{"id":25207,"date":"2022-04-18T16:05:49","date_gmt":"2022-04-18T23:05:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/?post_type=blog&#038;p=25207"},"modified":"2023-02-27T20:49:08","modified_gmt":"2023-02-27T20:49:08","slug":"investigating-the-mysteries-of-consciousness","status":"publish","type":"blog","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/blog\/investigating-the-mysteries-of-consciousness\/","title":{"rendered":"Investigating the Mysteries of Consciousness"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/documentaries\/aware-glimpses-of-consciousness\/\"><b><i>AWARE: Glimpses of Consciousness<\/i><\/b><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is the fourth film collaboration between <\/span><b>Eric Black and Frauke Sandig<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, who are based in San Francisco and Berlin respectively, but managed to collaborate on a film that involved traveling both around the globe and through the deepest realms of human consciousness. <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AWARE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> follows six uniquely brilliant researchers\u2014a brain scientist, a plant behaviorist, a healer, a philosophy professor, a psychedelics scientist, and a Buddhist monk\u2014who investigate the seemingly inexplicable mysteries of consciousness. With eye-popping visuals appropriate for this mind-blowing journey, and an ethereal score by cellist\/composer Zo\u00eb Keating, the film manages to balance on the tightrope between science and more mystical elements.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The film asks and attempts to answer questions like: What is consciousness? Is it in all living beings? And what happens when we die?\u00a0<\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8220;Ultimately, we get a touching portrait of a variety of different human beings all circling around the fascinating, perhaps unsolvable, problem of the mind,&#8221; wrote Bilge Ebiri for <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Spirituality &amp; Health<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Adds Valerie Kalfrin of Alliance of Women Film Journalist\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Women on Film<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AWARE <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">is &#8220;<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">a heady experience\u2014dare I say spiritual?\u2014that stirs feelings of awe and wonder, humility and connection. It&#8217;s a remarkable film.&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The filmmaking duo\u2014whose <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After the Fall, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">about the fall of the Berlin Wall, and mesmerizing <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/documentaries\/frozenangels\/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Frozen Angels<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> both aired on PBS\u2014talk about what led them to explore this heady topic, how they approached it, if the film is political, and those trippy psychedelic mushroom studies.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(Replies are from both filmmakers collectively unless noted.)<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_25210\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-25210\" class=\"size-full wp-image-25210\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Roland-Griffiths-Bubbles.jpg\" alt=\"psychedelics researcher Roland Griffiths surrounded by bubbles\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Roland-Griffiths-Bubbles.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Roland-Griffiths-Bubbles-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Roland-Griffiths-Bubbles-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Roland-Griffiths-Bubbles-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Roland-Griffiths-Bubbles-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-25210\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Psychedelics researcher Roland Griffiths<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>How did the ambitious idea to make a film about consciousness come to you?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The nature of consciousness, the idea behind <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AWARE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, came directly from our experience on the first film in our trilogy, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Heart of Sky, Heart of Earth<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> where we worked for three years with the indigenous Maya in Chiapas and Guatemala. Their deep spirituality where everything in nature is sacred, alive, and animate, stands in deep contrast to our Western capitalist worldview that sees nature as natural resources, objects to be exploited.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When one of our protagonists, a Mayan spiritual leader, reproached us during an interview, saying, &#8220;You white people always see everyone as separate: here the house, the tree, the animal, there you. In the Indigenous world, everything is always <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">connected<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">,&#8221; she provoked us to turn our camera around and examine our own beliefs about nature and consciousness. This journey brought us to <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AWARE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>What do you want viewers to take away from <\/b><b><i>AWARE<\/i><\/b><b>? Who do you hope it impacts the most?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Eric<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: It may be strange to say but answering for myself, I would hope it would impact \u201cpeople like me,\u201d people who have a deep love and appreciation of science yet hunger for a deeper connection to the spiritual. At the start of our research into consciousness, the idea there was a space of \u201cpure awareness\u201d was not something I had truly entertained or ever thought I would hear myself say. It was Roland Griffiths\u2019 Johns Hopkins psilocybin studies that really pulled me in, while counterintuitively, they were most shocking to my own sensibility.\u00a0 [<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">See more on this below.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">]<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_25211\" style=\"width: 1610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-25211\" class=\"wp-image-25211 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-FraukeSandig.jpg\" alt=\"AWARE: glimpse of consciousness Filmmaker Frauke Sandig\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1202\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-FraukeSandig.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-FraukeSandig-600x451.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-FraukeSandig-1200x902.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-FraukeSandig-768x577.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-FraukeSandig-1536x1154.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-25211\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">AWARE Filmmaker Frauke Sandig (not pictured: co-director Eric Black)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>For a complicated undertaking that <\/b><b><i>AWARE<\/i><\/b><b> must have been, what were some of the biggest challenges you faced in making it?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At the beginning: financing. At the end: the pandemic created a situation where there was no place to show it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>How did you tackle researching such a large and complex topic? A lot of reading? Outside advice? How long did you spend researching?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Frauke<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: We researched for several years, read a lot, attended conferences and retreats, and considered and rejected various concepts. Through research on the internet, we found most of the protagonists, then read books by them and about them.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>What criteria did you use to ultimately choose the people who &#8220;star&#8221; in <\/b><b><i>AWARE<\/i><\/b><b>?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Frauke<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: We were looking for protagonists who were open to spirituality, but still firmly anchored in science. Except for [neuroscientist] Christof Koch, we didn&#8217;t want purely esoteric or purely materialistic perspectives, as we felt it would only serve the commonly known polarized positions and not lead to new insights.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What surprised us, as Eric says, was how close the positions of the protagonists came [to each other] in the end. All of them were very open to working with us right from the start. The plant researcher Monica Gagliano even immediately offered to come to us in Berlin, as she was then currently on a lecture tour in Europe in part with Jane Goodall. We had originally considered also exploring animal consciousness more in the film, but then found plant research to be the more surprising and newer field.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_25212\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-25212\" class=\"wp-image-25212 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Pavlov-diagram.jpg\" alt=\"woman in lab coat drawing on white board\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Pavlov-diagram.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Pavlov-diagram-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Pavlov-diagram-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Pavlov-diagram-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Pavlov-diagram-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-25212\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Plant researcher Monica Gagliano, with Pavlov&#8217;s Pea Diagram<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>Do you have a scene in <\/b><b><i>AWARE<\/i><\/b><b> that is especially a favorite or made the most impact on you?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Rick Boothby\u2019s encounter with God during his psilocybin experience at Johns Hopkins University and Monica Gagliano talking at the ocean\u2019s edge about the nature of mystical experiences.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Those <\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/hub.jhu.edu\/magazine\/2017\/fall\/roland-griffiths-magic-mushrooms-experiment-psilocybin-depression\/\"><b>Roland Griffiths\/Johns Hopkins psilocybin studies<\/b><\/a><b> occupy a relatively large space in the film. Was that part of the concept from the beginning? How did this aspect develop during the course of work on the film?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Eric:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Answering for myself, part of the explanation has been part of my own personal journey. At the start of our research into consciousness, the idea that there was a space of \u201cpure awareness\u201d was not something I had truly entertained or ever thought I would hear myself say. It was the psilocybin studies that really pulled me in while, counterintuitively, were most shocking to my own sensibility.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here was a quiet well-mannered, supremely methodical scientist of the highest standards inducing \u201cmystical experience\u201d in random adults with no such previous experiences. Almost 80 percent of participants reported this five-hour session to be <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">one<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> of the five most important events of their lives, on par with the birth of a first child or the death of a parent. Amazing. Forty percent were reporting it to be <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">the single most important event of their lives<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Terminal cancer patients in another study were reporting losing their fear of death. And these studies were paralleling the accounts being presented by our other protagonists.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At this point not only was I enthralled and personally hooked, but I thought these startling studies seemed an ideal starting point to introduce an audience to the same sense of awe we ourselves had experienced while all the while hanging on to the handrail of science.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_25213\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-25213\" class=\"wp-image-25213 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Psilocybin-Study.jpg\" alt=\"person laying in bed with woman kneeling and holding their hand \" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Psilocybin-Study.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Psilocybin-Study-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Psilocybin-Study-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Psilocybin-Study-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Psilocybin-Study-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-25213\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Richard Boothby and Mary Cosimano in a Psilocybin Study<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>Frauke:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> The impression [that] the psilocybin study takes up a lot of space probably also comes from the fact that two main protagonists at once, the psychedelics researcher Roland Griffiths and Rick Boothby as study participant and philosopher, take the outside and the inside perspective on the same subject. Since both are extremely charismatic and eloquent, a sort of intellectual ping-pong ensues between them. By interweaving the two experiences, the inner, subjective approach to consciousness and the outer, objective scientific approach are brought together.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In addition, psychedelic research, which has only recently been revived after a long enforced slumber\u2014[long] after the exuberant escapades of Timothy Leary in the \u201960s\u2014and is currently experiencing a renaissance, seemed to us to be a particularly fascinating field of research with new discoveries and surprises. What surprised us most was how similar the narratives of the study participants were.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"pbs-viral-player-wrapper\" style=\"position: relative; padding-top: calc(56.25% + 43px);\"><iframe style=\"position: absolute; top: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; border: 0;\" src=\"https:\/\/player.pbs.org\/viralplayer\/3058292020\/\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><b>Do you consider <\/b><b><i>AWARE <\/i><\/b><b>to be political, or exploring consciousness to be political?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Like many in the West, we grew up believing Science and Religion, like Church and State, should remain forever separate: science with the knowable, religion the unknowable\u2014with consciousness belonging to the latter. We gave it no further thought.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But if one is not actively thinking about consciousness and what it means, someone or some ideological &#8220;faith,&#8221; &#8220;religion,&#8221; &#8220;philosophy&#8221; or dogma will define it for you. Witness the continuing rise of populist politicians and fundamentalism in all their contorted forms. Increasingly they determine what has meaning and what is meant. Defining consciousness is the most invisible yet most powerful form of political control. To define consciousness is also power.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Conversely, it is no coincidence mystics have always been persecuted, oppressed, and killed\u2014one need only think of the Church, its Inquisition, the witch hunts of the Middle Ages, the brutality of the &#8220;Conquistadors&#8221; with a sword in one hand and their Bible in the other in the &#8220;New World,&#8221; or ISIS\u2026Whoever is able to independently experience &#8220;pure consciousness,&#8221; or, put another way, to have a &#8220;direct line&#8221; to the divine, is an enormous threat to power and dogma. Experiencing and having access to a greater consciousness erases the need for mediating institutions, indoctrination, and even war. That alone is revolutionary and an unalienable birthright worth struggling for.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Becoming <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">aware<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> you are aware is possibly the most powerful and self-liberating force in anyone\u2019s personal development and thus collectively, the world.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_25214\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-25214\" class=\"wp-image-25214 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Buddhist-monks.jpg\" alt=\"Two Buddhist monks mid ceremony in Tibet\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Buddhist-monks.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Buddhist-monks-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Buddhist-monks-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Buddhist-monks-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/AWARE-Buddhist-monks-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-25214\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Matthieu Ricard &amp; Mingyur Rinpoche, Buddhist ceremony in Tibet<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>What advice do you have for aspiring documentary filmmakers?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Follow your dreams. Documentary filmmaking is exhausting, unbelievably time-consuming, bureaucratic, and financially unsupportable, so you better be following your dreams. On the other hand, one meets the most interesting people, deals with the most interesting, profound topics, and has the illusion of setting something right in the world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>What film\/project(s) are you working on next?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The third film in our<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Heart of Sky, Heart of Earth<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> trilogy: A documentary on the coming climate catastrophe told from a unique, emotional perspective.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>AWARE: Glimpses of Consciousness is the fourth film collaboration between Eric Black and Frauke Sandig, who are based in San Francisco and Berlin respectively, but managed to collaborate on a film that involved traveling both around the globe and through the deepest realms of human consciousness. 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