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Chrislam

FRED DE SAM LAZARO: Nigerians may want for many of life’s basic needs. A house of worship would not seem one of them.

In the largest city, Lagos, there are traditional, old-line churches. But there also are hundreds of banners and posters that invite worshippers to newer smaller congregations. None is more unusual than this one — both Christian and Muslim.

The lectern holds both Quran and Bible. Invocations come loudly from both.

CONGREGANTS: Allahu Akbar!

Pastor Shamsuddin Saka

DE SAM LAZARO: Roughly half of Nigeria’s 140 million people are Muslim; the other half profess some form of Christianity. It’s been a political fault line over the years, and tensions have often erupted in deadly violence. Just last November, more than 300 people were killed in the town of Jos.

Pastor SHAMSUDDIN SAKA (Chrislam Minister, speaking at service): Listen to me. I want you to realize that Abraham had many children.

DE SAM LAZARO: But the 1,500 or so practitioners of what their preacher calls Chrislam see no religious fault line between the two faith groups. Shamsuddin Saka — he’s called Prophet — tells his audience they are all children of Abraham through Judeo-Christian tradition and through Islam.

Pastor SAKA: Abraham is the father of Christianity, the father of Islam. So why the Christians and Muslims are fighting?

DE SAM LAZARO: Saka was born Muslim, and it was after returning from a hajj pilgrimage to Mecca that he was inspired — he says instructed by God — to launch his new ministry

Pastor SAKA: That was about 19 years ago. Then there is a lot of people killing themselves in Nigeria 19 years ago. So I was praying and lying down and the Lord told me, “Make peace between Christian and Muslim.”

DE SAM LAZARO: He said he’s written letters to political leaders and traveled to affected areas when religious violence has broken out, urging reconciliation around common beliefs. But Saka’s most visible impact is in his immediate neighborhood, where he has brought the faiths together in a blended liturgy. It begins each Sunday morning with Quranic prayer in an open floor space that, like a mosque, has no pews. These then give way to prayer with the congregation seated in chairs — well, sometimes seated.

Dr. Ishak Akintola

DE SAM LAZARO: This prayer is intense, a trance-like frenzy similar to a Pentecostal Christian service. It climaxes by a sermon from Saka that on this day took almost two hours.

Pastor SAKA (speaking at service): Alleluia!

CONGREGANTS: Alleluia!

DE SAM LAZARO: As different as Christianity and Islam are, there is some common ground.

Dr. ISHAK AKINTOLA (Lagos State University): The Bible, you know, concentrates on teachings of love, that’s what Jesus says in Mathew chapter 5, that you love your neighbor and you even love your enemy. Now you find the Quran saying exactly the same thing.

DE SAM LAZARO: The Quran says the same thing?

Dr. AKINTOLA: Yes, yes. “Pay evil back with goodness.” If you do that, those who used to hate you before, those who are your enemies before will so become your friend. So the Bible [and] Quran say the same thing.

DE SAM LAZARO: Islam was brought here by Arab traders 10 centuries ago, Christianity by European colonization starting in the 15th century. Each has been interpreted and adapted to local needs and customs. That’s noteworthy in the way Islam is sometimes practiced here, free of the rigid dogma often associated with it.

Dr. MARA LEICHTMAN (Assistant Professor, Department of Anthropology, Michigan State University): According to Islam, the Prophet Muhammad was the final prophet but certainly not the only prophet, and they believe in Jesus and all of the other prophets of Judaism and Christianity that came before the Prophet Muhammad. So it’s nothing foreign to a Muslim to believe in Jesus, to pray to Jesus or some of the other prophets, to light a candle for the Virgin Mary, for example, as I’ve experienced Muslims do in churches in Senegal. They believe, in some cases in Africa and various African counties, in what I call “spirituality without boundaries.”

Dr. Mara Leichtman

DE SAM LAZARO: In a land where spirituality is a dominant force in people’s lives, she says economic hardships may also push people to try new ideas. Nigeria has vast oil wealth but only a few have benefited. Per capita income is about $85 a year, for example, and life expectancy a mere 45 years

Dr. LEICHTMAN: If they’re poor, if they’re suffering from HIV AIDS, if they’re trying to understand a changing political situation, finding a new religion is one way of coping with the situation, of looking for new leadership of trying to have control on their own through prayer, through different rituals of something that may not necessarily be controllable.

DE SAM LAZARO: Many who come to Chrislam are praying for what Saka calls deliverance — from illness, for example. Cawakalit Adecunji, who was born Muslim, came to Chrislam 15 years ago when she couldn’t have children.

CAWAKALIT ADECUNJI (through translator): I now have children. I came and saw that miracles are performed here. Those who didn’t have children have children. Those who are lame are walking, and the blind are seeing now.

DE SAM LAZARO: At the service, there are petitions for miracles of health and wealth — or at least improved finances

Pastor SAKA (speaking at service): Delay is not denial

DE SAM LAZARO: Delay is not denial, Saka tells his congregants, as he urges prayer and patience. Some people do come up to testify to miracles in their lives — a child conceived or a business deal. Such “deliverance” is mostly associated with some Christian churches, but Saka says it’s not foreign to Islam.

Pastor SAKA: Islam is a religion of peace, of love, of miracles. When you’re talking about miracles, Islam is a miracle itself. The founding of the Quran itself is a miracle.

“Miracles are performed here.”

DE SAM LAZARO: And congregants have taken to heart Saka’s message that to get back one must first give, but he denies that he personally benefits from these gifts. In this milieu of extreme haves and have-nots, Saka insists he always had.

Pastor SAKA: Listen to me, I’m a millionaire before my call. You know, we don’t collect much money. We collect 50, 10 naira, 20 naira. And this money — this is not my only source of income.

DE SAM LAZARO: His fortune came long before his call to ministry, he says, from a real estate business. The Hummer he drives was a gift from two followers whose petitions were answered, and he’s ready for the next automotive miracle.

Pastor SAKA: Do you like it?

DE SAM LAZARO: One miracle even the skeptics give Saka is this congregation and how people see themselves.

(to unidentified male congregant): Are you Christian or Muslim?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Whatever you call me, I am.

DE SAM LAZARO: Saka’s Chrislam is not widespread, but even the skeptics say he’s discovered the innate tolerance that’s often overshadowed by violence across religious lines in a service that’s part Muslim, part Christian — and wholly West African.

For RELIGION &ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY, this is Fred De Sam Lazaro in Lagos, Nigeria.

  • Aubrey Muhammad

    May Allah bless and keep our Brothers and Sisters how have seen pass differences and see the Oneness of Allah in Man and Woman.

    I am one with you.

    Your Brother Aubrey

  • Shawn Watson

    This Pastor Shamsuddin Saka is an enlightened human being and the harbinger of the “Enlightened Age of Humanity” also known as the second coming of the Christ Consciousness to our planet…and it’s people. He has the right spirit and thinking to heal many wounds. I believe he’s being guided directly by God. I was nearly in tears at this man’s wonderful efforts.

  • James Blatche

    is a way to contact pastor Saka directly?if so please send an e-mail address if not make mine availabe to the pastor thank you

  • Mark Fitzpatrick

    Something of interest, something exciting, something good happening in the world.

  • Anglican

    But as a Christian we have to follow Christ as The Way, The Truth, and The life…, not a way, a truth, and a life.
    Understanding, acceptance, respect are great things, but not at the loss of your soul.

  • Anglican

    How different in effect is this from Baha’i?

  • Alice C. Linsley

    SHAMSUDDIN SAKA is correct in saying that Abraham had many children. The Bible (not the Quran) tells us about 7 sons. Issac by Sarah, Ishmael by Hagar, and 5 by Keturah, his cousin-bride. He probably had daughters also.

  • Mickeya

    As an ethical person, in which I percieve myself as, I would adamantly never ever ever accecpt any gift from any one especcially if the giver was unfortunate in wealth as most in Nigeria moreover if I, myself, was, indeed, wealthy. Furthermore, if my incentive was to simply cease violence and create peace between the two religions like the Pastor Saka claims too I would again not accept the Hummer or sell it and thus give back to the people not keep it. I believe Saka ethos or credibilty was no longer valuable after reading that passage. Ethical Millionaires don’t take from the poor; they give back to the misforutunate.

  • Hajj Sa’eed

    False prophets and sects are very common among the Yorubas in Nigeria,”pastor” Saka is nothing new. Prophet Muhammad was/is the seal of prophets of God. Period. Islam and glorious Koran will stand until the Day of Requital with no addendum or omission. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion Quran 109:6

  • Abdullah

    Dr. Mara Lechtman hit the point right on when she expressed the fact that Muslims do believe and honor the Prophets, Messengers, and Saints of Christianity as expressed first and foremost in the Holy Qur’an and in the expressions of respect to the Christian shrines by lighting a candle or making an offering. The venture of Mr. Saka is praiseworthy in one important aspect that is to introduce a tolerant and accepting form of Islam to Christian, in Nigeria, and to the world in general. Muslims do know, honor, and believe in Jesus Christ – may peace and blessings be upon him and his holy mother, his virgin birth and his oft expected second coming, which is an unknown fact to Christians. Let Peace reign, and may the Lord of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed – Peace and Blessings may be upon all of them – guide his steps and forgive his and our shortcomings. Ameen.

  • William

    I give full praise to this article, and what is being done. Anglican would have us believe that Christ would not approve, that these people come together in Praise of God. We are all created by the one God, to know and praise Him. Christ taught to love our enemies and our friends, but some wish us to be divided and dislike those who are different to us. I believe these people have discovered the truth of God that he wants us united in peace and praise of him.

  • Pastor Dorcas Saunders

    Mashallah! Praise God! Finally what God has been impressing upon me to do has finally been done! I knew it was so. I am teaching Islam as well as Christianity. It feels good to have confirmation…even if it comes from God through someone across the ocean to northcarolina, america. Peace be upon Pastor Saka.

  • oway alcoba

    I am currently working here in the holy land of Muslims, Saudi Arabia, the root land of Islam. I was a Roman Catholic then back home in the Philippines turned in to a Born Again Christian here in KSA. My point is, I really admired what Chrislam’s vision in our lives. I don’t see anything good when both Christian and Islam believers kept throwing stones againts each beliefs. Why don’t we just all focus on what has God always wants us to do? To LOVE one another! I believe in Chrislam definitely!

  • N. Ameenur Rahman Ambur

    All praise to Allah! By this way christians will know what Islam is and what Al Qur’an teachs! In the same way muslims know the Bible which they revered as Ingeel!

  • Ameenur Rahman Ambur

    Praise to Almighty! Saka Shamsuddin invented a new way to bring mutual harmony between Islam and Christianity. Dr. Mara Leichtman has rightly said that for muslims Jesus is one among most revered prophets. As for as muslims if we dont believe jesus as prophet they are not muslims, and for Christians if they believe Mohammed as prophet, they will be no longer a christian. So Saka Shamsuddin opened a venue for christians to study Islam and Al Qur’an. This type of experiment had been tried in India between Islam and Hindu by King Akbar as Deen-e-Elahi, By Guru Nanak as Sikhism. Ok, coin will always show one face only.
    Intention is appreciated. Being called as prophet is not digestible. Ok, coin will show one face only.

  • Michael Johnson

    This is the most valiant undertaking, as the Bible and Quran compliment each other, and even the two apparent contradictions can be easily explained. What Jesus Christ began for the World in proclaiming the Gospel of God’s Kingdom, Muhammad completed for the world by bringing us the Quran. I wish the Ifeoluwa Mission had a website. Pastor Saka is doing good work.

  • Joseph Spurgeon

    While peace is a great undertaking Christianity and Islam are fundamentally different. Jesus is only a prophet to Islam. But Jesus is a prophet and more in Christianity. He is God. He is Allah. In Islam that is shirk or heresy. In Christianity it is heresy to deny Christ’s deity.

  • Mr Skeptical

    Yes, ‘Joseph Spurgeon comment #17′ is correct. In Islam their is 1 God and that God has no children as mentioned in ‘chapter Al-Ikhlas’ of the koran. In Christianity Jesus is part of the trinity(3 parts of god) and the son of god. Totally incompatible with Islam.

    Also, Christians believe in the original sin, that is why Catholics baptize their babies to rid them from it. The original sin doesn’t exist in Islam.

    Yes, their are similarities between the 2 religions but also significant differences. Though, this is still no reason to wage war against each other.
    cough….*crusades*….cough…*jihads*

  • Jack

    I think the previous three comments are all very astute. As a Christian, I’m not sure how I could do it; if I were a Muslim, I imagine I would have an even harder time. The Trinity is a problem, of course. It IS and it IS NOT polytheistic. Personally, I interpret the Trinity as three modes of contact with the One God. The Father is the universal and timeless mode, Jesus is the historical and personal mode, and the Holy Spirit is the mode of contact in the present time.

    Of course, that doesn’t solve everything by any means. There are surely countless other discrepancies. However, I think about how the texts and traditions of my own faith have their own contradictions. These do not dishearten me. In fact, they give me hope that there is always more to learn about God.

  • Angela

    Light and darkness cannot get along! There is right and wrong. This is not the way to serve God, by coming up with a religion to please man. We must seek truth in the Bible… There are false prophets and Religion os to fit our own needs so we do not have to be accountable to what we really have to do for God. Where does it say in the Queran and bible to unite? They are opposite and all I know is that I serve a God of wisdom and not a God of confusion..

  • Bruce

    >> all I know is that I serve a God of wisdom and not a God of confusion..

    How do you answer a Muslim who says the exact same thing? The Bible is a far more confusing, less unified text than the Koran. I am sure that Allah is also a God of wisdom and not a God of confusion for those who follow Him.

  • Richard Sprague

    Question… does the Koran really teach that all who are not Muslim are infidels and should be eliminated? If that is true it is the opposite of the Bible which says we are to love everyone and share the Gospel with them so they, too, can go to heaven with those who believe in Jesus. I do not find the Bible to be confusing and I have studied it thoroughly for over 50 years.

  • bkusha19

    Dear Anglican,

    While the Baha’i Faith teaches that the Source of Christianity and Islam, of the Baha’i Faith itself and of the other major world religions is one and the same God, called different names, the Baha’i faith is its own religion, with its own laws, writings, calendar, community, ethos, practices, theology, and worldview.

    The Baha’i Faith is not relativistic, nor is it syncretistic in origin. It does not borrow from other faiths. Baha’u’llah, the prophet-founder of the Baha’i faith made a very challenging claim, that of being a Manifestation of God on a par with Mohammad and Jesus Christ, a Manifestation of God for this Day and Age, with a Message for the next thousand years, just as, he says, each of the other Manifestations of God came with spiritual sovereignty in their own Age. He teaches thath religions are different in their secondary, historical aspects, but one (though not the same) in their primary essential.

    Baha’u’llah claimed to be the spiritual fulfillment of the messianic expectations of all the major world religions, come from God with a message for all humanity. Despite that, Baha’u’llah confirms and affirms the divine origin of both the Koran and of the Bible, the Baghavad Gita, the Sutras, the Avesta. Each of these Books has a Divine origin, though not all of their teachings (social and personal laws) are considered still applicable to this day. In fact, the reason for the reappearance of the Manifestations of God with different names and in different places every millennium or so is precisely because humanity changes and is in need of a greater revelation of God’s teachings – hence Progressive Revelation being a unique teaching of Baha’ii theology

    From this report Pastor Sakka, as much as I admire his peacekeeing efforts has not done such a thing.

    Finally the Baha’i faith is and was always a world religion with a world-embracing vision, embracing not just Christianity and Islam, its followers come from over 2100 ethnic groups and tribes, almost every country and dependent territory on Earth has indigenous Baha’i communities, and it is the 2nd most geographically widespread religion in the world after Christianity.

    Both Wikipedia and http://www.bahai.org have accurate descriptions of the Baha’i Faith’s teachings about the Oneness of Religions (not sameness), and of Baha’u’llah’s unique message tailored for today, and addressed to followers of all religions, and those of no religion.

  • bkusha19

    P.S. In answer to that particular interpretation of the Qur’anic verses (held by the vast majority of Muslim leaders today) regarding the Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) being the Seal of the Prophets, translating to “there will be no further revelation of God after Mohammad (Pbuh),” Hadrat’i Baha’u’llah quotes profusely from the Holy Book and form the Hadiths themselves to show that He is not just a(ny) Prophet, but rather the “Naba’i A’zam” The Great Announcement of the Holy Qur’an; he does the same using the Bible to show that he is the Return of Jesus Christ in the Glory of the Father; and the same with the Messianic figures of all past major world religions. He claims, and His followers hold, that all those figures are and were one and the same, in the Person of Baha’u’llah, a Title which means The Glory of God.

  • Julie

    I just glanced through this article. I am fascinated by the concept. There is a paragraph that I would like to respond to. I should add first that I believe in Jesus. Here it is : Dr. AKINTOLA: Yes, yes. “Pay evil back with goodness.” If you do that, those who used to hate you before, those who are your enemies before will so become your friend. So the Bible [and] Quran say the same thing.

    Actually, in the Bible it says that when you pray for your enemies it is like heaping hot coals on their heads. Not quite the same thing.,

  • Holly

    I am glad to see that there is more peace emerging in this nation which sometimes is and has been a volatile and violent nation in the past. I know that there has been a lot of conflict in this nation in the past. I wish that this was not so. I do have hope for them. I know that God, Allah, or whichever name that one may choose to call the One Good who cares for us all wants there to be harmony between ALL people. I know that God/Allah wants there to be peace and good will between us all. May there always be this! May God/Allah bless us all! Praise be to God/Allahu Akbar! Amen.

  • shahed

    Thousands of such false prophets are lost in oblivion. This one is no different. At the most he will add up more people to the already confused lot.

  • Alex Ashcroft

    Pastor Saka has found a nice way to take care of his retirement days. A hummer? I wonder what miracle he perfored to get a Hummer..

    In India I have seen loads of con-men like him who swindle people in exchange of so called miracles. Sri Ravi Shankar, Sai Baba etc etc all big time God men earning millions of dollars annually from their fraud businesses. Poor Nigerians. God save them from this nonsense.

  • N.Ameenur Rahman Ambur

    Ms Angela in Sep 2010 says the Bible and Al Qur’an cannot compliment each other. Ya, she is right, because Christians have no original revealed book to Jesus. They have only biographies of Jesus written by four authors that also available in translated versions. Having this they cannot claim themselves as they in Jesus teachings. They have no first hand knowledge about what Jesus teached !
    Further Ms Angela never gone thru Al Qur’an atleast to madeaq postings here. I just suggest her to go thru it with open mind. I m not advocate her any conversion. This is a site to amalgamate the two major relgions.
    May Almighty repel ignorance !

  • chika raphael christian

    western nigeria have an almost equal percentage of christianity and islam worshippers, so am not surprised to see the emergence of a hybrid religion- Chrislam, for the sake of religious peace and tolerance in that region.

  • Christine Buckley

    There is only one true gospel of Jesus Christ, not a mixed doctrine. Islam, and the Quran, do not believe Jesus is the Christ, or the son of God. Only Jesus[Yeshua] is our saviour. The bible tells us we can not serve two masters! However, we are instructed to love and pray for our enemies, and true Christians do.

  • Tam

    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never KNEW you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. ~Matthew 7:22-23.

    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye KNOW him, and have seen him. ~John 14:6-7

    Do you get it? Christianity is not about “religion”. It’s about knowing: (having a daily relationship with the true and living God) Jesus and through Him you will know God the Father.

    People we were suppose to have this from the very beginning of time (Genesis), but our choice to disobey God brought about sin. Jesus came and sacrificed His life to crush sin so that we can get the opportunity to have a relationship with God as we first did in the Garden of Eden. God loves us so much, (John 3:16). Let’s repent for our sins and get back to our Father through Jesus (Romans 8). Remember when Jesus died for our sins and rose out of the grave; He died for Mohammed and his followers as well.

  • frazho

    it doesnt matter if you dont believe the bible and that JESUS is LORD., ir will always be the TRUTH. And, the bible says, without accepting JESUS CHRIST as your personal LORD and SAVIOUR., you are FOR SURE, … HELLBOUND! count on it! JESUS CHRIST IS LORD AND SHALL REIGN FOREVER…Beat that!

  • John

    WHAT THE HECK? really? chrsitianity and islam? Christians beleive in Jesus. Muslims beleive in muhamad. I cant beleive this is happening. THE BIBLE SAYS NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME!. This is hecka screwed up these people really need to get there thoughts fixed. I think this is the first sign of the return of jesus.

  • jeffreylee griffy

    To know ones foundational belief is to know what one calls God.T…

  • McJonster

    I’m just curious to know how this Chrislam deals with the Christian perspective of Jesus being equal to God and Islam’s perspective of Jesus being below God as he is only a prophet.

    I believe key fundamental distinctions between both religions outweigh those that make them similar.

  • Pastor Sylvester

    Why are people so much worried about all these apostasies that must first take place before the end comes? What we are seeing is just the beginning of the apostasy. We must bear in mind that all these must take place so that the word of our Lord Jesus Christ can be fulfilled (Matthew 7:13-14, 21). The wide road that leads to damnation looks easier for those Christians who are looking for a way to escape persecution. Consequently religious marriage seems the easy way out, but let them remember Luke 9:62 ‘Jesus replied, “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.’
    Christianity and Islam are two differing religious beliefs. While the former preaches love, the latter is full of violence. So where is the room for cooperation? Those who believe in this marriage of convenience are from the onset none Christians, but heretics that have crept into the body of Christ.
    For the few that are defending the body of Christ, they should not look back because the scripture says Romans 10:15 ‘And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”

  • Alida de Vries

    Chrislam – the bottom of the slide.

    I agree with one of the comments…where does it say in the Bible and the Koran to unite? Allah of the Koran is different than Yahweh of the Bible.

    Oil and water do not mix.

  • Warren Eckels

    Islam has a “just war” theology derived from a Qu’ran that contradicts itself. Plenty of ink and no little blood has been spilled in figuring out just what Muhammad related and how to apply it over 1400 years. Under certain conditions (not fulfilled in Nigeria) battle is prescribed; in others it is forbidden. Perhaps most un-Qu’ranic are attacks on mosques and Muslims by fellow Muslims — Boko Haram seems to be an equal-opportunity slayer.

    Chrislam is apparently a blend of teachings taken from the Bible and Qu’ran, in particular from verses and suras that are not contradicted in the other book. It is an attempt to isolate some of the great teachings of both faiths from their historical moorings and the deep, irreconcilable mutual contradictions central to each faith.

    Christianity has no “just war” doctrine in the New Testament, this being a later addition to Christian doctrine when Christians found themselves holding secular power; Jesus did not claim such power for himself nor have it thrust upon him. Given a choice between twelve legions of angels rushing to his defense and a crucifixion, He chose the latter. The prospect of Christians forming mobs to attack Muslims, even in response to Muslim mobs attacking Christians, becomes a scandal by definition.

    Chrislam thus presents itself as a rebuke to the Christianity and Islam practiced in Lagos and Nigeria. Maybe we of the Abrahamic faiths inside and outside Nigeria should look to themselves (ourselves) before looking down on them.

  • Kathy Lutz

    Christians believe that Jesus is God’s son, as Bible teaches and Islam thinks Jesus is a messenger and prophet of God. That’s a BIG difference. Jesus Himself said “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” Sorry but unless Muslims want to admit the deity of Jesus and believe the truths of the Bible, they will be lost.

    Islam originated when Sarah contrived to have a child by arranging for Abraham to have relations with her maidservant Hagar, resulting in Ishmael. Jesus was a descendant of Abraham and Sarah (and this was part of God’s plan) via Isaac (Abraham and Sarah’s child).

    As Christian theologian Jack Van Impe says, Chrislam is the first sign that Jesus Christ will be returning soon.
    Be ready!

  • Al C.

    Beware Christians! Do not be deceived by the enemy satan. 1 Peter 5:8 “Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour”. In the final days many will come in his name this is what Jesus Christ the Lord Himself warned against, the following three Gospels say the same thing Matthew 24:3-8; Mark 13:3-8; Luke 21:7-11

    Matthew 24:3-8 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

    6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

    7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

    8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

  • Rev. Sonya

    I see no way of mixing the two faiths. I was raised under Islam however have always been Christian. The main difference is the fact that we believe that Jesus is more than a prophet, He is the Son of God, a member of the Godhead and to be worshipped as thus. Islam does not believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

  • Joeph

    This teaching and following of the Bible and Quran all sounds like a good idea , and seems to bring different groups together those who believe in Abraham and Christ , and those who believe in Mohammed , this is a good idea but is it from God? If any one teaches any thing other than what is written in the Holy Scriptures then the scriptures say let that person be accursed. Only the truth that you know can set you free. Christ says,”no man can come to the Father but through Me.” If you follow me [my teachings] then you re my disciples indeed.” Jesus is the first and the last, or the Alpha and the Omega, not second to last, I believe the question comes down to the same question that Jesus ask his disciples, “who do you say that I am? Peter answered, him, “you are the Christ [ the Anointed One” “THE CHRIST.” . A LITTLE LEAVEN , LEAVENS THE WHOLE LUMP. Mohammed is not equal to Christ, Christ has no equal., no man or angel. it is His way or the by way. To follow Christ, we must forsake all other way, if not, what Jesus said is a joke, and He cant be trusted, But He is Lord, He is faithful and true.

  • Jose R. Arce

    How tragic it is after reading all of those comments trying to prove that Jesus and Mohamed fall on that same category of holy prophets of God. I don’t think that this people had red the Bible with a clear understanding. The Bible clearly declare that Jesus is: 1. The way, the truth and that life, John 14:6. 2. Not only that but He is the only way to salvation. For God so love the world that He gave his only begotten son that whosoever believe in him thou shall not perish but have everlasting life. So God did not sent His Son to condemned the world but for the world to be safe by Him. The One who believes in Him is not condemned, but the one who does not believe in Him has already been condemned because he has not believe in the names of His only Son of God. The one who believes the Son has eternal life, but the one who does not believe in the Son will not see life, but that wrath of God remains upon him (John 3:16-18; 36. In acts 4:12 Peter inspired by the Holy Spirit said something that reaffirmed what John says in those verses that I just mentioned. And deliverance is not in any other, for there is no other name under heaven which was given to mankind for which is necessary to be saved. What connection there is between light and darkness, “None”. Thats how crislam is. Water and oil don’t mix. Christianity and Islam will never mix among the true believers in the purity of that teachings of Jesus. Paul puts it this way: For the message of the cross on the one hands foolishness to the lost, but on to the other hand to those among us who are saved it is power of God (1Corinthians 1:18). Putting Christianity on the same pedestal as Islam it is to ignore the teachings of Paul on Galatians 1:6-8, 2Juan verso 10). Crislam is a different gospel than the one we get from the scriptures. The gospel of Jesus is a gospel of hope, and of love and of forgiveness, and eternal life, and of light, and of salvation and of repentance, and of sanctification and of truth, and of transformation. The gospel of Jesus is everything. Dont leave home without it.

  • Ricky Huntley

    Praise be to God almighty! Praise be to Allah! For they are one in the same. The constant fighting between the two religions through the centuries must come to a stop before we destroy one another. Rather than sending soldiers during the crusades, why couldn’t the pope send diplomats to speak with Muslim leaders so that we may share the Holy Land together? Because of ignorance and hatred, very un-Christian of them. We must make amends, Christians, Muslims, and Jews alike. We should unite under the one true God and bring peace to the world. May God (Allah) bless you all.

  • ozzythaman

    im muslim consider that the prophets come for a purpose,

    if Mohammed (sav) came in year 600, apparently God waited 600 years to give him his mission.

    If christians, christianity fulfilled or established the rule of God and his rules among the men during those 600 years, there would be no need for islam.

    There is no different message essentially in islam.

    christians failed, and still fail in establishing the rule of removing all banking and interest rates from society and it is the year 2013.

    So you complain about islam coming and wanting to remove interest rates.

    christianity, christians (not Jesus) failed in establisihing the rule of the teachings of Jesus. This is understandable though, there are many greedy people in this world, and still they work to hoard power and money.

    If you notice islam also says feed and dress the poor and orphans and needy. Give your excess to others etc etc to bring social justice.

    AND REMOVE BANKING BECAUSE IT CAUSES SOCIAL IN-JUSTICE.

    still in islam there are those who hoard money, you know who they are.

    they pose as representatives of islam to those uneducated about islam
    just as there are christian clerics who pose as representatives of christianity. see?

    for the rule of God and access can be established without special places and other people or clerics.

    the age of clerics is over. This is the important part.

    No do and establish the rule of God, whether or not you are muslim or christian does not matter if you do not do what the teachings tells you.

    1. remove interest rates.and making money off of money.

    good luck.

  • ozzythaman

    2 year late reply:

    if christian rule had been established in 600 years there would be no need for islam.

    islam is the 3rd attempt in establishing the rule of God, this time in a way where a little force is acceptable. (they killed Jesus, right? and you had 600 years)

    dont confuse the true struggle for God’s rules with guys blowing up christians because they are not muslims. that is distraction.

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