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PERSPECTIVES:
Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Tensions
May 4, 2001    Episode no. 436
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BOB ABERNETHY (anchor): Another historic journey for Pope John Paul II, a five-day trip to Greece, Syria, and Malta.

For him, it's a spiritual pilgrimage. A continuation of last year's Holy Land visits to sacred sites from the Old and New Testament. The trip began in Athens, Greece, where according to the New Testament, the apostle Paul preached to the Gentiles. On his arrival, John Paul offered a sweeping statement of regret to the Orthodox Christians for "sins of action and omission." The statement could help ease tensions in the region where interfaith relations are historically tense. Papa Persona Non GrataJust the announcement of John Paul's trip caused vitriolic protests, especially from Orthodox clergy. Some of them charge the journey is an attempt to extend papal authority. No Orthodox Church leaders turned out at the airport to greet John Paul.

The protests against the Pope in Greece -- especially those by Orthodox clergy -- have dramatized the deep Orthodox hostility to the Catholic papacy.

For a look at the roots of that hostility, and the chances of changing it, I spoke with Peter Steinfels, who writes the "Beliefs" column for the NEW YORK TIMES and teaches at Georgetown University.

(to Steinfels): About the relations between Catholics and Eastern Orthodox: Peter, there have been protests in Greece, I guess primarily by clergy, nuns, monks. The language used to protest the pope has been so hostile. Calling him a heretic and all kinds of things like that. Why are these Greek Orthodox so hostile towards the Pope?

Peter SteinfelsPETER STEINFELS ("Beliefs" Columnist, NEW YORK TIMES): Some of the statements are so fierce and vehement that it is hard to subject them to rational analysis. But I think it is important to remember that Catholics and Orthodox have not shared a common modern history in the same way that Catholics and Protestants in Europe or Catholics and Protestants in the United States have shared one. So there are historical animosities that go back centuries. People repeatedly recall the sacking of Constantinople by western Christians in the year 1204. And I think that's one factor. Another factor is simply the identification of orthodoxy with being Greek. So a religious leader, a Christian's religious leader who is not recognized by the Orthodox, his presence seemed to challenge Greek identity, at least to some part of the population. And thirdly, there are these theological objections. The arguments between orthodoxy and Catholicism. Particularly centering on the Pope's claims to a universal authority in the church.

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ABERNETHY: There have been talks that have been going on between Catholics and Eastern Orthodox since the '70s. But they haven't seemed to be getting anywhere. And John Paul has been quoted as saying "that the failure to work out a new relationship with the Eastern Orthodox is the biggest failure of his papacy." What does this trip say about those talks and about the future of some kind of reconciliation between Catholics and Eastern Orthodox?

STEINFELS: I think this planned trip to Ukraine later this year as well as the present one to Greece suggests that the Pope John Paul IIVatican, while by no means abandoning this pope's high desire to move toward greater unity, has nevertheless given up this as a likelihood for the near future. They have other priorities. In the case of Greece, it is completing the pope's desire to visit these important sites of the New Testament. Particularly where Paul preached in Athens. In the case of the visit later to Ukraine, it's a pastoral visit to eastern Catholics in that region. But clearly, the Vatican knows that these are running into creating tension with the Orthodox, but I think that it shows that they've changed their priorities.

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