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“What’s amazing to me,” says Rev. Lillian Daniel, “is the way people are still willing to sit and be quiet and thoughtful and sing together in a space that is transcendent and old and has meaning…and just listen to the human voice.” Watch more of our interview about the practice of ministry with Rev. Daniel and Rev. Martin Copenhaver, authors of This Odd and Wondrous Calling (Eerdmans, 2009).