{"id":25004,"date":"2022-02-11T13:42:21","date_gmt":"2022-02-11T21:42:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/?post_type=blog&#038;p=25004"},"modified":"2023-02-27T20:59:11","modified_gmt":"2023-02-27T20:59:11","slug":"how-incarceration-affects-mothers-and-their-children","status":"publish","type":"blog","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/blog\/how-incarceration-affects-mothers-and-their-children\/","title":{"rendered":"How Incarceration Affects Mothers and Their Children"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b>Jennifer Redfearn<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, an Oscar-nominated director and producer (<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sun Come Up<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) and current director of the documentary program at UC Berkeley\u2019s Graduate School of Journalism, made the documentary <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/documentaries\/apart\/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Apart<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014with producer\/cinematographer Tim Metzger\u2014with the hope that &#8220;the film encourages audiences to grapple with how incarceration impacts mothers, children, families, and, as a result, entire communities.&#8221; It&#8217;s the powerfully personal story of three unforgettable, formerly incarcerated mothers, plus their support group leader, also a formerly incarcerated woman. These women were jailed for drug-related charges, fought to overcome alienation, and are now trying to readjust back to life with their families. But between shaking off the label of &#8220;felon&#8221; and ingratiating themselves with their loved ones, it&#8217;s far from an easy road.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8220;<em>Apart<\/em> puts a humanizing face on a population often badly stereotyped as only volatile and dangerous, a la <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Orange is the New Black<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">,&#8221; wrote Susan Cole for Canada&#8217;s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">POV Magazine<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.\u00a0 Adds Ulkar Alakbarova of MoviesMoveMe, &#8220;Director Jennifer Redfearn delivers an honest portrayal of three incarcerated women\u2018s life stories in the most nuanced way. It\u2019s touching, uplifting, and even inspiring.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We talked to Redfearn about how she was able to get such intimate access to these women and their children to tell this story, about the challenges of filming in prison, as well as an update on how the women are doing now.<\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><b>What inspired you to want to make this film, to tell this particular story?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">First, I had read the shocking stats about women in prison. The War on Drugs has had a devastating impact on women, and it\u2019s something that\u2019s not talked about enough. Since 1980, the number of incarcerated women has grown by over 800 percent. And this disproportionately impacts Black and Latina\/Latinx women. As someone passionate about women\u2019s issues, I found these numbers shocking, and I wanted to know more.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Then, I learned about a new reentry program for incarcerated women in Ohio\u2014a state with record numbers of women in prison\u2014run by a nonprofit organization and led by women like Malika, who have the lived experience to help women transition home from prison.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_25015\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-25015\" class=\"size-full wp-image-25015\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-Malika.jpg\" alt=\"Malika Kidd, reentry program manager at Cleveland's Lutheran Metropolitan Ministry\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-Malika.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-Malika-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-Malika-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-Malika-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-Malika-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-25015\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Malika Kidd, reentry program manager at Cleveland&#8217;s Lutheran Metropolitan Ministry<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I was so moved by the women\u2019s stories\u2014they were at once heartbreaking, and infuriating. A big part of the drug war has been harsh sentencing. Tomika, who shares her story in the film, was threatened with 32 years for trafficking ecstasy and marijuana. By pleading guilty, she was able to get it reduced but was still stuck with a mandatory minimum ten-year sentence when her daughter was only nine months old.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Malika, the woman who now runs the reentry program, was formerly incarcerated. She\u2018d been arrested when her boyfriend was pulled over and police found cocaine in the trunk of his car. Malika was a passenger in her boyfriend\u2019s car\u2014she wasn\u2019t a drug dealer, yet she was sentenced to 14 years and missed out on her son\u2019s entire childhood. So, these are incredibly harsh and unjust sentences and part of mandatory minimum sentencing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Although incarceration rates remain higher for Black and Latina\/Latinx women than for white women, incarceration has been on the rise for white women, which reports say is connected to the opioid epidemic. The other two women we meet in the film, Amanda and Lydia, became addicted to drugs and were incarcerated due to drug-related charges.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And so the film looks at all of this while focusing on how drug sentencing and incarceration profoundly impact women and their children.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_25006\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-25006\" class=\"wp-image-25006 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/apart-redfearn-metzger-compositeheadshot.jpg\" alt=\"Director-producer Jennifer Redfearn, and cinematographer-producer Tim Metzger left to right (Tim Holds camera on his shoulder and headphones around neck)\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/apart-redfearn-metzger-compositeheadshot.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/apart-redfearn-metzger-compositeheadshot-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/apart-redfearn-metzger-compositeheadshot-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/apart-redfearn-metzger-compositeheadshot-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/apart-redfearn-metzger-compositeheadshot-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-25006\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Director-producer Jennifer Redfearn, and cinematographer-producer Tim Metzger<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>What do you hope PBS audiences take away from seeing <\/b><b><i>Apart<\/i><\/b><b>?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I made the film because I\u2019d like the audience to confront this side of incarceration. Malika missed 14 years of her son\u2019s life, Tomika missed nine years of Bailee\u2019s life, Amanda missed seven+ with Tyler, and Lydia lost 2 1\/2\u00a0 years with her family. I hope the film encourages audiences to clearly see how incarceration impacts mothers and their children.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I hope that mothers whose lives have been upended by our nation\u2019s punitive system find more support. In the long term, how do we reimagine justice in this country? I hope the film can be a part of that conversation and effort.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>What were some of the challenges you faced while filming in a prison?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When we meet the women in the film, they\u2019re still incarcerated at a minimum-security prison in Cleveland. But, a small group of women, including the women in the film, join a new reentry program outside of the prison walls. The reentry program is run by a nonprofit, not part of the Department of Corrections. We first got access to film at the reentry program, and then through those relationships met with people at the prison and requested access to film there.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Every time we filmed in the prison, we had a minder (Public Information Officer) and there were parts of the prison that were off-limits. One of the biggest challenges we faced had to do with the logistical hurdles of filming in a prison environment, including gaining permission to film over the 3 1\/2-year production period while personnel and politics shifted in the background.<\/span><\/p>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-25009 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-lydia-hug.jpg\" alt=\"Lydia shares a hug when leaving prison\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-lydia-hug.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-lydia-hug-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-lydia-hug-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-lydia-hug-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-lydia-hug-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/>\n<p><b>To make a film this intimate requires such personal access. How did you get the women featured in <\/b><b><i>Apart<\/i><\/b><b> to trust your process?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Since the women were outside of the prison and in the reentry program most weekdays, we were able to spend time with them (without filming) and develop trust. We also treated consent as an open, ongoing conversation\u2014we would talk about what we wanted to film and why. And we always encouraged them to share any concerns. Women in prison are stripped of their agency and so it was critical to me that they always knew they could say no to filming.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Apart<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is a unique look at women in prison because we were able to film while they were still incarcerated, but in a space where they were free to express themselves without surveillance. Tomika and Amanda would often say, \u201cI\u2019m an open book\u2014you can ask me anything.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lydia talked about being profoundly embarrassed about being in prison, but said she felt it was important to learn how to talk about and own her experience despite the shame. All of the women showed such great courage when sharing their stories and experiences with us.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Were there any scenes that you had to cut for time but you&#8217;d like people to know about? And do you have a favorite moment in <\/b><b><i>Apart<\/i><\/b><b>?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hmm, tough question. One of my favorite scenes was Amanda\u2019s final meeting with her counselor, the day before being released. It\u2019s a powerful and frank conversation that shows both her excitement and also her deep fears and nervousness about getting out and starting over. Though the scene itself is powerful, we ultimately decided to cut it so the audience could experience the full momentum and emotion of her release day.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There&#8217;s a scene in the film where Tomika tells her daughter Bailee that she&#8217;s in prison, not in college. That scene shows how heartbreaking incarceration is for young children. And, it also reveals that when our society incarcerates a mother, the whole family suffers, especially the children. Bailee was only nine months old when Tomika was sent to prison.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So what do you tell a child? When do you tell her the truth, and how do you break it to her? And how do you rebuild trust, if trust is broken, when you&#8217;re stuck inside where communication is so difficult and expensive? It was a very tough moment, of course, for Tomika and Bailee. It has a profound impact on me every time I watch it in the film.<\/span><\/p>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25010\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lydia-van.jpg\" alt=\"Lydia (left) and Amanda behind her, in a prison van\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lydia-van.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lydia-van-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lydia-van-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lydia-van-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lydia-van-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/>\n<p><b>On that topic, could you talk a little more about the impact the children in the film<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014<\/span><b>the children of these incarcerated women<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014<\/span><b>had on the story?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In the film, we see the anger, the hurt, and the heartache the children feel. We waited for the children to get a little older before we interviewed them. I wasn\u2019t sure how the interviews would go, but the children were so clear and expressive.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When we interviewed Tyler, he said about Amanda, \u201cI can&#8217;t see her as much as I&#8217;d like, and I can&#8217;t talk to her as much as I&#8217;d like, and it just makes me hurt.\u201d That last line floored me\u2014you can see the pain on his brave young face and it was such an honest, candid answer from a young boy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The women on average saw their children 3 to 4 times a year. There\u2019s only one women\u2019s minimum security prison in Ohio, and the prison is far from where their families live. Tomika\u2019s daughter Bailee was a 4 to 5-hour drive away, and Tyler was a 3 to 4-hour drive away. Lydia\u2019s family had a 2 to 3-hour drive. A similar situation faces families all across the U.S. and it can be a huge hardship to make the journey, especially for families who are struggling financially.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So I think another important piece of this is the hardship faced by the children and the support they need to recover from the trauma caused by separation.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_25007\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-25007\" class=\"wp-image-25007 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-tomika-daughter.jpg\" alt=\"Tomika has a heart to heart talk with her daughter, in Apart\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-tomika-daughter.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-tomika-daughter-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-tomika-daughter-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-tomika-daughter-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-tomika-daughter-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-25007\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tomika has a heart to heart talk with her daughter, in Apart<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>Knowing all the incredible challenges they must continually run up against, do you have any updates on the women featured in <\/b><b><i>Apart<\/i><\/b><b> that you can share?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Restarting from scratch, finding a job and stable housing are already tough challenges for anyone returning from incarceration, let alone during a pandemic. Like most Americans, the women in this film have had a difficult time during COVID-19. But with significant support, they are doing well.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Amanda received another promotion at her job. Her son still lives with his grandparents several hours away, but their relationship is stronger now. But the biggest news is that she\u2019s fallen in love and has a beautiful baby daughter.<\/span><\/p>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-25008 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lookingoff.jpg\" alt=\"Amanda looks out window while in prison\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lookingoff.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lookingoff-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lookingoff-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lookingoff-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Apart-amanda-lookingoff-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tomika\u2019s relationship with her daughter is also stronger, and Bailee is excelling in school. Tomika is still working multiple jobs to support the family, and she still dreams of opening a new restaurant one day. But in the meantime, she got her commercial driver\u2019s license and started a trucking company, which she named for her daughter: Bailee\u2019s Logistics.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lydia is working two jobs and continues to look after her two boys and her husband Derek, who thankfully is still doing well. She told us she aspires to one day become an addiction counselor like Cheryl.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Malika, mentor to Amanda, Tomika, and Lydia, still works with the prison and oversees the reentry program at Lutheran Metropolitan Ministry where she\u2019s been promoted to program director of workforce development. During the pandemic, she was part of a massive effort to feed and safely house Cleveland\u2019s homeless, and she continues to advocate on behalf of incarcerated women. She\u2019s also working on her MBA degree and plans to one day start her own nonprofit.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"pbs-viral-player-wrapper\" style=\"position: relative; padding-top: calc(56.25% + 43px);\"><iframe src=\"https:\/\/player.pbs.org\/viralplayer\/3058286637\/\" allowfullscreen allow=\"encrypted-media\" style=\"position: absolute; top: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; border: 0;\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><b>Any favorite documentaries that influenced you while you were making <\/b><b><i>Apart<\/i><\/b><b>?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here are two that are on my mind lately. Garrett Bradley\u2019s stunning feature, <\/span><b><i>Time<\/i><\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, inspires me for its visually and emotionally rich storytelling and elegant use of music. It\u2019s also boldly pushing the art form (as did her short film <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Alone<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) while powerfully confronting injustice and loss. Another film I want to mention is Barbara Kopple\u2019s classic, <\/span><b><i>Harlan County, USA<\/i><\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Being there, day in and day out, with the striking miners allowed Kopple and her crew to bring us an insider\u2019s view into their lived experiences. And when the foreman, who violently threatens the strikers, tries to intimidate her, she holds firm and keeps filming. It\u2019s a striking example of courageous filmmaking and a remarkable work of art, just as vital now as it was 45 years ago.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em><strong>MORE:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>NPR feature on the film and filmmaker Jennifer Redfearn<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"NPR embedded audio player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/player\/embed\/1082121671\/1082162956\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"APART :: Filmmaker Conversations Presented by PNC\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5pQA6AjBo7E?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jennifer Redfearn, an Oscar-nominated director and producer (Sun Come Up) and current director of the documentary program at UC Berkeley\u2019s Graduate School of Journalism, made the documentary Apart\u2014with producer\/cinematographer Tim Metzger\u2014with the hope that &#8220;the film encourages audiences to grapple with how incarceration impacts mothers, children, families, and, as a result, entire communities.&#8221; It&#8217;s the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":25012,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1357,938],"tags":[1289],"topic":[1245,1257,1227],"class_list":["post-25004","blog","type-blog","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-beyond-the-films","category-interviews","tag-filmmaker-interview","topic-crime","topic-law-administration","topic-women-and-girls"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - 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