In this excerpt from the Independent Lens film Look & See: Wendell Berry’s Kentucky, small farmers in Kentucky talk about the challenges–financial and otherwise–of staying afloat in today’s world. Owing the banks and corporations so much money these farmers don’t see a way into the black. Interwoven with this is a look (with help from his daughter Mary) at how in the ’70s writer Wendell Berry butted heads with US Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz, who was a major proponent of the industrialization of farming. Berry sees these small farmers as “not isolated as simply a component of a production machine [but standing] where lots of lines cross. Cultural lines.”