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PROFILE:
Iraq Military Chaplain
October 22, 2004    Episode no. 808
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BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: Now, a profile of an American army chaplain in Iraq ministering to troops near Tikrit, Saddam Hussein's hometown. How does he think the mission is going? What do his troops say about the insurgency?

Captain Joseph Angotti is a 40-year-old Catholic priest who was home recently on leave in Evanston, Illinois. He spoke of his admiration for the troops he serves and of their dedication to their difficult task.

Photo of JOSEPH ANGOTTI Chaplain JOSEPH ANGOTTI (Captain, U.S. Army): They're good people to minister to because they sacrifice so much. They are very committed to what their goal is, what they are told their mission is. And they are ready to fulfill what they are asked to do.

ABERNETHY: But that mission, says the chaplain, is dangerous and frustrating.

Chaplain ANGOTTI: I have dealt with soldiers who have lost comrades. And there is a lot of grief and there is a lot of pain when things happen. And they, they very often want to pray. They want a sense that God has not abandoned them, that God is in their midst, and that's really what a chaplain is there to do, is to be a presence to them in those times.

ABERNETHY: How is the troops' morale?

Photo of soldier Chaplain ANGOTTI: Morale is fairly good. The circumstances they are in are difficult. Some of them feel like they are a gerbil on a wheel. When you are putting a lot of effort and work into something, you want to see things get better. And our soldiers right now do not have the blessing of seeing things get better. That can always change, but in the time we've been stationed in Iraq they have not gotten better.

ABERNETHY: And what do you tell them?

Chaplain ANGOTTI: I tell them that it is important not to despair. It is important to keep hope. I believe very strongly that prayer is important, that we have to pray, and that ultimately we are not in control of our destiny. Being in Iraq is a good place to learn how little control anybody really has. When soldiers ask me for Scripture, I find myself recommending the Book of Job quite a lot.

ABERNETHY: Angotti lives in heavily sandbagged quarters in one of the 1st Infantry Division's forward operating bases. Behind the barbed-wire perimeter is the Tigris River, and nearby is one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces. I asked the chaplain how the Iraq situation has changed in the eight months he has been there.

Chaplain ANGOTTI: I think that what people are hearing, and our president has said, there was a miscalculation in some of what has transpired. And as far as what I see, I would have to agree with the president on that particular point.

ABERNETHY: Gunfire?

Photo of Iraqis Chaplain ANGOTTI: The main miscalculation was the emergence of an insurgency, and apparently nobody thought that was going to happen. I am surprised, as everyone else is, at the magnitude of the insurgency and the Islamic fundamentalism that is emerging that wasn't there before. There is some bitterness about that, that there is an insurgency and that they are having to deal with it.

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One of the difficulties that soldiers come to me with is that they really want things to be better, they want Iraq to be a free country, and they want elections, and they want freedom for the people. And it is very frustrating when the elements in the country are there to prevent that from happening.

ABERNETHY: I asked the chaplain what soldiers tell him they need in order to finish their job, successfully.

Chaplain ANGOTTI: Soldiers are like Americans at large. There is not one opinion. Some think we need to use more force. Others think we need to use less. But what I think everyone would agree on is that we want our leaders to listen to our commanders who are there, who are on the ground, that it's not getting -- the information is not getting lost in a black hole somewhere. I think that is what we want most of all.

ABERNETHY: How do the troops you talk to feel about criticism of the war back home?

Photo of Angotti in Iraq Chaplain ANGOTTI: They don't take it personally. And there is always a distinction between, you know, the soldiers and the conflict. And I think most soldiers feel that they are being supported, even if people don't agree with the politics of the war and the occupation.

ABERNETHY: Much as he admires his troops, Chaplain Angotti also notes that soldiers in Iraq do not go to chapel as much as he has been told they did in other wars. This despite the danger.

Chaplain ANGOTTI: I thought it would change them because there is the saying that there are no atheists in a foxhole. And I find that that is not true, that even in a battle zone there is still a fairly large number that is not practicing a faith, at least by chapel attendance.

ABERNETHY: But Angotti says he feels fulfilled because he is there.

Photo of Angotti Chaplain ANGOTTI: The presence factor has made it very rewarding for me. I feel very useful and I feel needed. And one of the greatest things for me is just to, you know, in the morning to see soldiers and, you know, when they see you they smile, because the chaplain is the one that does not yell at them. I continue to be edified by the sacrifices that our soldiers make, that they are willing to make, that they are continuing to be willing to make, even when things aren't going well.

ABERNETHY: How do you feel now about going back?

Chaplain ANGOTTI: I'm ready to go back. I'm ready to do the ministry and to, you know, care for soldiers who need me.

ABERNETHY: Chaplain Angotti says he and his unit expect to be in Iraq until February, which will be one year since they arrived.

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