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FEATURE:
Bad Girls
February 16, 2001    Episode no. 425
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BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: Now, our profile of a popular Christian author and speaker who has built a ministry around the bad girls of the Bible. With humor and outspoken honesty, Liz Curtis Higgs says women today can learn a lot from some of the naughty women of scripture.

Kim Lawton spent the day with her.
Liz Curtis Higgs
KIM LAWTON: Author and speaker Liz Curtis Higgs focuses on the seamier side of scripture.

LIZ CURTIS HIGGS: We're talking murder, adultery, revenge, deceit, secret babies, seances, incest. Wild Women! Maybe that's why I felt so at home.

LAWTON: Her best-selling books BAD GIRLS OF THE BIBLE and its sequel, REALLY BAD GIRLS OF THE BIBLE have struck a chord with women across the country who appreciate her unvarnished honesty and her humorous approach to faith.

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: Who's that crazy woman?

Higgs' booksLAWTON: Liz advocates what she calls "girlfriend theology," woman to woman, relating real faith to real struggles. She says her credentials for ministry are her own bad girl days. She calls them her "pit years."

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: I never do anything half way, why just dip into the pit when you can sink into the bottom!

LAWTON: It was the 70s, and Liz had left her small-town Pennsylvania church-going background for the world of rock radio. She became a DJ and plunged headfirst into a life of sex, drugs, and rock and roll.

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: I even prided myself in being a really bad girl. I decided it was my identity; I decided it was my uniqueness.

LAWTON: Things got so bad, a colleague, shock jock Howard Stern, told her to "clean up her act."

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: Why I was never arrested, I will never know -- it was a gift from God that I didn't end up in jail -- it was a gift from God that I didn't end up dead on the highway, because, driving while blind, as the saying goes.

LAWTON: As she spiraled downward, Liz took a new rock radio job in Louisville, Kentucky. There she says, she met some evangelical Christians who told her how she truly could clean up her act.

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: They just peeped down my pit of despair and said, "Liz, we have a better high for you then where you are going now." And of course, I was always up for a better high -- "oh wow, do you drink it, snort it, do it, what do you do?" They said, "you just believe it." Oh, dear, you don't mean God, do you? Yeah, we do.

LAWTON: Eventually, she says she committed her life to Jesus.

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: It's wonderful now, in the new millennium, to look back on those years and understand they were preparation for what I do now, which is encouraging women who also have a past -- to let go of it -- to embrace the grace of God and move on.

LAWTON: Since that time, she's written 15 books, from children's stories to fictional romance to inspirational non-fiction. But her emphasis on the Bible bad girls has really ignited her ministry.

When Liz started studying the Bible, she says she was initially put off by some of the role models such as the Virgin Mary.

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: I just couldn't relate! But then I got to Jezebel, and I'm like "Oh, I get this, she's a pushy broad." I get that.

Herodias with head of John the BaptistLAWTON: She realized there was something all women could learn from these less-than perfect women, such as Herodias, the queen who demanded the head of John the Baptist.

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: I know what you're thinking: Liz, what am I supposed to learn from a story about a nasty woman like this -- even though if you are really honest with me, there have been a few men in your life you wouldn't mind seeing their head on a platter, do you know what I'm saying?

I usually encourage women to look at these women and say "is there anything you liked about them? Was there something admirable?" Because we really need to do that for each other. We tend to look around at women and say, "bad," "good." Not exactly. No one is all bad.

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LAWTON: Women around the country have been responding to her message. Liz has received hundreds of e-mails and letters. She tries to respond to each one. And, she says, women have been having fun acknowledging there may be a little bad girl in all of us.

Liz's home and office in Louisville are part of what she calls the "Laughing Heart Farm." And indeed, laughter has become a hallmark of her ministry.

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: A prophet-ESS! Wow! Female prophet! Write that down, honey. That is more rare than a decent dress on the 75 percent discount rack in your size.

One of the things I think kept me out of the church for years was that it looked too serious -- for a girl who loves to have fun and came from a very funny family. I mean in my family, if you weren't funny, you were asked to leave. So I wasn't sure that I could fit into the church because it looked very serious.

Higgs with bag(To audience): Let me try and get you picturing David. (pulls out bag with a man on it.) OK, are we clear with Bathsheba's situation now?

When we are able to laugh at ourselves, when we see our foolishness, our humanity, our fallibility, then we are exactly where God wants us to be, on our knees. And he's happy if we are on our knees laughing or on our knees crying. We're on our knees. We are humble, we are in a place of willingness to change and a willingness to learn, and laughter gets you there.

LAWTON: But behind the fun, Liz tries to address some of the most painful issues women face today. Issues such as low self-image.

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: Of course, as a big beautiful woman in a narrow, nervous world, this is an issue that I needed to deal with myself. What I have found is, people accept you to the level to which you accept yourself.

I really just encourage women, you don't really want to go overboard in the outward, that's temporary, it's not our eternal selves, but sometimes one small thing makes you start burst into [the] song " I Feel Pretty" or whatever, it just gives you a sense of being made beautiful in God's image.

LAWTON: Liz says American women are too often bombarded by the notion that they have to be perfect. The church, she says, doesn't adequately minister to women who feel they don't measure up.

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: My bottom line message of course when it comes to all those tapes that are playing, and all those little voices -- you know that little "na-na-na" that either sits on your shoulder or perches on your glasses or wherever that sound is. It's usually right over here -- those little negatives. First of all, the one I seek to please is God -- and that is not God.

LAWTON: But the Oprah-like message of letting go of shame and taking care of self also has a distinctly evangelistic tone that Liz refuses to water down.

Higgs at podiumMS. CURTIS HIGGS: I would say yes, it is a relevant message for those who aren't believers. However, I can't be anything but honest with you; it would be my prayer that they would examine faith and what it could bring to their lives.

I am standing before you as a woman who more than once in her life has put fame and fortune ahead of my family.

LAWTON: Liz says she still not completely a good girl. She struggles with perfectionism, and with balancing her work, her marriage, and her children.

MS. CURTIS HIGGS: [I can] speak in front of 5,000 people, [and it's] no problem. [I can] write books read by 100,000, [and it's] no problem, [but if I] try to raise an 11 and 13 year old -- ooooh baby! It's hard. Because you don't know what the finished product will be and you can't hold it in your hands like a page. If there's any area where I beg for grace, it's the raising of my children.

LAWTON: Her openness, her vulnerability and her message have apparently touched the hearts of thousands of women.

I'm Kim Lawton reporting.

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