SYEED-MILLER: I actually hope that there is conflict. I often say when we get together in interfaith dialogue we try to “out-nice” each other and say, “Oh, you know, you’re wonderful!” “No, you are wonderful!” If we are truly going to be conversation partners, we need to say, “Look, this is how I view your tradition.” I think we really need to get into conversations about history, because so much of what we carry in interfaith dialogue is about the negative histories that each of our communities has had with one another, so if we are not willing to go there then I don’t think any of us are going to be able to move forward.

post03-multifaitheducationGONZALEZ: Beyond America’s changing religious landscape, there’s another reason why Claremont went multifaith: survival. Like other schools of theology and seminaries during these tough economic times, this campus faced a declining enrollment and a tightening budget. Allowing students from other faiths to train here is one way to keep the lights on and the doors open.

CLAYTON: This is an extremely hard time for American theological schools. We could go on with a dwindling number of Methodists students, but we decided we wanted to be ahead of the curve.

GONZALEZ: Well, ahead of the curve because you had to be. I mean, you had to open up this institution to other faiths to keep your head above water.

CLAYTON: Sure, but we had a 45-year history of being edgy. We were always sort of pushing the envelope, and so we decided we would push the envelope on this one.

GONZALEZ: To help it go multifaith, this school received a $50 million grant from philanthropist David Lincoln and his wife, Joan. In their honor, the school was named after them. Clayton believes to survive more and more schools of theology and seminaries will have to adopt Claremont’s interreligous approach.

CLAYTON: We’re starting to get visits from academic deans and presidents who say, “Oh, we’ve see where you’re going. Can we talk about this new movement?”

post05-multifaitheducationGONZALEZ: But skepticism remains high.

DENNIS DIRKS (Dean, Talbot School of Theology): It’s fine for Claremont. It would not be good for us.

GONZALEZ: Dennis Dirks is the dean of the Talbot School of Theology in southern California, a Christian multidenominational evangelical institution. He says religious clarity, not a mixing of faiths, is essential to a religious school, arguing a multifaith approach could weaken the curriculum and anger alumni and other campus supporters.

DIRKS: We’re frequently asked, “Do you admit non-Christians here?” They want to know. They want to hold us accountable for that, so that’s something that we want to look at very carefully.

GONZALEZ: And they want to make sure that the non-Christians are not here.

DIRKS: Well, yes, not as enrolled students, because they are fearful of diffusion of the curriculum.

GONZALEZ: But do you think it’s easy for faiths to cohabitate like that in theological instruction?

DIRKS: No, I think it’s very difficult. I think there are great challenges.

GONZALEZ: However, at Claremont they think the future is on their side in an increasingly multifaith America.

CLASSROOM SPEAKER: Some of us are looking in a Jewish direction. Some of us are looking in a Muslim direction. Some are looking in a Christian direction. And yet we are all looking in a God direction.

GONZALEZ: Beyond Christians, Jews, and Muslims, administrators here are already talking about enrolling Jains, Buddhists, and Hindus.

For Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly, I’m Saul Gonzalez in Los Angeles.

  • Claudia Pearce

    Fantastic story!
    Thank you.

  • Allan Hayes

    Please include Humanists and similar.

  • Channah

    I am at an age I am not interested into going into any ministry…no matter the religion. But, oh! How I wish I could enroll in such a school for my own, knowledge, friendship, and enjoyment. I think I could become a fulltime student.

  • Rev. Henry Galganowicz

    Excellent. We need more, all over the country. Do refer to Hartford Seminary, which is been at this for several years already, and the Pluralism Project in Harvard, also several years of experience and research.

  • Jonathan Oskins

    Great story! The woman identified as “Instructor” is Sheryl A. Kujawa-Holbrook, who co-teaches our class “Interreligious Dialogue and Leadership” along with Najeeba Syeed-Miller.

  • Humanist

    Will these students and instructors read books on scientific/critical thinking? Will they read “The God delusion” by Richard Dawkins, “god is not great” by Christopher Hitchens, “why I am not a Muslim” by Ibn Warraq, “Why people believe weird things” by Micheal Shermer? I doubt it.

  • Claudia Pearce

    Dear Humanist, PBS didn’t have a chance to include it, but Harvard’s Humanist Chaplain and author of “Good Without God,” Greg Epstein, spoke at the launch of Claremont Lincoln (you can hear him in the video of the launch in the news section of our website). Furthermore, we regularly cover science and religion in our classes, and have atheists among our students. We don’t believe science and religion are mutually exclusive and embrace critical thinking.

    On a different subject, the rabbi identified as “classroom speaker” in the video and text above is our PhD student, Rabbi Zev-Hayyim Feyer.

  • Rev. Allan Bazzy

    I think a multifaith seminary is an outstanding idea whose time has come. The world is getting smaller through the Internet, jet travel and global economics. It is necessary for us to understand each other better. What better place to start than on a campus of religious study. I applaud the idea.

    Have you ever heard of ChurchSHARE? It is a spiritual campus in Bradenton Florida where 16 different religious communities share the same space. Jews, Christian, Muslims, Buddhist and Hindues all have regular services and classes. It is a campus of religious diversity yet each spiritual community is true to its own tradition. If you would like more information on ChurchSHARE go to ChurchSHARE. net.

    Good for you Claremont

  • Jonathan Oskins

    You stole the words right out of my mouth, Claudia.
    And Channah: i am an M.A. student here and not interested in ministry, either, which is what the M.Div. students are pursuing. I am interested in social justice and scholarship, with my B.A. in the academic Study of Religion at UCLA, not a seminary environment at all. Even if you are not interested in ministry, you should definitely check our university out!

  • Damian

    Hello Humanist. I just graduated from Claremont School of Theology (part of the Claremont Lincoln Consortium) and I took an awesome class called “Are Religion and Science at War?” At this school the answer is no – they are not at war – they should not be at war. It was one of the most thought-provoking, challenging and rigorous courses I’ve ever taken. BTW, I’m non-religious, but I came here because they are willing to grapple with the big questions of our existence. Plus, I got to hear and meet Greg Epstein, the secular humanist chaplain from Harvard. This school is a remarkable place.

  • Nora Jacob

    I’m currently an M.Div. student in this Claremont School of Theology/Claremont Lincoln University program, and I chose to be here because of the interreligious vision for education and ministry. I’m a member of The Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), and while I’m not yet clear whether I’m heading toward congregational pastoring, chaplaincy, non-profit leadership, or some combination thereof, I *am* sure that it is important — vital! — to better understand people of all different faith traditions or no faith tradition. Our classes are challenging, stimulating, and as Damian said, rigorous. We are encouraged to become stronger and more clear in our own respective faiths, even as we grow in understanding and respect for others. I’m very thankful for this program – it responds to the world of today and tomorrow.

  • Eliza Smith Brown

    Hats off to Claremont Lincoln for establishing this important model. Read about other theological schools in North America that are pursuing multifaith education initiatives in the latest issue of Colloquy at or

  • Rinat Amir, PhD

    I am glad there is a multifaith education in California, would like to be on your mailing list and get information about taking individual courses.

  • sun

    Hi Karen, many thanks for your kind words and many thanks for the opportunity to guestpost.

  • Justa Lurker

    Great stuff, and much appreciated, but it all presumes that, to quote the rabbi, “We are all heading in a god direction,” which effectively excludes atheists and secular humanists. We need to NOT all look in a god direction, but rather in a direction of Kindness and Love, and we will continue to experience division and strife in the world until religious people realize that.