Female Circumcision


FRED DE SAM LAZARO, correspondent: In recent years, thousands of rural communities in Senegal have held extraordinary public rallies they call “declarations,” and they’ve declared an end to a deeply rooted practice, one rarely discussed in public, one commonly known as female circumcision.

MOLLY MELCHING: Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined that I would be sitting here years later, saying that 4,792 communities in Senegal had abandoned. In the beginning it was just unthought of, unbelievable, because it was so taboo.

DE SAM LAZARO: Molly Melching founded a group called Tostan—“breakthrough” in the local Wolof language—in the early ’90s. She had modest goals: to educate people about health and human rights, especially in rural areas and in local languages. The Illinois native is fluent in the ways of Senegal but she keeps a low profile in the work of Tostan.

Tostan’s work often begins with an ice-breaker, like an old movie. Many in the audience have never watched a film. To overcome the language barrier, the selection is a Buster Keaton silent movie classic from 1923, and it’s a hit. A more serious film followed, on vegetable gardening. It’s all part of seminars on nutrition, health, basic human rights, and other issues—in groups, songs, dances, and drama.

post01-femalecircumcisionSkit: She needs to be cut. All girls need that.

DE SAM LAZARO: It’s proven to be one of the most promising attempts in history to wipe out what Melching calls female genital cutting [FGC], a practice that dates back 2000 years. Each year, the World Health Organization says up to 3 million girls in Africa are subjected to genital mutilation, and up to 140 million women live with its consequences.

Skit: You can’t have a recognized marriage if she is not cut.

DE SAM LAZARO: That cut is a painful rite of passage for girls across a wide swath of predominantly Islamic African and Middle Eastern countries. However, the practice goes back hundreds of years before Islam or Christianity and is also practiced in both faiths and religions native to this region. It’s thought to have originated in the harems of ancient rulers as a means of controlling women’s fidelity, or as a sign of chastity among those who aspired to be consorts.

MELCHING: Those who were in the rest of society could move up, and you could marry someone who was more prestigious or had more money, more status, if you underwent this practice, because it was a sign of good reputation, and as the years went on, I mean 2,200 years, it became very much a part of what was considered criteria for good marriage.

DE SAM LAZARO: Melching came to this West African nation as a student in the 1970s and later as a Peace Corps volunteer. She stayed on to work on improving health education, which she found sorely lacking.

post02-femalecircumcisionMELCHING: When you see a friend that you’ve known for several months and you’ve gone to her house for lunch, and then she tells you her child has some problem, that it’s someone who has cast an evil spell on the child, the baby, and that she’s going to take them to a religious leader to get the spell taken off, and you don’t know what to say, and it turns out the baby was dehydrated.

DE SAM LAZARO: But from the health education, women began to understand infection, and Melching says they began to connect the dots.

MELCHING: So suddenly as they started learning germ transmission and the consequences of FGC and how these infections occur and why they had more problems in childbirth than other women who had not been cut, they started saying wait a minute.

Seminar: People used to be afraid to talk about this before. Not anymore.

DE SAM LAZARO: But how did women in conservative, patriarchal societies become able to speak out, especially on a sensitive sexual topic? Melching says it’s because Tostan involves men and religious leaders who’ve confirmed that cutting is not required.

MELCHING: We share our modules with the religious leaders so that they see that everything that we do is for the well-being of the community, the health, and all these things are things that Islam espouses, and so they’re very happy in general, but first of all they’re happy because we start with them. We respect them.

post03-femalecircumcisionDE SAM LAZARO: And that respect also carries over in the group’s message on genital cutting.

MELCHING: Tostan found that using approaches that shame or blame people really was just the opposite of what would work in changing social norms. When you say to someone, we know you love your daughter and you’re doing things because you love your daughter, but let’s look at this and let’s try to understand together exactly what are the consequences of this practice. But you are the ones who will have to make the decision. Then suddenly people are willing to listen. They don’t get defensive.

DE SAM LAZARO: It’s far more effective than the approach of many aid groups—religious, government, and private, says Princeton University professor Gerry Mackie.

PROFESSOR GERRY MACKIE: Not hectoring and preaching but having pro and con discussions. When we think of an ideal way of making a change, we’d say it’s democratic. We all get together and talk it over and decide what the best thing is to do. Whereas some development approaches would, say, force them to do it, pay them to do it, trick them into doing it.

DE SAM LAZARO: Tostan’s volunteers and staff who conduct its seminars all hail from the local communities. Often they are leaders and elders speaking from personal experience or anecdotes. Diarre Ba used to make a living as a female circumciser.

post04-femalecircumcisionDIARRE BA: I was part of this process. I felt bad. This is not right. But I didn’t know anything at the time. I had no learning.

DE SAM LAZARO: Others have painful, vivid memories. Ibrahim Sankare was very close to an older sister growing up. He walked into her room one evening.

IBRAHIM SANKARE: I saw her lying in a pool of blood. I thought someone had really hurt her. I screamed. My father explained to me. Since then, even now I get goosebumps thinking about it.

MARIAM BAMBA: It was very painful. I will never—you ask me if I can forget it? I will never forget the pain. So painful.

DE SAM LAZARO: Marieme Bamba is a long-time campaigner against genital cutting, and she’s spared her ten-year-old daughter the trauma. Yet before she became involved with Tostan and early in her marriage, she was determined to keep up the tradition. Even her own husband was opposed to genital cutting.

SULEYMAN TRAORE: She insisted that she had to do it. There were so many problems if you didn’t do it. If you cooked meals, no one would eat your food. It’s because we didn’t know. People told us that it was our religion. If you don’t do it, you’ll be going against your religion. All this is false. But I alone can’t do this in the village.

post05-femalecircumcisionDE SAM LAZARO: They say Tostan was able to insure they were not alone—that communities in which they intermarried were also thinking alike, that their daughters would still be marriageable. The large declaration ceremonies have been critical.

MACKIE: One part of bringing about a change like this is to get everyone to change at once, what we call “coordinated abandonment.” Everyone has to see that everyone else sees that everyone is changing.

DE SAM LAZARO: Genital cutting is not the only tradition they want to change. Many communities have vowed to end the frequent practice of allowing older men to marry adolescent girls, acknowledging both the health risks and the girls’ human rights. Molly Melching says there’s plenty of historical precedent for abrupt changes in social norms and attitudes. She sees a very current example every time she comes home. That’s in American views about smoking.

MELCHING: People were smoking, and nobody said anything about it much through the ‘50s, the ‘60s, and even the ‘70s. As people became more and more aware of the harm that it causes, more and more people—there was a critical mass of people who started really protesting. It was amazing for me, coming from Senegal to the United States, to see how quickly things turned around.

DE SAM LAZARO: Tostan’s efforts have now expanded to 14 other African nations.

For Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly, this is Fred de Sam Lazaro in Kaolack, Senegal.

  • JDE

    While grassroots organizations attempt to effect change gradually, thousands of girls each year are tortured and mutilated, and have their lives ruined.

    There’s a very easy way to change public opinion about female genital mutilation – make it a global capital crime, with execution to be carried out by the World Court, and with no possibility of appeal. Then, shut off all foreign aid to countries that refuse to agree to it.

    After one or two public executions, it will stop.

  • Ed

    There are a few differences to watch out for between the video as recorded and the transcript presented on this page. Note in particular that in the transcript phrase “a practice that dates back more than 200 years,” the number “200” should be 2000.

  • BBD

    There is only Love or Fear. You cannot change social norms by passing laws.

    As Molly says: “Tostan found that using approaches that shame or blame people really was just the opposite of what would work in changing social norms. When you say to someone, we know you love your daughter, and you’re doing things because you love your daughter, but let’s look at this and let’s try to understand together exactly what are the consequences of this practice? But you are the ones who will have to make the decision, then suddenly people are willing to listen. They don’t get defensive.”

  • Julia Orchid

    It’s inspiring to see the change that’s happening in West Africa here on PBS! Thank you for airing this important programme.

    I was lucky enough to spend some time with communities in Senegal and The Gambia earlier this year. As a passionate advocate to end female genital cutting, coming across the work of Tostan was refreshing. Not only is it intellectually rigorous and but is very respectful to communities. It also understands FGC’s place in a spectrum of social norms and hence, the work to end it is highly successful. To date, 6,236 communities in seven countries have declared an end to FGC.

    For me, sitting with communities in remote villages and hearing women get up and speak, often for the first time was inspiring and remarkable. Their empowerment was evident and visible and their pride in their achievement shone through – they had made changes that included but were not limited to ending FGC. The men in the communities seemed equally as proud of the changes they had made.

    I’m looking forward to continuing to work with Tostan to help end female genital cutting – hopefully within our lifetime.

  • JMM

    In response to JDE:

    Capital punishment in public to end female circumcision is a paradox if I’ve ever heard one…

  • MMS

    An essential element of the Tostan curriculum is to develop an understanding of the human right to be free from all forms of violence. Understanding this right has empowered thousands of communities to publicly declare their abandonment of female genital cutting. The suggestion of violence as a response or solution to FGC conflicts with both this proven model and a valuable human freedom.

  • JDE

    @JMM: “Capital punishment in public to end female circumcision is a paradox if I’ve ever heard one…”

    Buy a dictionary.

  • JDE

    I said it a year ago, and I’ll say it again – make it a capital crime, punishable by the World Court. Someone mutilates a girl; put her to death. It will stop quickly enough.

  • Jennifer Dobinson

    The change that is starting to happen in Africa is amazing! I understand that its an Islamic tradition for females to be circumcised, my question is why is it then just happening in Africa. Islamic religion extends past Africa and yet you do not see this in other countries. Times have changed that to see woman publicly speaking on an issue that hits close to home is great. A woman should have a say in what happens within her own body. Plus not only is there a movement to stop this violent act, the education that is also brought with this is truly amazing. Education is better than protesting without having the education to support the affirmation of wanting to stop a religious tradition.