JED DUVALL: In Richmond, Virginia, the fight has been over whether churches can continue feeding the crowds of poor who arrive at their doorsteps. You could send the police, you could even send tanks; still you wouldn't keep Pastor Darrell Rollins from his mission.Dr. DARRELL ROLLINS (31st Street Baptist Church): We called the police and we are in violation, proudly so, come get us.
DUVALL: The city of Richmond threw down the gauntlet when it passed an ordinance saying no more than 30 people could be fed at one time.
Dr. ROLLINS: The First Amendment guarantees us the right to practice our ministry, our religion, and our religion is to feed the hungry.DUVALL: In Los Angeles, the battle is between the city and a group of Orthodox Jews. Rabbi Chaim Rubin's small congregation used to pray in his father's home until his father became ill. So the rabbi bought a nearby house to use as a place of worship instead. The fight went to the city council when neighbors objected, claiming a violation of zoning law.
Unidentified Man #1: I would remind all of you that the United States Supreme Court is clearly on the side of the homeowners' association.
Rabbi CHAIM RUBIN (Congregation Etz Chaim): I cannot in good conscience, I cannot from a religious belief, close this shul down. Please use the influence of this city council to allow -- allow us to continue.Unidentified Man #3: Okay, prepare the roll on the motion.
Unidentified Woman #1: Fourteen ayes.
Man #3: And that is approved. The appeal has been denied.
Rabbi RUBIN: They are hiding behind a zoning law to essentially keep out the community that wants to live and practice their religious dictates from an area.
DUVALL: Orthodox Jewish practice requires the faithful to walk on the Sabbath, never to drive, and many in the congregation cannot walk far, says Rabbi Rubin's wife, Raizel.
RAIZEL RUBIN (Congregation Etz Chaim): What we really are struggling with here is a confrontation between civil law, the zoning laws of the city of Los Angeles, and religious law, which requires certain things of an Orthodox Jew. And right now as it stands, the two are not compatible, and the question is, who needs to accommodate whom?

Mr. OLIVER THOMAS (General Counsel, National Council of Churches): RFRA put the burden where it ought to be, on the government that wants to restrict religion. We ought to start from the baseline that we're free to be as religious or nonreligious as we want to be as American citizens.
MARCI HAMILTON (Cardozo Law School): As a matter of fact, a matter of empirical fact, religion and churches and synagogues are part of communities; and the question is whether or not they can find ways to serve their needs and the people's needs in concert with the community.
Rabbi RUBIN: I think that we qualify to be here even without RFRA. But of course, if RFRA had been upheld, it would've been a lot easier.