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Bill Moyers on Faith and Reason
June 16, 2006    Episode no. 942
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BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: Around the world, a lot of news is related to religious fundamentalism - absolute belief in the truth of one religion against the truths of everyone else. Recently, Bill Moyers interviewed 11 well-known writers on their views of how people of different faiths can coexist in peace. Those conversations begin on many PBS stations next Friday night, June 23, with the first of a series called Bill Moyers on Faith and Reason. Bill joins us from New York. Bill, welcome.

BILL MOYERS (Journalist and Host, "Bill Moyers on Faith and Reason"): Thank you, Bob.

ABERNETHY: Why do so many of your writers think that fundamentalism is so dangerous?

Photo of Moyers Mr. MOYERS: Because fundamentalism can lead to 9/11. It can lead to politics that settle nothing, in which all of us go for the other's throats and we have holy wars, in effect, in the political square instead of compromise about how to solve our common problems. They think closed minds lead to closed societies, with everyone on the outside except those who are true believers.

ABERNETHY: Of course, fundamentalism for one person can be seen by another as faithfulness to God's truth. Did your writers think that reason and debate could change that?

Mr. MOYERS: Well, they think it could temper it - not with the fundamentalist extremists, of course, because people who think they know the mind of God don't want to listen to people who think that maybe we can't know the mind of God. But they do believe that if we can move beyond the boundaries, if we can make it faith and reason, not faith versus reason, then we can avoid the kind of extremes that we've been experiencing in a world divided between the religious and the secular.

ABERNETHY: And did the people you talked to have any recommendations about how we can do that?

Photo of Moyers Mr. MOYERS: Well, yes. They're not trying to save anybody or convert anyone, but they do believe that by lowering our voices and listening to one another - even if we don't agree - we might be able to communicate more effectively than if we just listened with closed minds and closed ears.

ABERNETHY: What did they think the greatest divisions right now are between faith and reason?

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Mr. MOYERS: Well, it's between those who believe that in their sacred texts they actually have the living word of God for which there can be no debate and about which there can be no compromise, versus those of us who believe that religion is a conversation, and that we're continuing to learn as we go along and that the mind can never be closed off to new evidence and new proof. I think they really see the great divide between those who say we have the proof that we know the mind of God and those who say that faith requires no proof.

Photo of Moyers ABERNETHY: And the message is, perhaps, there's no unavoidable conflict between faith and reason?

Mr. MOYERS: Well, there is an unavoidable conflict because faith doesn't require proof and reason wants evidence and proof. But if we can respect the fact that you can not believe in religion and yet believe that religious believers are sincere, or you can be an agnostic or an atheist without wanting religion to disappear, then they think there's the beginning of a new discussion.

ABERNETHY: Bill, many thanks. The series Bill Moyers on Faith and Reason begins next Friday (June 23). Did you like this story? How can we improve our program or Web site?
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