{"id":22288,"date":"2021-04-19T16:39:51","date_gmt":"2021-04-19T23:39:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/?post_type=blog&#038;p=22288"},"modified":"2023-08-24T16:24:21","modified_gmt":"2023-08-24T23:24:21","slug":"philly-da-filmmakers-captured-history-for-epic-docuseries","status":"publish","type":"blog","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/blog\/philly-da-filmmakers-captured-history-for-epic-docuseries\/","title":{"rendered":"How the Team Behind &#8220;Philly D.A.&#8221; Captured History for Epic Docuseries"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Philadelphia-based filmmakers Ted Passon and Yoni Brook, and producer Nicole Salazar, had to work as a well-oiled machine team to make an epic docuseries like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/documentaries\/philly-da\/\"><em><strong>Philly D.A.<\/strong> <\/em><\/a>happen. Each one is an award-winning producer in their own right: Brook has twice won a Film Independent Spirit Award and co-directed the epic doc <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/documentaries\/calling\/\"><em>The Calling<\/em><\/a> and directed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/documentaries\/sonssacrifice\/\"><em>A Son&#8217;s Sacrifice<\/em><\/a> for PBS, which won Best Documentary Short at the Tribeca Film Festival; Salazar has been a producer and journalist for Democracy Now! and the Emmy-winning series <em>Fault Line<\/em> for Al Jazeera; and Passon, who was a Sundance Fellow, directed two episodes of the Netflix series <em>Worn Stories<\/em>. It took all their collective energies and abilities to produce such an ambitious, wide-ranging series.<\/p>\n<p>Originally envisioned as possibly a feature-length film, the project quickly evolved into a sprawling, multi-character eight-part series<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> embedded inside the long-shot election and tumultuous first term of Larry Krasner, Philadelphia&#8217;s unapologetic District Attorney, and his experiment to upend the criminal justice system from the inside out. In those eight episodes, <em>Philly D.A.<\/em> covers<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> the most pressing social issues of our time\u2014police brutality, the opioid crisis, gun violence, and mass incarceration\u2014through the lens of an idealistic team attempting a fundamental overhaul from within the system.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>After watching the first quarter of <em>Philly D.A.<\/em>, TV critic Daniel Fienberg wrote in<em> The Hollywood Reporter<\/em> that the &#8220;first two episodes mark an extraordinarily promising start for the series, which boasts impressive access to Larry Krasner&#8217;s Philadelphia district attorney&#8217;s office and a nuanced approach that works hard to give this specific situation universal ripples.&#8221; <em>Vulture<\/em>&#8216;s Kathryn VanArendonk called <em>Philly D.A.<\/em> &#8220;the second coming of\u00a0<em>The Wire<\/em>, in docuseries form.&#8221; <em>TIME<\/em> magazine called it\u00a0\u201can essential, remarkably balanced\u00a0<i data-removefontsize=\"true\" data-originalcomputedfontsize=\"14.666666984558105\">v\u00e9rit\u00e9<\/i>-style account&#8230; packed with details that will surely be invaluable to policy makers, activists and academics.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The trio behind <em>Philly D.A.<\/em> talked to us what inspired them to want to tackle this story, how they got such intimate access, and why PBS is the perfect home for it.<\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Answers are by the team when not otherwise specified.]<\/span><\/i><!--more--><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_22893\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22893\" class=\"size-full wp-image-22893\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Yoni-on-18-1.jpg\" alt=\"Yoni Brook precariously, filming of &quot;Philly D.A.&quot; awkwardly positioned in doorway with camera\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Yoni-on-18-1.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Yoni-on-18-1-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Yoni-on-18-1-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Yoni-on-18-1-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Yoni-on-18-1-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-22893\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Yoni Brook precariously filming &#8220;Philly D.A.&#8221; (Credit: Ted Passon)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>What inspired you to make this series?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Ted:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Three of my family members\u2014my brother, cousin, and uncle\u2014were all incarcerated at different points when I was young. It really complicated my childhood notion of prison being for \u201cbad people\u201d when I believed my family members were all good people who had made bad decisions. As I got older I began to understand that they all suffered trauma in their lives that impacted their decisions, and it seemed to me that prison failed to address those underlying issues.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I also began to understand that my family members, who are white, were privileged with benefits from the system, including shorter sentences. I realized the system was fundamentally racist. When I got involved in activism as an adult, Larry Krasner represented friends of mine who were arrested at protests. If you\u2019re going to do civil disobedience it\u2019s common to write a lawyer\u2019s number on your arm in sharpie in case you get arrested.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In Philadelphia Larry\u2019s number got written on a lot of arms. I had never actually met him until 2017 when I learned he was throwing his hat in the ring to run for District Attorney. It was hilarious! It didn\u2019t seem at all possible that someone with his policy proposals and brash rhetoric could win. I knew there was a story in such longshot odds.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When he actually <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">did <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">win it was shocking, and it was obvious that the real story to be told was what would happen next. Most films about political candidates end on election night, but we wanted to know what was going to happen when he took over the institution that he had been fighting for over 30 years.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How one creates change in the world is a crucial question in these times, and we suddenly found ourselves with a front-row seat to record what might be a historic attempt at making change in the criminal justice system\u2014or a total failure.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_22894\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22894\" class=\"size-full wp-image-22894\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/BTS-PDA-nicole-phillyda-police-1.jpg\" alt=\"Nicole Salazar, at left, filming Captain Rodriguez and Philly Police\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/BTS-PDA-nicole-phillyda-police-1.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/BTS-PDA-nicole-phillyda-police-1-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/BTS-PDA-nicole-phillyda-police-1-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/BTS-PDA-nicole-phillyda-police-1-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/BTS-PDA-nicole-phillyda-police-1-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-22894\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nicole Salazar, at left, filming Captain Rodriguez and Philly Police (Credit: Yoni Brook)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>Yoni:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> We first saw Larry Krasner speak in 2017, then a candidate for District Attorney in Philly. To see this defense attorney so forcefully critique the criminal justice system at a time when it was quite radical to do so was both jarring and exhilarating. Krasner was arguing for a kind of systemic change that seemed impossible in the face of vast institutional inertia.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We had to find out how far he would go, where it would all lead, and if this reform he was speaking of was actually attainable. By capturing all of this, we thought if nothing else, we could document people attempting change in real-time, whatever the outcome\u2014sweeping success, cautionary tale, or something in between.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Nicole: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After working so hard to gain access to these rooms where decisions were being made that impacted the lives of so many people we realized that we had the opportunity to bring the public into an institution they had never gotten to really see before. We felt a responsibility to the material that we were capturing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A film would simply not do right to the richness of the content we had worked so hard to get. It became clear this had to be a series, one that depicted the wide range of power and discretion held by the D.A.\u2019s office, the applications of that power, and the ways it impacts people.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>How did you secure such wide-ranging access to the District Attorney\u2019s office?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Everybody told us Krasner was crazy for allowing us in the door of the DA\u2019s office\u2014it\u2019s a place known for secrecy. The ACLU refers to the D.A.\u2019s office as the \u201cblack box\u201d of the criminal justice system. As a career civil rights attorney, Krasner had no idea how to be the D.A. when he took office in 2018. We didn\u2019t know how to make a series about a sprawling bureaucracy. We were both new at our jobs. <pullquote class='left'>&#8220;We became part of the furniture.&#8221;<\/pullquote><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Our only plan was to just start filming and take it one day at a time. After his inauguration, we filmed him walking into the D.A.\u2019s office for the first time, and then we just kept coming back every day. We never had an official press pass or even a designated minder. We became part of the furniture. We worked as a small team, no more than two people, one of us was shooting and another recording sound, and we just started talking to people and building relationships.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We always tried to make it clear that this was more than just a portrait of Krasner. The series is a way to show audiences around the U.S.\u2014most of whom are probably unfamiliar with what a D.A. even does\u2014the nuts and bolts of an institution that dictates a substantial amount of local policymaking.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We captured a wide range of perspectives and developed relationships with prosecutors in Larry\u2019s office, his staff, law enforcement officials, judges, victims of crime, and people who had been directly impacted by incarceration or over-policing.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While we were in the DA\u2019s office seeing decisions being made we wanted to make sure we could spend time with people who were being impacted by those decisions in as many parts of the system as possible. We felt a tremendous responsibility to everybody who shared their lives with us on camera.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_22299\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22299\" class=\"size-full wp-image-22299\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/PHILLYDA_EP106_Thumbnail.jpg\" alt=\"Mike Lee and Maria Quinones Sanchez, in Philly D.A.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/PHILLYDA_EP106_Thumbnail.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/PHILLYDA_EP106_Thumbnail-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/PHILLYDA_EP106_Thumbnail-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/PHILLYDA_EP106_Thumbnail-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/PHILLYDA_EP106_Thumbnail-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-22299\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mike Lee and Maria Quinones Sanchez, in Philly D.A.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Cameras are forbidden in Philly courtrooms. At first, we assumed that meant our documentary would lack drama, but we decided to lean into the drama that goes on behind the scenes of the courtroom that the public never sees, the policymaking and political jockeying that is the real aspect of criminal justice that \u201ccourtroom dramas\u201d can\u2019t capture.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Krasner told us he was open to filming because he wanted people to be able to imagine themselves doing what he was doing. It was his hope that if people could observe the ins and outs of the D.A.\u2019s job it would demystify the office and encourage people to learn about their local D.A. and become politically involved.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><strong>Yoni:<\/strong> I think part of what made the series have depth is that this was happening in our backyard. We could build on the fact that we could just create a lot of time on this in chunks. People think about making films and they think about hopping on an airplane and going to the next important story. A lot of the time, these stories are happening in your own backyard\u2014you know every issue that plays out in Philadelphia is not that unique to Philadelphia. Philadelphia has its own twist on them, of course.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Nicole, for her part, moved to Philadelphia for several years to join the crew and film that way. I do think that&#8217;s something I learned about making films is that sometimes it&#8217;s not about going to the sexiest place, it&#8217;s actually just looking with a microscope at what&#8217;s around you.<\/p>\n<p><b>Were there any agreements between the filmmakers and the D.A. in terms of editorial approval or control?<\/b><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes, the agreement was we would have complete editorial control. In fact, Krasner and his staff have still not seen the full series. However, we take the generosity of any subject appearing on camera seriously. We never recorded surreptitiously. We didn\u2019t use lavalier mics, just a boom which would be roving overtly as we recorded and we always had the camera\u2019s tally lamp engaged. That way people understood exactly when they were being recorded.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There were moments that, by law, we couldn\u2019t film or observe, and other more rare moments when we were told to turn the camera off, and we always respected that. We felt a tremendous responsibility to capture nuances and avoid making any participant seem like a villain, whether we agreed with their stances personally or not.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We made an effort to get to know people that Krasner disagreed with\u2014whether former prosecutors or police officers. It was important for us to uncover the human story about what it takes to make change underneath the policies and the politics.<\/span><\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Philly D.A. | First Look | Independent Lens | PBS\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zFoAQMXKUB0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p><b>What impact do you hope the series makes on viewers?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There are thousands of district attorneys across the country, many of whom are incumbents that run for office unchallenged. More and more that is changing\u2014Krasner is just one of a growing number of progressives who have run and won elections in recent years. But if you care about a balanced criminal justice system you should know who your local prosecutor is.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They aren\u2019t just the government official who shows up on the evening news when there\u2019s a high-profile crime. They\u2019re elected policymakers with a tremendous amount of power. This series is for anyone who wants to understand the pressure points in the system to make change.<\/span><\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Philly D.A. Official Trailer #2 | Independent Lens | PBS\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/81RtcGa6lvg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p><b>What are the elements of the series that make it relevant on a national basis, not just as a local series about the DA\u2019s office in Philadelphia?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The city of Philadelphia is a specific lens, but the issues at stake in the stories we follow are in contention all around the country. Mass incarceration, the lack of accountability in policing, systemic racism in the legal system, the debate over how resources are best spent to achieve public safety\u2014are questions being raised in every community. <pullquote class='left'>&#8220;We had the opportunity to bring the public into an institution they had never gotten to really see before.&#8221;<\/pullquote><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The series also raises questions that are universal. What is the role of punishment in the justice system? Should we be defined by our worst mistakes? How do we make change? What is justice? We hope <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Philly D.A. <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">will contribute to these conversations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Why do you think public media is the best platform for premiering this series?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tackling a public institution like the District Attorney\u2019s office with a sitting political figure at its center demands significant trust from viewers. PBS and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Independent Lens <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">have built that trust among audiences with their commitment to rigorous storytelling and willingness to engage in difficult conversations. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They also provide the will and the infrastructure to bring those conversations directly to communities across the country via the neighborhood and virtual screening series, Indie Lens Pop-Up. We hope the community-driven conversations those screenings spark will resonate with audiences all over the country.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Philadelphia-based filmmakers Ted Passon and Yoni Brook, and producer Nicole Salazar, had to work as a well-oiled machine team to make an epic docuseries like Philly D.A. happen. 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