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Sister Mary Xavier: A Nun's Story
January 23, 2004    Episode no. 721
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BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: Now, a rare and remarkable look at a young woman's life as a novice inside a Catholic convent near St. Louis, the Carmelite Sisters of the Divine Heart of Jesus. Filmmaker Diana Frank followed a novice there for nearly two years -- up to the taking of her first vows, of poverty, chastity, and obedience.

Later, Sister Mary Xavier, the name she took, and several others from the convent left to try to start a less sequestered order. But she says she remains committed to a religious life.

Photo of Sister Mary Xavier Sister MARY XAVIER (Novice, Carmelite Sisters of the Divine Heart of Jesus, St. Louis): When I first entered the convent, it was so different. It was like a culture shock. Everything was just so holy. It was like walking into another world. I didn't really have a desire to go into a convent and never see anyone again. I didn't want to be a nun. I mean, I had so many other things I wanted to be. I wanted to get married. I wanted to have kids. I wanted to be a normal person. You know, what everyone else does -- what all my friends are doing: going to school, and having a career, and all that kind of stuff.

I want to have an impact on the world, and I wanted to be somebody. I had all these dreams, and all these aspirations that I wanted to do and to be. Like I love acting. I love theater, and you don't really get much of that in the convent.

The convent was like, you know, throwing your life away. But I still felt that tug. I knew it was something in me. You know, I just knew it was God saying, "I want this."

My father, I would say, just did not want me here.

Photo of JESSE MCCULLOUGH JESSE MCCULLOUGH (Father of Sister Mary Xavier): We lost a son. It was like cutting off an arm, you know. And then, when she goes away, it's like cutting off another arm. You're hurt, you know. You think you're not going to see her again for a long time. You know, you're not used to that. You know, you think, "Me -- why's this happening to me? Why am I losing another child?"

Sister MARY XAVIER: They were so against it. Like I would get letters, and, you know, "you shouldn't be there, you're throwing your life away," and all this. It was hard. A number of times I cried over those letters.

I'm a novice -- a second-year novice. The novitiate, it's a time of intense preparation, intense formation, that you're going to be religious and stuff, and so it's a kind of stripping away of all your attachments to, like, to the world. On December 8, that's when I make my first profession. The profession of the three evangelical councils are vows, which are of poverty, chastity, and obedience.

Photo of MARY LELIA Sister MARY LELIA (Novice Mistress, Carmelite Sisters of the Divine Heart of Jesus, St. Louis): The three vows kind of are an epitome of what the whole life is going to be. All of your life before this moment of the taking of the vows is kind of a preparation. It all comes up to that moment. Everything in your life is going to flow from that moment. Chastity -- chastity can have a very negative connotation.

Sister MARY XAVIER: In high school I dated a little bit. But it was nothing major. I was never, like, in love or anything like that, like I was going to marry a boy or something.

Sister MARY LELIA: Chastity is a freedom. It's a freedom to love more purely, more perfectly. And the three vows are how we bind ourselves to him. Poverty in the negative sense is that I cannot use anything without asking permission for it.

Sister MARY XAVIER: Like me and my brother would spend weekends at the mall. It's all we would do, is shop for clothes. But I love clothes, clothes and shoes.

Photo of Sister Mary Xavier Sister MARY LELIA: We can be so greedy. And poverty is to help us be free of greed so that I can again attach myself more completely to Christ. And then the third vow, obedience, which for some congregations, that's the only vow they take, because it encompasses everything. Part of obedience is, I am not to determine anymore that I do this or do that -- where yourself is going to be. It's not going to be choices you make, which people you're going to work with.

Sister MARY XAVIER: What toothpaste I use.

Sister MARY LELIA: That's right, that's not the choice you're going to make. This period's going to decide. This is how you're going to use your talents. I give my talents to God. It's not for me to determine.

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Sister MARY XAVIER: For me, obedience is the hardest -- to have to listen to someone else. Not that they tell me to do terrible things. Just trusting others to know that they know what's best for me. They know better than I do, you know, from what God wants of me and things like that, and to trust in that and to say, "Lead me," is rather hard. But I can see how society would think that chastity would be the hardest. Yeah, I thought the same thing, before I entered. I thought, "Oh, that must be the most terrible, you know, the most, one that's, you know, so hard," and all that kind of stuff. But it's really -- I mean, of course it's a hard vow and of course it's an essential vow. And I guess, seeing my brothers get married and have children and all this kind of things, it's not easy. Of course, it's my vows are kind of like getting married. It's marrying God. A life decision, you could call it.

Sister MARY LELIA: The Eucharist -- a taste of eternity in time. The Eucharist is not only food for us on our pilgrim way but also the promise of what lies at our journey's end.

Photo of rosary beads Sister MARY XAVIER: I mean, I have doubted. Am I supposed to be here? Am I not supposed to be here? You know, I have doubted that. And I miss theater, very much. But I want to go to heaven. I want to be a saint. Going to Hollywood wasn't going to get me to heaven. Really, I believe that God called me here, and I believe that he loves me, and I believe that he is out there, you know. I know it, I know it, you know. But sometimes you can doubt. He can't come down and say, "I love you."

Sister MARY LELIA: Within that setting of searching for God, that the Eucharist can then achieve its end.

Sister MARY XAVIER: Sometimes it's just kind of like, what is this all for? Is all this really real, you know. This is my new veil. I'll get it on the eighth. That's when I make my first profession. I got to try it on once already, and I got to look in the mirror, and I think it looks much better than the white. Well, I look forward to giving myself, holding completely to God. I'm scared of the exact same thing. Sometimes it just sort of hits you -- this is forever. It's a big step, you know, I'm going to say yes to God. When we make our vows, it's our wedding day. I just can't believe it's here.

Photo of Sister Mary Xavier UNIDENTIFIED PRIEST (At Ceremony): In our ceremony this morning, Sister Mary Xavier, after making her profession, belongs completely to God, and is totally devoted to him. Sister Mary Xavier, of the divine bridegroom, are you resolved to be more closely united to God by the new bond of religious profession?

Sister MARY XAVIER: I am so resolved.

PRIEST: Mary, are you resolved to live in chastity as a sign of the kingdom of heaven, to practice voluntary poverty, to offer the sacrifice of obedience?

Sister MARY XAVIER: I am so resolved.

PRIEST: May Almighty God give you his grace to fulfill your resolution.

Photo of Sister Mary Xavier kneeling Sister MARY XAVIER: My hands are shaking. I hope I can get through this. I, Sister Mary Xavier of the divine bridegroom, Tiffany Irene McCullough, with the firm determination of consecrating myself totally to him, with my whole heart, I join this religious congregation.

UNIDENTIFIED NUN: I accept your vows.

PRIEST: Sister Mary Xavier, receive this veil by which you are to show that you are totally given to Christ the Lord, and dedicated to the service of the Church. Receive, dear sister, the light of Christ, as a sign of your immortality. Christ will be your light.

Sister MARY XAVIER: I could never imagine someone being so happy about it. You know, I just -- never in my wildest imagination could I ever think of that. It's just amazing. It's such a huge thing, of being at this moment; I just can't see anything else.

Photo of Sister Mary Xavier ABERNETHY: For the time being, Sister Mary Xavier is using her family name, Tiffany Irene McCullough. She and several other former nuns are living in Louisiana, where they are waiting for permission from their bishop to start a new congregation to counsel and evangelize those she calls "the wounded," who have slipped away from the Catholic Church. She says she has no qualms about eventually taking her final vows.

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