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PERSPECTIVES:
Michael Novak: TELL ME WHY
September 25, 1998    Episode no. 204
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BOB ABERNETHY: Now, Perspectives on a provocative and moving new book: TELL ME WHY: A FATHER ANSWERS HIS DAUGHTER'S QUESTIONS ABOUT GOD.

Photo of Novaks on beach Michael Novak is a Catholic theologian, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, and winner of the million-dollar Templeton Prize in 1994 for progress in religion. He's an author and lecturer. His daughter Jana is a speechwriter for Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, a woman who, like many of her generation, is interested in God, but put off by much of the institutional Church. So she sent her theologian father a fax full of questions about religion. He answered, she commented, and the result is their new book. We talked to them at the Novaks' beach house in Delaware.

Ms. JANA NOVAK: I left the Church when I was very young. In fact, one of my earliest religious memories is in fourth grade, I think it was, creating my own religion with a friend because I did not -- I found Catholicism, since that's what I was raised in, to be very distant, very withdrawn. I didn't find it in any way to be personal or anything that I could relate to. It just seemed very cold. So I went through a process of basically going completely atheist for a while.

Mr. MICHAEL NOVAK: I didn't realize that she was as estranged from the Church as she was.

Ms. NOVAK: I was very good at covering up.

Photo of MICHAEL NOVAK Mr. NOVAK: I really didn't -- I mean, I should have been more attentive and picked up the little signals. And I think there's a normal resistance that most children have, but it was much more profound than I grasped.

What did you learn most from this? I mean, what about the way we should go about it and ...

Photo of Novaks and fax machine Ms. NOVAK: I had basic questions I wanted answered. I didn't want to have to really search that hard for them. You know, I wasn't willing to put the effort into the search until I kind of answered the first couple of stumbling blocks. So that's where we came up with the idea of the fax. We had a lot more to talk about than just sports or politics, which we both love to discuss, but suddenly we had an entirely new subject area. And so -- one that was especially important to him -- so that was rather fun for me because obviously, this was the subject that has encompassed his entire life.

Mr. NOVAK: To have her engage me in a serious way over a year, back and forth, was really wonderful. It's the greatest gift I've had in many, many years.

ABERNETHY: Jana, Michael, welcome. Welcome here. Some of us asking your questions, Jana, might have begun, I think, with God. You began with religion, with the institution, the Church. Why?

Photo of Jana Novak Ms. NOVAK: I think for my generation, God is something we accept. We're very spiritual; I don't think, though, in any organized way. So for us, we have many more questions about religion. We don't understand why we can't just have a personal relationship with God, why it's necessary to have an organization.

Mr. NOVAK: I liked her line to me once that -- that so many of the parents of her friends and classmates were not religious who grew up in the '60s. And so the kids, in order to -- when they wanted to really tick the parents off, go to church. It's sort of -- of the reverse of 30 years ago.

ABERNETHY: Well, Michael, what did you say? Why can't -- what did you say to Jana? Why can't someone just worship God privately? Why do we need a church?

Mr. NOVAK: Well, it's a kind of long answer. But if you're -- who's going to preach about God if not -- where are you going to get the books? Where are you going to get the tradition of studying? I was very touched when we buried my father-in-law, my father, mother. That there was a poetry, a ritual, when we baptized Jana and her sister and brother. So it's lovely to be part of this tradition.

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ABERNETHY: Is that convincing to you, Jana?

Ms. NOVAK: Well, actually, it explained to me the purpose of why religion was necessary, because originally my feeling about religion was that it was kind of the beefy bodyguard outside the club. That it was like, "You can't come in to see God unless you come through us." And who are you, and whether you're important enough. And so I found it very cold and distant.

Actually, probably the thing that convinced me the most was what -- how the religion is a very human institution, so it's going to be very flawed. I think that a lot of people my age and older have problems with the individual hypocrites and prejudiced people that you meet within religions. And that's kind of given a bad name.

Photo of discussion ABERNETHY: What did your dad say to you in the book that was the most helpful to you?

Ms. NOVAK: Probably the idea of God being love and really being there for you, and that it really matters because of that because it's kind of a security and a reassurance. Which is wonderful, I think.

ABERNETHY: Michael, you're a trained -- you're a trained theologian. Answering a daughter's very serious questions was something that might have been easier for you than for most of us.

Mr. NOVAK: You know, in a way ...

ABERNETHY: Any advice for the rest of us?

Photo of MICHAEL NOVAK Mr. NOVAK: ... in a way harder because it's easier to speak to my peers and to argue and criticize and combat. But you know, with your daughter, you can't miss a note. I mean, she's got a truth detector that's unbelievable. And -- and you're either speaking common sense or you're not. I find it much more difficult and much harder. But look, you just have to trust your instincts, Bob. And I just hope that by going through some of these questions, other people will say, gee, we always thought that, too.

Ms. NOVAK: And there's no reason they can't be on the path at the same time as their children. Parents can go along at the same time and share the journey. They don't have to know more than their kids, necessarily.

ABERNETHY: Did any of Jana's questions or her insights change you in any way?

Mr. NOVAK: Yeah, well, all of them because they all forced me to think about things. The way I normally thought about things and -- and approached them for other students, she would say didn't apply. For instance, that point about when I first started teaching, most of the kids came out of religious homes, and they were encountering atheism for the first time, reversed for her generation.

ABERNETHY: Right.

Mr. NOVAK: They were filled with atheism around them.

ABERNETHY: Jana, where are you now after all this process? Where did you come out of it religiously?

Photo of Jana Novak Ms. NOVAK: Well, I've actually joined a parish. I now go to church every Sunday and have now put more effort into educating myself. When we did this book and before we had done this book, I hadn't gone anywhere near any of the great religious books out there, like C. S. Lewis. And now that's all I'm reading. In fact, I'm making my novels and my fun reading -- all have to be religious, like George McDonald as well.

ABERNETHY: To both of you, many thanks. Jana and Michael Novak.

Mr. NOVAK: Thank you.

Ms. NOVAK: Thanks.

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