LUCKY SEVERSON: This is the heart and soul of horse country, a few miles outside of Lexington, Kentucky. It is Sunday morning at the New Union Christian Church. Pastor Nancy Jo Kemper is at the pulpit.
Reverend NANCY JO KEMPER (New Union Christian Church) (To Congregation): The theme of this psalm is about unity and about ...SEVERSON: One of her favorite sermons is about loving and trusting thy neighbor, something she thinks is disappearing from the American scene.
Rev. KEMPER: Folks seem to be more and more frightened by their neighbor. In place of trying to love their neighbor, they want to arm themselves against their neighbor. And that's why I think churches need to be involved.
SEVERSON: But like other Kentucky preachers, Pastor Willie Ramsey thinks that people arming themselves is a God-given right. In 1998, Pastor Ramsey convinced the Kentucky legislature to enact a law that specifically allowed clergy to carry concealed weapons on church property, providing they have a license, as the pastor does. It is the only law of its kind in the country.
Reverend WILLIE RAMSEY (Church of Christ): As a preacher, a -- and as a religious person, I don't think that I need to be attacked simply because I'm a preacher or a religious person. My family wants me to come home safely in the evening, just like anyone else's, just like the policeman's family wants him to come home safely in the evening. The Second Amendment is a treasured right, and I appreciate it.SEVERSON: Was there an incident here in Kentucky that made certain pastors feel that they needed to carry guns?
Rev. KEMPER: No, we've not had a church robbed, except maybe once in the inner city of Louisville, in 20 years.
Father ANTHONY CHANDLER (St. Bartholomew's Catholic Church) (To Congregation): We pause now, calling to mind our sinfulness, asking God's forgiveness and loving mercy.SEVERSON: Father Anthony Chandler owns guns, but doesn't carry one.
You haven't personally felt threatened.
Fr. CHANDLER: No. No, I've never -- in my 11 years, I've not felt threatened.
SEVERSON: Pastor Ramsey says there has been an epidemic of crimes against religion in Kentucky, including the shooting in a Paducah high school targeting a prayer group. Three students were killed and five injured. And there was a robbery in a Kentucky church three years ago. Pastor Ramsey did not want us to take pictures of his church in rural Kentucky or his four guns, and he wouldn't tell us if he was carrying a gun on his way to church.
Rev. RAMSEY: Like, if I was going somewhere right now and I told somebody I'm not, that I -- you know, somebody that heard that or somebody found out, I could be in danger.
SEVERSON: He says his feelings about guns are based on biblical teachings: that Christ owns our bodies, and it is our obligation to protect them.
Rev. KEMPER: I think Jesus instructed us, you know, if someone strikes you on one cheek, to turn the other. If they want to take your coat, give them your cloak as well.
SEVERSON: But with Pastor Ramsey and other pro-gun preachers we spoke with, what is most sacred is the Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights, which says, "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Tom Riner is a minister and state legislator.
Reverend TOM RINER (Louisville Church for the Homeless): It's a basic freedom for each individual American to be able to own a firearm, and that helps, our forefathers said, stabilize a society, and it makes it less likely that we'll ever have the type of tyranny that has taken place in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia.Rev. KEMPER: Liberty has become the American civil religion, and it's destroying the democracy that we share. A democracy is based on moral values implemented in law for the benefit of the whole, not for the benefit of the one.


Ms. SHERRY HAMMOND (Mother of Gun Victim): I think the gun should be made to be destroyed, and let that be the end of it. Why would you want to own a gun that killed somebody like my child? It's not -- it doesn't make sense to me.