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FEATURE:
The Role of Women in Islam
January 25, 2002    Episode no. 521
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BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: As relief and rebuilding continue in Afghanistan, the role of women there and throughout the Muslim world is getting more and more attention. Does the Koran subjugate women to men? Have centuries of male dominance prevented many Muslim women from seeing themselves as individual persons?

Muslim Women Deryl Davis discovered many different opinions among Muslim women in the U.S. He also heard the same women say true Islam is liberating.

DERYL DAVIS: Belquis Babi's home is unusually quiet this year. That's because her two young sons are gone.

Tariq and Khalid were kidnapped by their father -- a Taliban supporter -- and taken to Afghanistan. Belquis hasn't seen them in over a year.

Belquis Babi BELQUIS BABI: I wish one day they come back.

DAVIS: Belquis's story, a tale of wife-beating and child abduction, resonates with many westerners. It fits a popular conception that Islam discriminates against women. In Saudi Arabia, women are not allowed to drive. Kuwaiti women still can't vote. The Taliban forced Afghan women to cover themselves head to toe. They didn't allow women to work or go to school.

RIFFAT HASSAN (Muslim scholar, University of Louisville): The vast majority of Muslim men and the vast majority of Muslim women actually believe that men are superior to women and women are inferior to men.

DAVIS: But a diverse group of Muslim women in the U.S. has other opinions. They say Islam offers many freedoms.

NERMEEN SLIM (Social Services, Islamic Foundation of America): Islam is liberating in everything in all means.

Sharifa Alkhateeb SHARIFA ALKHATEEB (President, North American Council for Muslim Women): I find it liberating, definitely. But it's sort of like it's liberating but it's a continuous struggle.

DAVIS: Like many Muslims here in the U.S., these women say it's not their religion that oppresses women.

Ms. ALKHATEEB: There's a wide gap between the ideal, which is in the pages of the Koran and the real, which is what women are living under. It's not Islam that, you know, mistreats women it's Muslims who mistreat women.

Ms. BABI: He used always Islam against me. Always he said like in Koran they said like the woman should do this and that and it's okay for the man to beat the wife.

DAVIS: Such behavior is rooted in the widely held belief that Islam makes wives subservient to their husbands.

Nermeen Slim Ms. SLIM: If she obeys her husband and if she keeps her chastity she'll enter paradise from any door she wishes.

DAVIS: Legal scholar Azizah al Hibri says the requirement for obedience is a misinterpretation of the Koran.

Dr. AZIZAH AL HIBRI: There is a verse in the Koran which says that men are -- and I will use an Arabic word here -- "qawwamun" over women. The question was "What does the word 'qawwamun' mean?" And the men said it means that men are basically superior to women. They lord over them. And what it really means is to take care of somebody, to be concerned about, worry about, support financially, whatever.

DAVIS: The proper relationship between men and women is hotly debated.

Ms. ALKHATEEB: Ultimate obedience is only to God -- not to any human being. It's one of the key issues that's terribly misunderstood within the Muslim families -- this idea of obeying a human being.

Ms. SLIM: But there is one thing. There is "al-qa'aed" in Arabic, which is the leader. You know, like leadership in the family should be for the husband. If he's a just true Muslim, he'll be a fair leader. He'll have "shura" consultation with his wife.

Ms. ALKHATEEB: What she said, "if," is a huge if -- it's a huge if. IF the husband is truly enlightened and so forth. I really haven't seen that many Muslim husbands that are truly enlightened to tell you the truth.

Ms. SLIM: I've seen a lot in my life.

Ms. ALKHATEEB: Well, maybe she has, but I haven't in my life.

DAVIS: Perhaps nothing has been so visible or so open to misinterpretation as what Muslim women wear. In western eyes, burkas, veils and hijabs -- or head coverings -- can symbolize oppression. But for many Muslim women, these garments represent an important religious and moral choice.

Riffat Hassan Ms. HASSAN: What the Koran talks about is the principle of modesty. That men and women should behave and dress in a modest way. Meaning by modesty, meaning don't act in an exhibitionist way.

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AFEEFA SYEED: And hijab or covering is not just covering your head, it's an attitude.

Ms. ALKHATEEB: You're demanding, by covering, that men treat you as an intelligent being and not just an object that has hair and perfume and make up. And definitely if it had anything at all to do with, you know, subjugating myself to men, definitely I would not do it.

DAVIS: For Azar Nafisi, who was a college professor in Iran, that's just what it was -- subjugation.

Dr. AZAR NAFISI (Professor, Johns Hopkins University): I felt that now I'm forced to wear the veil and none of us wanted to do that because wearing or not wearing the veil, interpreting how you want to worship God, my parents always taught me, was very private.

DAVIS: Azar says the Iranian government stole her personal freedom when it forced its brand of Islam on her. She says she's lucky to have been able to bring her daughter to the U.S. but her students back in Iran are not so fortunate. A few years ago in Tehran, she led an underground workshop for young women.

Dr. Azar Nafisi Dr. NAFISI: One of the questions I had asked them was "Talk about your image of yourself. How do you see yourself?" And most of them said they couldn't see themselves. We all felt that forcing us to look alike made us invisible.

Davis: The girls wrote poems about being female under Iran's Islamist regime.

Dr. NAFISI (reading from poem): "The veiled sound of the cricket bears my breath. The silence of the dark carries my cry. I sometimes badly doubt whether I am real or not." This is how we all felt.

DAVIS: Riffat Hassan had similar feelings growing up in Pakistan.

Ms. HASSAN: I could never take for granted that I was a person. I mean my personhood was something that I had to struggle for.

DAVIS: Many scholars argue that the Koran gives women extensive rights. But some Muslim women, like Belquis, are prevented or discouraged from practicing them.

Ms. BABI: When I told him I'm going to leave, he brought the Koran and he opened the Koran in front of me and asked me to not leave.

DAVIS: Scholars say Islam granted women these rights in the 7th century, long before western women achieved theirs.

Ms. SLIM: So I don't think we need any movement to draw these rights back to us because we already have them.

DAVIS: You don't need feminism?

Ms. SLIM: No, we don't need it. Because just opening the Koran Ñ it's so simple, it's so clear.

DAVIS: Muslim women say there's pressure to conform to western standards of women's liberation -which many Muslims reject as too secular and too permissive.

Ms. ALKHATEEB: When feminists talk about liberation they really are talking about total sexual liberation starting at puberty. They really are.

DAVIS: Muslim women face some hard choices about how to achieve greater independence and opportunity. Western feminism, with its emphasis on personal freedom, offers a powerful model. But Muslim women say they'll have to find their own way -- within Islam.

Afeefa Sayeed Ms. SAYEED: Feminist movements from America or from the West can come in and make little changes here and there. They can burn the scarves, which they like to do as a symbolic gesture. But nothing will be sustainable from there. It has to be from within.

DAVIS: These women say the answer lies in education: that more Muslims, particularly women, should read and interpret the Koran for themselves.

Ms. ALKHATEEB: Go back to the sources. Do you have something in the Koran, do you have something in the behavior and sayings of the Prophet that proves what you're saying?

Ms. SAYEED: If these people know what they're reading, if they understand it, then there will be some resistance. And the resistance won't be to be more feminist or to be more western or to be modern, it'll be to be more Muslim.

DAVIS: Being Muslim is no less important to Belquis, despite her experience.

Ms. BABI: I love my religion, my religion is in my heart.

DAVIS: But she's still waiting for her children to come home. I'm Deryl Davis reporting.

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