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INTERVIEW:
Rev. Deborah Morgan
July 1, 2005    Episode no. 844
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Read more of Bob Abernethy's interview with the Reverend Deborah Morgan, a United Methodist minister and senior clinical chaplain at Duke University Medical Center and a former counselor in the cancer patient support program:

Photo of DEBORAH MORGAN Chaplains are here to offer spiritual [and] religious support for patients and families. What does it look like when you knock on the door of a patient who hasn't met a chaplain? One of my goals would be to introduce myself [and] make sure that they are aware that the hospital values not only their body [and] health, though that's very important, but that we also value their spiritual well-being. That can be very broad. Sometimes there is a very specific religious need. They might want a rabbi, they might want a priest; sometimes they just need a good listening ear, and they appreciate that being someone who is respectful of their faith or spirituality. For other folks, it is much more distinct. They want Communion; they want one of the sacraments that their faith offers, and so it varies. And finally, there are some people who would not call themselves religious or spiritual, but they are trying to make meaning out of the suffering that has overwhelmed them. We see ourselves as being very available as good listeners for folks who are struggling to figure out, "What does it mean that my life is on hold for the moment, and I'm stuck in a hospital bed?"

[We do] a variety of things, and prayer is definitely a big one, often at the request of patients and families. Usually it is offered unless a patient has let me know that that's just not who they are in terms of their own background. I would offer to pray, and I would ask them what it was that they felt like they most needed. That would be our starting point.

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For thousands of years people of faith -- at least I can speak from the Christian tradition, which is mine -- have taken seriously the notion that God answers prayer. So we have prayed, and part of that prayer has had to do with healing. There has been a strong tradition of laying on of hands and sometimes anointing with oil. We take very seriously the possibility that God might choose to heal through prayer. I think there is also another side to it, and that is prayers not being answered. [One patient] desperately wanted to save her leg. She had a leg that was not healing, and the end point was not that her leg was healed. The end point was that she indeed had to have it amputated. But she was able to talk to us about the people in pre-op who came to pray for her, to offer her loving care, to acknowledge her suffering. And even though she didn't get what she wanted, which was to keep that leg -- and she was really clear about that -- she could still have a sense in which she felt that her prayer was answered.

I take seriously the healing power of prayer, but I would broaden that to include not just curing. Sometimes healing goes beyond that, and it means a person is empowered to keep moving, to get on with life even though they don't have a leg and to feel that God was present with them in a way that made it tolerable. I would broaden healing to include that, because that is the answer for many people who are in a hospital.

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