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COVER STORY:
Nobel Peace Nominee
February 16, 2001    Episode no. 425
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LUCKY SEVERSON (guest anchor). The Nobel Prize -- with it we associate words like prestige, dedication, brilliance. Not gangsters. Not murder. But in the California penitentiary known as San Quentin, there sits a man who has been waiting to die ... and who now hopes to win the Nobel Prize for peace.

SEVERSON: When she first came to San Quentin eight years ago, Barbara Becnel was researching a book on street gang warfare. She's been coming ever since to visit the co-founder of one of the world's most notorious gangs, the Crips.

"Tookie" WilliamsHis name is Stanley "Tookie" Williams, and he's been on death row for 20 years -- since he was 26 years old -- convicted of murdering four people in cold blood. Now he has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

BARBARA BECNEL: He is not being rewarded for the bad things he has done. He is being acknowledged for the good things he is trying to do.

SEVERSON: We were not allowed to interview Stan Williams on camera but we did speak to him by phone.

(To Williams): What was your reaction when you heard you were nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize?

STANLEY "TOOKIE" WILLIAMS (San Quentin Death Row inmate and author): I couldn't believe that I, a black man on death row, would ever be nominated for anything for that matter.

SEVERSON: Stan Williams started to write children's books with an anti gang message. With Barbara transcribing, he has now written eight books that are used in schools around the country. He started a Web site called "Tookie's Corner" and founded the "Internet Project for Street Peace" that allows at risk kids from as far away as Switzerland to communicate with each other.

The nomination set off a controversy that goes to the heart of the way Americans view justice. If a man commits horrible crimes, and then after years on death row, recommits his life to saving others -- is that redemption? Is he entitled to forgiveness, much less a Nobel Peace Prize?

Nancy Ruhe-Munch is with the National Organization of Parents of Murdered Children. Her group has used its Web site to solicit letters condemning the William's nomination.

Nancy Ruhe-MunchNANCY RUHE-MUNCH (National Organization of Parents of Murdered Children): We don't believe that anybody who has been convicted of murder should be rewarded with the Nobel Peace Prize. We just don't think that that is ethical or moral.

Consider the robberies -- murders that put Stan Williams on death row. A teenage 7-11 clerk shot in the head twice. One month later a mother, father and daughter shot -- gunned to death. He continues to deny and appeal all four convictions.

MS. BECNEL: I definitely feel and know, and have witnessed that he feels a great deal of remorse for having started the Crips and the horrible destruction. The bloody destructive legacy that it has left.

WILLIAMS: In order for me to experience redemption I had to first develop a conscience. And that enabled me to gradually rectify my many faults. And then, and only then, was I able to reach out to others to make amends.

MS. RUHE-MUNCH: It has nothing to do with forgiveness. It has nothing to do with redemption. And I really believe that society has to say -- no, we are not going to put these people up as heroes.

SEVERSON: Here in north Richmond, California, the wrong side of the San Francisco Bay, where the annual per capita income is $4,500 dollars -- where most everyone knows someone in prison and there are precious few role models -- "Tookie" Williams is a hero.

It's not because he co-founded the Crips. It's because he was one of them, and now he speaks against gangs and violence. This is Joshua Dixon.

JOSHUA DIXON (adolescent): I've learned that being cool is not like trying to bully people around. Like [you] do bad things just because you want to impress somebody.

Williams' booksSEVERSON: This is the neighborhood house, funded by proceeds from Tookie's books, the Zellerbach Foundation, and the Justice department. The door to this place locks automatically so no one can get in without permission. It's that kind of neighborhood. The house is filled with books and computers -- a sanctuary.

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Fred Jackson is a volunteer.

FRED JACKSON (volunteer): These kids don't have role models. So what I am telling them and what Tookie is telling them through me is that they, themselves, can be their role model.

MS. RUHE-MUNCH: I certainly don't believe because he has done something good that we need to put him on a pedestal.

SEVERSON: The Nobel Peace Prize is among the world's most prestigious, and the people who have won it -- Mother Teresa, the Dalai Lama, the Red Cross -- hardly fit in the category of Tookie Williams. But his nomination is more understandable knowing that the nominator, is a member of the Swiss parliament, and the Swiss are unambiguously opposed to the U.S. death penalty.

The Swiss consulted Father Bruce Bramlett about the nomination. He's worked with inmates on death row and has known Tookie for years, and he supported the nomination personally and philosophically.

FATHER BRUCE BRAMLETT (St. Paul's Episcopal Church): The system, whether or not it can allow this kind of paradoxical reality that bad people could do good things to exist, is really an invitation for our culture and for our human process to expand its possibility; it's a sense of possibility for the human.

SEVERSON: We spoke with some sophomores at a Virginia high school. They had all read about Tookie's nomination.

STEPHANIE (student): Sure people do dumb things, and I am sure he really feels bad about what he has done. And once again, you have to forgive people, and two wrongs don't make a right.

KATHRYN (student): [Because of] the fact that he killed four people, it is saying that anyone ... can do anything, and if you turn around and repent then you are OK and you are a wonderful person.

SEVERSON: But most of these 15 and 16 year-olds oppose the death penalty and think Tookie Williams should be forgiven, although not necessarily released from prison.

Neighborhood kids(To students): By a show of hands, how many people here think Tookie Williams should have been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize -- the majority of the class.

What offends his critics most, besides the nomination, is that Tookie has apologized for starting the Crips but has never admitted to, or apologized for, murdering four innocent people.

FATHER BRAMLETT: Our system is built in such a way that for an inmate on death row to apologize for something that he did, [it] virtually signs his death warrant. Can he be redeemed? Absolutely. If I didn't believe that I couldn't be doing what I do.

SEVERSON (to Williams): Do you feel that you have earned forgiveness?

WILLIAMS: Well that is up to the almighty as to whether or not I can be forgiven. You will find some people who will forgive me and some who won't. Anyone can criticize -- that is simple. But these same individuals who oppose me -- are they doing anything to help these underprivileged children out there?

SEVERSON: When Tookie calls Neighborhood House, it is clear that the young neighbors of north Richmond, at least the ones here, have forgiven him.

The chances that Tookie Williams will be awarded the Nobel Prize are slim at best -- some years there as many as 150 nominees. There is a much better chance that he will be the subject of a movie. A Hollywood producer has expressed a keen interest.

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