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FEATURE:
Papal Succession
June 8, 2001    Episode no. 441
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BOB ABERNETHY, anchor (April 8, 2005): This was a week of mourning for Pope John Paul II and preparations for choosing his successor. Kim Lawton is in Rome on a rainy afternoon. Kim:

Photo of Pope John Paul II funeral KIM LAWTON: Millions of pilgrims from all over the world came here, as did political and religious leaders from more than 100 countries. It was a very moving service, interrupted by applause numerous times. It also included rituals by Eastern Rite Catholics. Afterward, John Paul was laid to rest in a grotto underneath St. Peter's Basilica. For four days in the church itself, his body had lain in state while millions of pilgrims and other dignitaries filed past to say goodbye to this much loved pope. Some of them had to wait for 24 hours. Among the mourners were President and Mrs. Bush, former presidents Bush and Clinton, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. An estimated one million people from John Paul's native Poland came to honor the world's first Polish pope.

The cardinals who will choose John Paul's successor met to set the opening date for their conclave. They chose Monday, April 18. They also heard the reading of John Paul's spiritual testament. He left no possessions and asked that his personal notes be burned.

John Paul died on Saturday, April 2, after a reign of 26 years.

Photo of Pope John Paul II funeral It's been an emotional week here in Rome, culminating on Friday with the funeral mass for Pope John Paul II, one of the largest religious gatherings in history. The Vatican had everything really well planned, but I was struck by how quickly it became the people's remembrance and the people's Mass even -- from the people who waited in line for hours for just a glimpse of his body lying in state, to those tens of thousands who were sleeping in the streets here, just trying to get close to the Mass. Some of the most moving moments of the Mass itself came when the people interrupted the liturgy as it was going forward with applause and chants that just seemed to reverberate across St. Peter's Square.

ABERNETHY: Kim, what happens now?

LAWTON: Well, up until now the focus has really been on John Paul II and getting ready for the funeral, but now the Church moves to a new stage, where preparations to select a new pope really go into full swing. There's still a mourning period, but the cardinals now turn to planning for the conclave. They're meeting every single day. The College of Cardinals is governing the Church during this period, but they are only doing a very little bit of business -- nothing controversial, nothing that the pope would have done, such as appoint bishops. And they're also spending days just talking about some of the goals and the challenges that the Church faces.

ABERNETHY: What are the cardinals saying?

LAWTON: Well, I had the opportunity, along with some other reporters, to speak with several of the American cardinals this week, and they all talked about feeling the weight of that responsibility. Cardinal Justin Rigali of Philadelphia said he thinks that all of the cardinals are really conscious that this is probably the most solemn responsibility they'll ever face in their lives. Cardinal Theodore McCarrick from Washington, D.C. told me he expects he'll go into the conclave with a feeling of awe, but also a lot of nervousness. He said, "I wish I were a holier man so I could hear the Holy Spirit better."

ABERNETHY: Kim, have you heard any talk about likely candidates?

Photo of Pope John Paul II funeral LAWTON: Well, certainly outside the College of Cardinals there's a lot of talk, a lot of speculation about who the next pope might be. The cardinals themselves are not allowed to politic, they're not allowed to campaign, they're not allowed to openly talk about those things. But in their meetings, they certainly are assessing one another. They're getting to know one another. Some of them had never even met before this week, and they're certainly taking a look at the qualities that the next pope might bring to the papacy.

One hundred seventeen cardinals are under the age of 80 and therefore eligible to vote for the new pope. Only three of them have ever been a part of a conclave before. I took a look at the conclave process.

The process that's used to elect a new pope is an ancient one and it's full of ritual, surrounded by absolute secrecy. The word conclave actually comes from the Latin meaning "with a key" because the cardinals are literally locked into the Sistine Chapel during their deliberations. I looked at the conclave process on a recent trip to Rome.

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KIM LAWTON (June 8, 2001): In the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus says his disciple Peter is the rock upon which the church will be built. He tells Peter, "I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven." The Roman Catholic Church teaches that its leader, the pope, is part of an unbroken succession from Peter. And selecting Peter's successor is a momentous occasion.

JOHN ALLEN (NATIONAL CATHOLIC REPORTER): What you have in a conclave is a moment of change on a world scale that the change in no other office, the change of no other leader, comes close to replicating. The transition in American presidents does not have the gravity, does not have the global significance that a change in the papacy does.

LAWTON: The details of the process have evolved greatly over the centuries. Under current rules, after the death, or resignation of a pope, Cardinals under the age of 80 have between 15 and 20 days to gather in Rome for the conclave. Until a new pope is elected, the College of Cardinals governs the church, but with limited powers.

FATHER THOMAS REESE, S.J. (AMERICA magazine): When the Cardinals meet to elect a pope, first of all, they're locked up so that they cannot be influenced by anything from the outside, and also so they can maintain secrecy. There will be no cell phones, no radios, no newspapers, no telephones, no communication with the outside world.

LAWTON: During the next conclave, most of the Cardinals will stay in Saint Martha's House, a new $20 million dollar hotel-like complex. Saint Martha's House has private baths and air-conditioning, a stark contrast from the past -- makeshift accommodations for these mostly elderly men.

Father O'CollinsFATHER GERALD O'COLLINS, S.J. (Gregorian University): In previous conclaves, cardinals have had to sleep in emergency beds, and there were emergency toilets in the Apostolic Palace. It was a bit rustic. It was like camping out in a wonderful building.

FATHER REESE: The facilities are much more comfortable than they were in the past. There's some fear that this might slow the cardinals in making the decision. The idea in the past was to make it as uncomfortable as possible so that the cardinals would hurry up and finish their job and go home.

LAWTON: Every day, the Cardinals will assemble in the nearby Sistine Chapel, under the watchful eyes of Michelangelo's newly-restored frescoes. One of the first orders of business is swearing an oath of absolute secrecy. Under modern church rules, the conclave area is swept for bugs and other surveillance devices.

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MR. ALLEN: The Cardinals are not supposed to be casting votes based on their image or based on political considerations, but based on who they really think is best for the Church. And the notion is that doing that behind closed doors makes that somehow easier, makes that more possible.

LAWTON: Sequestered inside the Sistine Chapel, the Cardinals vote by paper ballot, guided, the church says, by the Holy Spirit.

Father ReeseFATHER REESE: They have a small piece of paper and on it they write the name of the person they're voting for. Then they fold that piece of paper in two and hold it in their hand and march up one by one, holding it in the air so that everyone can see there is only one ballot here.

LAWTON: Selected "Cardinal-scrutineers" count the number of ballots, making sure they correspond with the number of cardinals in the room. They then tally the ballots aloud. Under previous rules, the Pope was always chosen by a two-thirds vote. There can be four votes a day. After three days, the voting can be suspended for a day of further prayer and discussion. Technically, any baptized male can be elected pope, although since the 14th century, he has come from the College of Cardinals.

In 1996, Pope John Paul II added a new twist to the balloting. It's complicated but if a new pope hasn't been elected after up to 34 votes over ten or 12 days, the Cardinals have the option of moving to a simple majority vote.

After each round of voting, the ballots are burned in a special stove that has been used since the beginning of the 20th century.

Ballot stoveFATHER REESE: If the ballot had not elected a pope, they would put chemicals in to make the smoke black. If a pope is elected, they put certain chemicals into the stove with the ballots, so that the smoke comes out white. During the last conclave, they had some problems because the man in charge didn't quite know how to put the chemicals in, and so the smoke was coming out gray, and everybody was scratching their heads saying, "Do we have a pope or don't we?"

LAWTON: Outside, people gather in St. Peter's Square to pray and to await the word from the conclave.

Father Gerald O'Collins was in Rome in 1978 when Pope John Paul II was elected. The rector of Rome's Gregorian University announced the news after Mass.

FATHER O'COLLINS: At the end of the mass he said, "Boys ... you know there's white smoke." So everybody rushes up to St. Peter's. A huge crowd there. The people in Rome get into the spirit of that kind of thing. They just take to the streets and the cars have to stop. I wouldn't have missed it for the world.

LAWTON: In the past, conclaves were sometimes held outside Rome. The process itself has evolved significantly over the centuries.

The conclave system was first institutionalized in the late 13th century here in Viterbo, north of Rome. Pope Gregory IX set down a set of rules for the future after the lengthy -- and chaotic -- process of his own election. This palace was the first place the cardinals were literally locked into a conclave.

In the year 1268, 18 Cardinals gathered here to elect a new pope. But they were deeply divided and distracted by political tensions. After a year and a half of unsuccessful negotiations, local authorities decided to help the Cardinals focus by locking them into the palace. Soon, even more drastic measures were needed.

Monsignor Del CiucoMONSIGNOR SALVATORE DEL CIUCO (San Lorenzo Cathedral, Viterbo): It was still taking months to choose a pope, so the people of Viterbo asked the Cardinals, "Why don't you hurry up and choose a pope?" The Cardinals said, because the descent of the Holy Spirit on our heads is not easy. So the people said, "Let's facilitate the descent of the Holy Spirit. If we remove the roof of the palace he will come down easier." And in fact, in a few days, the new pope Gregory IX was elected.

LAWTON: Modern popes have made their own changes that could have a huge impact on the future. In 1975, Paul VI instituted the age limit of 80 and expanded the number of voting cardinals.

John Paul II has further expanded and internationalized the College of Cardinals.

John Allen ALLEN: The odds of a pope who is not European and not Italian are much more than they ever have been, simply because numerically, the blocs from those non-European places are much larger and therefore have the political capacity to put forward their candidates.

LAWTON: John Paul II's option of moving to a majority vote may also have significant implications. Some say this will streamline the process. Others believe it may have the opposite effect, encouraging small factions of cardinals to hold out for a simple majority, rather than seeking compromise.

FATHER REESE: The larger a group, the more difficult it is for the group to come to consensus.

LAWTON: Another new factor for the next conclave is the proliferation of the media, which will challenge the vow of secrecy, and perhaps also shape the choices.

CardinalsREESE: It's going to have to be someone who is at ease being the center of attention with the media. That's just part of the reality of being pope today, whether the Church likes it or not.

LAWTON: Indeed, many pundits have drawn up lengthy lists of the qualifications for the next pope, as they have in years past. Not everyone thinks that is a helpful exercise.

O'COLLINS: He had to speak English. He had to speak Spanish. He had to speak other languages. He had to be holy. He had to be learned. You had to have all these experiences. They had this enormous list of the characteristics of the next pope and I thought, "Jesus Christ himself couldn't satisfy that." I mean, let the Pope be the pope he's going to be.

LAWTON: Inevitably, observers are making up their short lists of candidates -- lists that have already been revised many times. But, the election of both John Paul I and John Paul II came as surprises.

FATHER O'COLLINS: People do talk about the Holy Spirit being at the conclave, and I thought, that's interesting. It's a kind of almost hint of that. The obvious candidates that journalists and people like myself, the self-appointed pundits think about, they're not the ones who are elected.

Did you like this story? How can we improve our program or Web site? LAWTON: And beyond the politics and the process and the pageantry, for the world's Catholics, the next conclave will ultimately be a holy endeavor.

I'm Kim Lawton in Rome.

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