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INTERVIEW:
Rabbi David Saperstein
April 28, 2006    Episode no. 935
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Read RELIGION & ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY news associate producer Janice D'Arcy's April 26, 2006 interview with Rabbi David Saperstein, director of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism in Washington, D.C. and one of the organizers of the April 30th Save Darfur rally on the National Mall:

Photo of Rabbi David Saperstein Q: The mostly Muslim-on-Muslim violence in Darfur has been described as politically motivated. But the Save Darfur campaign is fueled by many religious communities, and many of their members are expected at the April 30th rally. What makes Darfur a faith issue?

A: There is an enormously wide consensus in the faith community that the mandate of Leviticus 19 -- "You shall not stand idly by the blood of your neighbor" -- requires that the faith community act. Add to that the sense of failure, from the Holocaust through Rwanda, of having really never made "never again" a reality in this world. When this came about, the faith community just said, "This time we have to speak out. We can't stand idly by while hundreds of people are dying or being killed. We can't stand by while thousands of women are being raped as a tool of war. We can't stand by while people in the camps are going to be dying of disease and hunger. We can't stand by while ethnic cleansing and genocidal activities [are] going on. We have to act."

Q: The Jewish community, in particular, responded early to the violence. You have been working on Darfur issues for more than two years. Why does this conflict seem to have such resonance in the Jewish community?

A: It gets etched on the hearts and the minds of every Jew in the world, what happened when good people stood by during the Holocaust, and the feeling "never again" is part of the communal Jewish psyche across the globe. So when we see genocidal activity happening and we can intervene, there's this feeling that we have to be at the front lines of this. I think that helps explain why in synagogues across America you see Darfur signs; synagogues are involved in building communal coalitions with the Christian community, the African-American community, and conservative evangelical communities across the country; and why, on a national level, you're hearing so many outspoken leaders on this issue, and why so many people behind organizing this rally on April 30, which will embrace the entire American people, came originally, primarily, from the Jewish community as well. We cannot stand idly by, and we won't do it here until the genocidal activities stop in Darfur.

Q: What are the demands of the Save Darfur campaign and rally?

A: The demands are focused on the end result. That is, the international community, led by the United States, has to ensure that this genocidal activity stops. There are a number of ways that this can be done: expansion of the African Union troops that are there; blue helmeting these troops; tripling the size of the peacekeeping forces; bringing in peacekeeping forces that are experienced from other UN peacekeeping efforts; using NATO air support to help enforce a no-fly zone; strengthening economic sanctions. We're not gathering to say there's one answer to this. We're gathering to say the international community today must act effectively to bring an end to this, and we will support whatever effective efforts are undertaken by the United Nations, the African Union, the United States of America.

Q: On April 25, the UN Security Council passed its first sanctions concerning Darfur against four Sudanese men accused of committing war crimes. Does that suggest the UN is beginning to take more forceful action?

A: Hopefully it does. There's a lot the UN can do right now. Even though the African Union has said they don't want the UN to take over peacekeeping efforts at this time, they'll revisit [that] in December.
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Eventually, it will require international cooperation. So the UN can identify where troops are going to come from, begin to line them up, set up the logistics so they're ready to move. They can even do some training, set up air support, and be ready to move the day there is permission for a more internationalized force. They need to act now.And they need to beef up the diplomatic efforts to bring a peaceful resolution to this the way they did in the civil war in the south. And that happened only when President Bush appointed John Danforth, a very high-level, internationally respected figure, to lead our efforts. We need to do the same here in the United States with the appointment of a personal presidential envoy of the first rank. And we hope that Kofi Annan will do a similar thing in appointing a major international figure to help negotiate an end to this genocidal activity.

Q: Who would you like to see appointed?

A: There are clearly past presidents of international organizations, major past premiers who would have international respect and trust, who would really make a difference. Someone really of the first order.

Q: How does the Save Darfur campaign come down on military intervention?

A: My guess is that 90-plus percent of the people involved in the coalition would support sending peacekeeping forces under international auspices such as the United Nations. The UN knows how to do that work and has experienced troops that it has drawn on in the past from a number of countries. That would include Muslim countries, whose participation would reduce a kind of West-versus-Muslim component that would be part of an international force coming from only European and North American countries. So there are successful models for this, and I think there would be enormous support and sympathy for those kind of forces.

Q: And what about U.S. military intervention?

A: I have not heard anyone talk about U.S.-only military intervention. Indeed, many people think there might not necessarily need to be U.S. troops [as] part of this peacekeeping force. The U.S. can help in terms of logistics and supplies and the training and the air support without having to have troops on the ground. It depends on the circumstances. What we want to see is the United Nations take the bit in their teeth and to run with this. We hope the sanctions are not a diversion from that, but a first step. If it is, it will have the support of the faith community across the globe.

Q: What happens after the April 30th rally? What's next for the campaign?

A: We're going to be calling on the faith community between now and the Jewish holiday Shavuot a month later to meet across America, with the consulates and UN embassies and Washington embassies of all of the African Union and NATO countries, to encourage them to take more vigorous and assertive steps and move toward a larger international peacekeeping force that can really protect innocent civilians in Darfur. And obviously we'll keep the pressure on Congress and our administration to really push, as it's been doing, the international community to reach some concrete decisions on how we're going to act. All those pieces will be the key agenda in the months to come.

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