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PERSPECTIVES:
Papal Resignation
January 14, 2000    Episode no. 320
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Photo of Abernethy BOB ABERNETHY: The Vatican this week confirmed the dates and itinerary for John Paul II's pilgrimage to the Holy Land. It will be March 20 to 26. The pope will begin in Jordan at the site of Moses' first view of the Promised Land, then to the River Jordan where Jesus was baptized. John Paul will celebrate Mass in Bethlehem, Jerusalem, and Nazareth and at a special service for young people on the Mount of Beatitudes overlooking the Sea of Galilee.

Recognizing sacred sites for Jews and Muslims, the pope will visit the Western Wall and the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. He'll confer with the king of Jordan, the president and the prime minister of Israel, and Yasir Arafat, president of the Palestinian Authority.

Photo of Italian newspaper John Paul is 79 years old, and this week speculation grew that someday he might resign. Bishop Karl Lehmann, head of the Catholic bishops in Germany, said if the pope felt he could no longer lead the church, Bishop Lehmann thought he would have the courage to step down. That was misinterpreted in some of the Italian press as a call for the pope's resignation, which led to denials all around, but which also raised the whole idea of papal resignation.

BOB ABERNETHY: Father Tom Reese is the editor of the Jesuit magazine AMERICA and an authority on Vatican procedures. He joins us from New York.

Father Reese, welcome.

Reverend THOMAS REESE (SJ; Editor, AMERICA MAGAZINE): Thank you.

ABERNETHY: Can a pope resign?

Rev. REESE: Yes, a pope can resign. The last pope that did that was Pope Celestine V over 700 years ago. The reaction was very negative. Dante, for example, put him in hell in the "Inferno."

ABERNETHY: For doing that?

Rev. REESE: Yes.

ABERNETHY: Mm-hmm. What would be the procedure? How would a pope do it now?

Rev. REESE: Really, it's very simple. The pope simply announces that he has resigned and then the College of Cardinals meets to elect a new pope.

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ABERNETHY: What if a pope became incapacitated, in a coma, say?

Rev. REESE: This is a serious problem, and we have no solution for it in the Catholic Church. We don't have anything like the 25th Amendment to the Constitution, which provides for the removal of an incapacitated president. We need something like that, because it could cause a constitutional crisis in the Church because we wouldn't know how to deal with it.

ABERNETHY: Hm. Is there a possibility that this pope has made a living will?

Photo of THOMAS REESE Rev. REESE: We hope that he has. Any one of his aides should have a living will that appoints someone as his medical executor who decides medical decisions for him when he's unconscious. But we don't know whether he has one or not.

ABERNETHY: Hm. This pope is clearly fragile. To what extent is he still able to do all the things that are required of him?

Rev. REESE: Well, people who talk to him and meet with him say he's still very sharp, mentally, and this is the most important thing. I think we forget that we have had elderly popes like John XXIII, who was 76 when he was elected and did a fine job as pope. We tend to compare him with what he looked like when he was 58 years old, when he was young and athletic.

Photo of Interview ABERNETHY: One suggestion made on this program recently is that John Paul might resign after his Holy Land pilgrimage this year. What do you make of that?

Rev. REESE: Oh, I think that's very unlikely. He has been looking forward to the Jubilee Year and there's no way he is going to miss this celebration. He's going to be around for at least another year.

ABERNETHY: Father Reese, many thanks.

Rev. REESE: Thank you.

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