SCOTT FLIPSE (Senior Policy Analyst, United States Commission on International Religious Freedom): Thank you.
ABERNETHY: Tell us about the power of Buddhist monks in Myanmar and what they accomplished with their march.
Dr. FLIPSE: Buddhist monks are powerful in Burma because of their moral authority. There's possibly up to half a million Buddhist monks and novices, and I think going out into the streets signifies to the people of Burma that the monks no longer believe the government has Buddhist bona fides.
ABERNETHY: Buddhist values?
Dr. FLIPSE: Buddhist values, right.
ABERNETHY: Such as?
Dr. FLIPSE: Such as minimizing sorrow, maximizing happiness, supporting the poor, and promoting Buddhist values such as generosity and compassion.
ABERNETHY: Does that mean that the Buddhist monks' demonstration was for those values more than it was for democracy?
Dr. FLIPSE: Well, I mean if you looked at the signs that they were demonstrating [with] it said, "Love and Kindness" and not about democracy. But democracy is the form which I think most of the younger monks believe will bring about Buddhist values and reconciliation.
ABERNETHY: We saw some photographs of Buddhist monks holding their rice bowls upside down. What's the significance there?
Dr. FLIPSE: It's called turning over the rice bowl, which is a Buddhist form of excommunication. They are playing spiritual hardball saying that the military cannot be Buddhist, cannot give alms, cannot practice generosity.



Dr. FLIPSE: Yeah, there's a merit aspect to alms-giving as well. So I guess they're telling the military that they don't believe that they are good Buddhists.
Dr. FLIPSE: I think it's a start of a revolution of the spirit, which may have political implications later on.
