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INTERVIEW:
Jim Caviezel
February 20, 2004    Episode no. 725
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KIM LAWTON: Actor Jim Caviezel says playing the role of Jesus in THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST was the most physically and spiritually challenging experience of his life.

JIM CAVIEZEL: As there are no passive onlookers that, that watch this film, it demands something from you. The same thing goes with any of the actors who portrayed it.

LAWTON: The physical demands were legion: He spent up to 10 hours a day in make-up; he contracted pneumonia and hypothermia from being exposed to the Italian winter dressed only in a loin-cloth. And the brutal flogging scenes were all too real. Twice, the actors actually whipped Caviezel on the back.

Still from THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Mr. CAVIEZEL: I just couldn't act anymore with the whips because they'd come in, and I'd flinch before they'd come.

LAWTON: At one point during the shooting, Caviezel was even struck by lightning, although he wasn't seriously injured.

Mr. CAVIEZEL: About three seconds before it hit, there's like a vacuum. Maybe it's like being in the eye of a storm, of a hurricane, and there was a vacuum, and it just got eerily silent.

LAWTON: Mel Gibson has said this movie is his personal meditation on suffering. It was a close-up of Gibson's own hand that nailed Caviezel to the cross. Caviezel, a devout Roman Catholic, says being part of the graphically violent film brought him new spiritual insights on suffering as well.

Photo of JIM CAVIEZEL Mr. CAVIEZEL: I mean, I went to Mel hell. So when I came out of that, absolutely, I felt different. I really felt at the end of the day that there's something out there that's bigger than me. And I believe that.

LAWTON: What was the most powerful moment for you, being part of it all?

Mr. CAVIEZEL: When I got nailed to that cross, it's no question. This is history to me, right at that moment. And then, leaning over and weeping when I saw Mel take that hammer and put the nail into that hand. It just broke me up.

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LAWTON: Is it weird when you say things like, "Well, when they were nailing me to the cross"? Is it strange for you just to even be using language like that?

Mr. CAVIEZEL: You know, my point in being an actor is to get people to believe that this is not about me, but something else. I want the work to speak for itself -- to transcend whatever I'm doing. And so, I pray. I don't think you can play a role like this and not.

LAWTON: There's been a storm of controversy surrounding THE PASSION, particularly from some Jewish leaders who say the movie portrays Jews negatively and could reignite discrimination and persecution against Jews. The actor says that controversy has been deeply painful for him.

Mr. CAVIEZEL: I wouldn't want to go down a slide on a razor and land in a pool of alcohol. But on a level, it's even worse than that -- inside your heart. I know I'm not an anti-Semitic person. Mel is not the only one that's had to go through this, even though he's going to bear a lot of the burden for it.

LAWTON: Caviezel says THE PASSION is not just for Christians.

Mr. CAVIEZEL: I believe this film is going to be great for all Jews, all Muslims, and anyone in America and the world. This is not just a religious film.

Still from THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST If you go to the Vatican and you look at Michelangelo's art, the "Pieta" -- of the Virgin holding the Son -- you don't have to be religious to understand that.

LAWTON: Still, Caviezel acknowledges that THE PASSION does raise deeply spiritual issues about the meaning of Jesus' suffering and death.

Mr. CAVIEZEL: This is my truth that I believe in. I'd ask people to respect that. I just want people to go and watch it, and whatever they come away with, whether they believe in it or not, they can still watch the film and take it as art, or whatever they want to do. To me, it's the greatest love story of all time. They may have a different angle on it.

LAWTON: Just what that angle is -- or should be -- has provoked an intense national debate. I'm Kim Lawton reporting.

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