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		<title>September 21, 2007: U.S. Episcopal Bishops&#8217; Meeting in New Orleans</title>
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<p><strong>BOB ABERNETHY</strong>, anchor: Another deadline looms for the U.S. Episcopal Church. Episcopal bishops are meeting in New Orleans until Tuesday (September 25), and a key item on their agenda is an ultimatum on gay issues from leaders of the worldwide Anglican Communion. The Episcopal Church is the U.S. branch of the 70-million-member Communion. The spiritual leader of the Communion, the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, joined the bishops for part of their meeting. Kim Lawton is in New Orleans and has our report.</p>
<p><a href="http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/08/ehobsp1.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-4021" title="ehobsp1" src="http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/08/ehobsp1.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a><strong>KIM LAWTON</strong>: The Episcopal bishops and Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams emerged from their closed door meetings Thursday (September 20) for a public ecumenical prayer service. Despite the deep divisions facing their church, there was a moment of unity as the bishops presented contributions of nearly $1 million to help rebuild the Gulf Coast.</p>
<p>Archbishop Williams saw the work of the Episcopal Church firsthand in New Orleans&#8217; devastated Lower Ninth Ward.</p>
<p>(to Archbishop Rowan Williams): I&#8217;m just wondering what you thought about what you saw and heard here today?</p>
<p>Archbishop <strong>ROWAN WILLIAMS</strong>: It&#8217;s fantastic. It&#8217;s a real sign of commitment and hope, I think. It&#8217;s a wonderful thing to see.</p>
<p><strong>LAWTON</strong>: But the main reason for the Archbishop&#8217;s visit was to discuss the issues that could tear the Anglican Communion apart. He spent a day and a half in frank conversations with the American bishops.</p>
<p>Archbishop <strong>WILLIAMS</strong> (during press conference): I think it would rather be an admission of defeat if we said that we were not capable of working together on the issues that divide us. Whether we&#8217;ll get to that point I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p><strong>LAWTON</strong>: This is a regularly scheduled business meeting for the bishops, but it comes on the eve of a crucial deadline, and what happens here could affect the Episcopal Church&#8217;s future status in the Anglican Communion. In February, the top leaders of the Communion&#8217;s regional churches gave U.S. Episcopalians until September 30th to clearly state that they will not consecrate any more gay bishops or authorize any more same-sex blessings. Failure to do so, the leaders said, would have unspecified consequences for the Episcopal Church&#8217;s place in the global church body. Some are speculating that the U.S. church could be asked to leave this historic branch of Christianity.</p>
<p>Episcopal Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori isn&#8217;t expecting such radical responses.</p>
<p><a href="http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/08/ehobsp4.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-4018" title="ehobsp4" src="http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/08/ehobsp4.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a>Bishop <strong>KATHARINE JEFFERTS SCHORI</strong> (Presiding Bishop, U.S. Episcopal Church): We are eager to continue and grow our relationships around the Communion, and I think most people believe those relationships will not change significantly.</p>
<p><strong>LAWTON</strong>: But relationships have been severely strained since 2003, when the Episcopal Church consecrated an openly gay bishop, Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, and paved the way for the blessing of same-sex unions. That set off a firestorm of controversy in the U.S. and within more conservative Anglican churches in Africa, Asia and South America &#8212; the so-called Global South.</p>
<p>Bishop <strong>JOHN GUERNSEY</strong> (Anglican Church of Uganda): When the church really, in our view, departed from biblical authority and the historic teaching of the church it was no longer a matter of simply staying together as if nothing had happened.</p>
<p><strong>LAWTON</strong>: John Guernsey is rector of All Saints Church in Woodbridge, Virginia, and he&#8217;s also a new bishop for the Anglican Church of Uganda. Guernsey&#8217;s parishioners decided to leave the Episcopal Church last year, but they still wanted to be part of the Anglican Communion. So they put themselves under the authority of the Church of Uganda, which shares their traditional views.</p>
<p>Earlier this month in Uganda, Guernsey was consecrated as an Anglican bishop. But he&#8217;ll be working in the U.S., overseeing 33 congregations that have affiliated with the Church of Uganda. None of the congregations is ethnically Ugandan.</p>
<p>In August, two American priests were also made bishops for the Anglican Church of Kenya. Still others are now bishops for the Church of Nigeria, all overseeing congregations in the U.S. It&#8217;s a point of deep contention across the Communion. At the Tanzania meeting, the Anglican leaders urged overseas bishops to stop intervening in U.S. dioceses.</p>
<p>But Guernsey says the Global South wanted to find a way to support disaffected American conservatives.</p>
<p><a href="http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/08/ehobsp7.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-4019" title="ehobsp7" src="http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/08/ehobsp7.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a>Bishop <strong>GUERNSEY</strong>: The Global South has felt that they were not going to abandon those who have taken a faithful stand here in the U.S.</p>
<p><strong>LAWTON</strong>: Episcopal leaders accuse the Global South churches of wrongful meddling.</p>
<p>Bishop <strong>JOHN CHANE</strong> (Diocese of Washington, D.C.): They need to understand how painful that is in the life of my province, my church, the Episcopal Church, and how much it undermines the very concept of what it means to be an Anglican or to be a part of the Anglican Communion.</p>
<p>Bishop <strong>JEFFERTS SCHORI</strong>: We elect our own bishops, we do not appoint them, and that they are elected and consecrated for work in a particular diocese by the members of that diocese.</p>
<p><strong>LAWTON</strong>: One overarching concern is church authority. Each of the 38 regional Anglican bodies is self-governing. Neither the Archbishop of Canterbury nor any other Anglican leader is supposed to tell another province what to do.</p>
<p>Bishop <strong>CHANE</strong>: For me, as one bishop, the issue is who&#8217;s going to control the Communion, who&#8217;s in charge, who has the power, which is an unusual place to be in, given the loose confederation of churches and provinces that make up the Anglican Communion.</p>
<p><strong>LAWTON</strong>: Decisions for the Episcopal Church are made by a convention of clergy and lay delegates that meets every three years. Episcopal bishops say they don&#8217;t have the authority to respond to the demands made in the Tanzania ultimatum. The last General Convention in 2006 passed a nonbinding resolution calling on Episcopalians to &#8220;exercise restraint by not consecrating&#8221; future gay bishops for a time. But that wasn&#8217;t strong enough for many conservatives in the U.S. and around the world. And, indeed, Tracey Lind, an openly lesbian priest, is one of five candidates on the ballot to become the next bishop of Chicago.</p>
<p>Bishop <strong>JEFFERTS SCHORI</strong>: The Diocese of Chicago has every right to nominate anyone who is qualified in the church, and we do understand that gay and lesbian priests in relationships are qualified at this point.</p>
<p><a href="http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/08/ehobsp10.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-4022" title="ehobsp10" src="http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/08/ehobsp10.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a><strong>LAWTON</strong>: Individuals, and some entire congregations, have been leaving the Episcopal Church, but exact numbers are hard to pin down. Conservatives represent a minority in the U.S. but a majority around the world. Some of the departing congregations are in the middle of contentious lawsuits over whether they can keep their church buildings. The Episcopal Church says the property belongs to the diocese, not the parishioners. Many churches find themselves caught in the middle &#8212; unwilling to leave the Episcopal Church, but frustrated by the lack of a satisfactory resolution.</p>
<p>Bishop <strong>CHARLES JENKINS</strong> (Diocese of Louisiana): I&#8217;m tired of the disagreements. I would like to have the disagreements settled. What I&#8217;m not willing to do is to settle the disagreements at the price of the mission of the church. I hope that we will find the space, the time, and the freedom to search for more long-lasting and I think creative solutions than we&#8217;re able to do in the anxious system in which we live in now.</p>
<p><strong>LAWTON</strong>: The Presiding Bishop says she&#8217;s optimistic that progress will come out of this New Orleans meeting.</p>
<p>Bishop <strong>JEFFERTS SCHORI</strong>: Greater understanding, both within this church and across the Communion. A greater sense that we are one in our diversity and that we can continue to be one.</p>
<p><strong>LAWTON</strong>: Others aren&#8217;t so sure.</p>
<p>Bishop <strong>GUERNSEY</strong>: If what&#8217;s being sought is some kind of artificial fabricated institutional unity to paper over foundational differences over who Jesus is and what he has done and what his work on the cross means for us, then I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any future in that.</p>
<p><strong>LAWTON</strong>: After the meeting here in New Orleans, conservative bishops will hold their own meeting to craft their response. I&#8217;m Kim Lawton in New Orleans.</p>
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		<title>September 21, 2007: INTERVIEW Bishop Charles Jenkins</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Read more of Kim Lawton&#8217;s interview with the Rev. Charles Jenkins, Episcopal Bishop of Louisiana:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Q: How key is this moment for the US Episcopal Church?</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/08/episcopal-bishop-of-louisia.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-4024" title="episcopal-bishop-of-louisia" src="http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/08/episcopal-bishop-of-louisia.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a>A: Well, I think it&#8217;s obviously a critical moment. It is an important moment. I don&#8217;t think there should be a live or die moment, however, for the Episcopal Church in the United States. There certainly are many who want to paint it that way, but I&#8217;m not certain I agree with that depiction.</p>
<p><strong>Q: Why not? </strong></p>
<p>A: Well, because I think that here in Louisiana, for example, we have demonstrated that the church can still be powerful in her faith, powerful in the witness, powerful in mission, powerful in changing lives and, I think, standing for the dignity of every human being, even in the midst of our disagreements. I&#8217;m tired of the disagreements. I would like to have the disagreements settled. What I&#8217;m not willing to do is to settle the disagreements at the price of the mission of the church, because the persons that [are] really hurt in that kind of example, or that kind of a situation, are the poor, and we can&#8217;t seek comfort for ourselves at the [expense] of the poor.</p>
<p><strong>Q: How much pressure is the U.S. Church feeling from the rest of the world? </strong></p>
<p>A: I think the larger question is what is the capacity of the United States Church or the Episcopal Church to absorb pressure from others? And some people feel a great deal more pressure than others. I think that if [there is] anything I&#8217;ve learned from the last several years of life here in New Orleans it&#8217;s been that we have an incredible capacity for others&#8217; anxiety.</p>
<p><strong>Q: What are you hoping to hear from the Archbishop of Canterbury? What does he need to do or say?</strong></p>
<p>A: Well, as bishop of Louisiana I certainly want him, and I&#8217;ve made arrangements for him, to come speak to the city of New Orleans and to talk about redemptive suffering, to talk about the work that we&#8217;re doing to encourage us and to thank us, and that is very important to me as bishop of this city. I want the archbishop to acknowledge the good work that the Episcopal Church does throughout the world, to acknowledge the importance of mission, and I want the Archbishop of Canterbury to call us all to sacrifice. One of the odd questions that has been posed has been really half a question, and that is upon whose back will this settlement go forward? And there&#8217;s violence on both sides of this issue. If the Episcopal bishops make a response too far one way, then we see hand grenades thrown through the door, let&#8217;s say, of a Christian assembly in Pakistan. And on the other hand we all know of young men who are beaten and brutalized and tied to a fence and left to die in the American West. I think equal sacrifices [are] what I would have the archbishop call us to, and show us that in so doing as Christians we all win. We all do good, we&#8217;re all sanctified and made holy in doing that. I hope that we will find the space, the time, and the freedom to search for more long-lasting and I think creative solutions than we&#8217;re able to do in the anxious system in which we live in now.</p>
<p><strong>Q: Some people feel there&#8217;s been too much time spent already. Conservatives, people aligning with churches in Africa say it&#8217;s taken too long and they are leaving. Others say the rest of the world is pushing the U.S. Church around and they are tired of that. How many people feel caught in the middle?</strong></p>
<p>A: I don&#8217;t know how many people are feeling in the middle. I can tell you that I think we need to look at our codependent reactivity. Just because we&#8217;re tired doesn&#8217;t mean that we give up doing the right thing, or because somebody else is pressuring us that we stop doing the right thing. Nor do I think that necessarily we are compromised by taking a mature look at the situation that confronts us.</p>
<p><strong>Q: Is it still possible to hold everything together?</strong></p>
<p>A: It is absolutely still possible to hold everything together. I take great comfort in the high priestly prayer of our Lord Jesus Christ in Saint John&#8217;s Gospel &#8212; that we all may be one as he and the father are one. I think that it&#8217;s going to take a bit of creativity, out-of-the-box thinking, and the question is not how little can we do, or simply what can we not do because of our polity of the American church and the canons of the American church, but how much are we willing to do?</p>
<p><strong>Q: Could there be a major realignment? When you talk about creativity, could there still be something that no one has really envisioned before? </strong></p>
<p>A: Yes, indeed. But I don&#8217;t know that that would necessarily be a realignment. We certainly envision that time and time again, but I&#8217;m hoping and praying for something new and creative. One of the issues that has not been dealt with adequately by brains greater than mine is the impact of globalization, the huge shifts of people around the world and instant communication and urbanization and dwindling resources and the green issues around the environment. What does that have to do with this little conflict that we&#8217;re feeling in the Anglican community? I think there&#8217;s something there.</p>
<p><strong>Q: What do you have to say to those Americans becoming bishops within the various African communions? </strong></p>
<p>A: Well, my observation is the more bishops we have, the smaller the church gets.</p>
<p><strong>Q: So what message would you have for Episcopalians and Anglicans as they watch all of this unfold? What would you like them to hear coming out of the meetings?</strong></p>
<p>A: Take heart. It is God&#8217;s church. We are God&#8217;s hands and feet, and I believe if we continue with mission, God will guide us through this, and not just simply help us get through but get through wonderfully and gloriously. So take heart and be strong and trust in the Lord.</p>
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