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COVER STORY:
Polygamy
October 2, 1998    Episode no. 205
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Photo of BOB ABERNETHY BOB ABERNETHY: On October 15th in Utah, a man is scheduled to be formally charged with complaints growing out of a polygamous marriage. A 16-year-old girl says her father violently forced her to marry her uncle and become one of his 15 wives. The girl's complaints revived national attention to polygamy, or plural marriages, as some call them, and produced estimates that in Utah, where the Mormon church once encouraged polygamy, the number of people still living in polygamous marriages is about 40,000.

Both the Mormon church and the state of Utah have forbidden polygamy for more than 100 years, but the state law is rarely enforced so the practice continues, mostly among a splinter group calling themselves Mormon fundamentalists, but with no connection to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

Our correspondent Lucky Severson found a polygamist family out in the high desert about 100 miles from the nearest town.

Photo of mesas LUCKY SEVERSON: Almost everyone who lives here under the red mesas in Colorado City, Arizona, is a polygamist. Even though they are not members of the Mormon church, they refer to themselves as Mormon fundamentalists, reaching back to the mid-1800s when the church practiced plural marriage. It was church doctrine then, that the only way to attain the highest degree of heaven was to give birth to as many souls as possible. And because there were far more women members than men, the solution was plural marriage. But in the 1890s, the church abandoned polygamy, and in 1896, when Utah became a state, it was declared illegal.

Professor IRWIN ALTMAN (University of Utah): And it is not an easy lifestyle.

SEVERSON: University of Utah psychologist Irwin Altman has written a book called POLYGAMIST FAMILIES IN CONTEMPORARY SOCIETY.

Prof. ALTMAN: I think that the Mormon church very vigorously and very explicitly excommunicates members of the church who they find to be practicing plural marriage.

Photo of jailed men SEVERSON: In 1951, the National Guard raided Colorado City, broke up dozens of families, and threw them in jail. It was a dark time polygamists will never forget. It's why they are always looking over their shoulder. Their lifestyles are so secretive: even in Utah, thousands of polygamists literally head for the hills, where they can live their lives as they please -- in this case, 200 miles southwest of Salt Lake City. And there's plenty of room to manage an extra-large family without drawing any attention.

Photo of Green family Every day at 4:00 sharp, the school bus stops along this dusty road, delivering Lauren and Joseph, Mindy and Kelly and Sierra home to Greenhaven, Utah.

Mr. TOM GREEN (Polygamist): Bonnie, come here.

SEVERSON: You won't find Greenhaven on a map. The state and the Mormon church would just as soon forget about the 35 people living here, five women, 29 children ...

Ms. HANNA GREEN (Wife): Go play, Elizabeth.

SEVERSON: ... and their father, Tom Green.

Photo of Tom Green and Lucky Severson Mr. GREEN: It's the members of the church who feel that it's their duty to try to stop what we're doing. And those are the people who cease to be Christians and become zealots and become persecutors. And I'm sad about that. That's one reason why we live away from those people.

SEVERSON: Green settled here a few years ago. He lost one child when his home burned down. Now, his rather large family lives quite snugly in a motley assortment of mobile homes. The first thing you'll notice at Greenhaven is the children, well-behaved, and they seem happy. The wives, who look young enough to be their siblings, actually are -- sisters, that is.

Ms. H. GREEN: Play ring around the rosie.

SEVERSON: Four of them.

Unidentified Woman: That's good. Very nice.

SEVERSON: Carrie and Hanna are only two years apart. They've been married to Tom seven years.

Mr. GREEN: This is my wife, Shirley.

SEVERSON: Then there's Shirley and her sister Leanne. Together, they eke out an existence, selling magazines by telephone and raising turkeys. They share everything, including the same man.

Did Tom ask you for your permission to -- when -- to marry his second wife?

Ms. LINDA GREEN (Wife): No. I told him he should marry her.

SEVERSON: What about jealousy? Do you ever get that way with each other?

Photo of CARRIE GREEN Ms. CARRIE GREEN (Wife): Some. There's -- I think there's always jealousy. But it's something you -- you overcome. And you learn to deal with. And it's never caused a problem where you hate your sister/wife or anything.

Ms. H. GREEN: You get to where you -- you love your sister/wife so much that you want for them to have what you have.

Offscreen Voice: Will you hand me a fork?

SEVERSON: The Green family runs a fairly tight ship. They have to, with so many mouths to feed, and with a meager $1,400 per month food budget, nothing is wasted.

Ms. H. GREEN: Sharon, come sit right here.

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SEVERSON: It's a lot of responsibility for 21-year-old Hanna. She was 14 when she got married.

Do you think that's too young?

Ms. H. GREEN: I think that's too young for most girls. But I didn't think it was too young for me. I loved him and that's what I wanted. I didn't want to wait.

SEVERSON: You were 14 then, were you old enough to know?

Photo of Hanna Green Ms. H. GREEN: Well, how is anybody old enough to know?

SEVERSON: This is the part of your life you're supposed to be having a good time, a teenager, you go out with boys, you go visit other countries. You missed all that.

Ms. LEANNE GREEN (Wife): Who said that's what you're supposed to do?

Ms. CARMEN THOMPSON (Tapestry Support Group): I believe I want to talk to Lynn.

SEVERSON: Meanwhile, in Salt Lake City, this woman, Carmen Thompson, is trying to find a way out for Hanna and her sister/wives and the thousands more like them. She started a support group called Tapestry.

Photo of CARMEN THOMPSON Ms. THOMPSON: It's an extremely oppressive, degrading lifestyle, and very secretive and inclusive. And there is a great separation between women that are inside the organization and the rest of the world.

(To an unidentified woman): Here.

SEVERSON: She should know. Thompson was married twice to polygamists. One was an ex-Mormon, the other an ex-Southern Baptist minister. She says a growing number of polygamists are moving to the Utah area to find wives and converts. In her view, there are thousands of abused polygamist women.

Ms. THOMPSON: I knew of a lot of abuse like this that occurred. And in most cases, women don't reach out to the outside community. We're taught that the outside world is sinful, that we should do everything we can to stay away from it.

SEVERSON: But Professor Altman, who spent years studying polygamist families, says he does not believe that spousal abuse is widespread.

Photo of IRWIN ALTMAN Prof. ALTMAN: I know of no evidence that suggests that abuse among these people is any greater than it is in the population at large.

SEVERSON: Altman says most families he studied are living a lifestyle that's very difficult, and for deeply religious reasons. Carmen Thompson says religion is an excuse.

Ms. THOMPSON: I've come to the understanding that polygamy is really about male libido, and they justify it behind religion.

SEVERSON: But that's not it?

Mr. GREEN: That's not it. No. Someone said, "I just can't stand the thought of you jumping into bed with all those women." I said, "I don't, I get in bed with one at a time."

Photo of green family SEVERSON: Tom Green knows he'll have a difficult time convincing the world outside that what he's doing is wholesome and not detrimental to his wives and kids. On the other hand, he's not terribly concerned about what people think outside of Greenhaven, Utah, population 35 and climbing.

Mr. GREEN: This is really about family. And that's our motivation here, is to build a family. We're normal people with a little larger family than normal.

ABERNETHY: Lucky, how do these families get away with it when it's against the law?

SEVERSON: Well, I think the sentiment out there is that they ought to be left alone, that they're not hurting anybody, they're not committing crime, they're not on drugs, so leave them alone. And remember, Utah was settled by people who were fleeing persecution and prosecution. So they have a very long memory of this.

ABERNETHY: So 40,000, you think that's a fair estimate?

SEVERSON: Well, it's the number I was hearing when I was out there 20 years ago.

ABERNETHY: I was surprised that they were confident enough so that they would be outside and talk to you and take those pictures.

Photo of Severson SEVERSON: Well, I think that they -- they think they've got to mount their own public relation thing. But you've got to remember, there are a lot of -- so many different splinter groups and organizations there. This was one private group. And this Tom Green wanted to get his message out.

ABERNETHY: Were you able to find out anything about how it works? I mean, does each wife has her own -- have her own trailer?

SEVERSON: I think it works very carefully. Yes, they're -- each wife has or will have her own trailer. And I think that's the way it is in a number of communities. One community, I was up in Montana, though, they had this humongous house. In fact, even in the suburbs of Salt Lake City, you'll find houses. One I saw that was close to being 27,000 square feet. And that is a huge, huge house. So, they all do it differently. But as one polygamist told me, they -- they do it very carefully.

ABERNETHY: Lucky, many thanks.

SEVERSON: Thank you.

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