Photo of Bill Moyers Bill Moyers Journal
Bill Moyers Journal
Bill Moyers Journal
Watch & Listen The Blog Archive Transcripts Buy DVDs

« Begging His Pardon | Main | When One Becomes Two... »

Seeds of Change

By Grace Lee Boggs

I was privileged to participate in the great humanizing movements of the last century, but I can’t recall a time when the issues were so basic, so interconnected.

How are we going to make our livings in a society becoming increasingly jobless because of hi-tech and outsourcing? Where will we get the imagination to recognize that for most of human history the concept of Jobs didn’t even exist? Work, as distinguished from Labor, was done to produce needed goods and services, develop skills and artistry, and nurture cooperation.

How do we rebuild cities like Detroit that were once the arsenal of democracy into models of 21st century self-reliance and sustainability?

How do we redefine education so that 30-50 percent of inner-city children do not drop out of school, thus ensuring that millions will end up in prison?

What will move us to care for our biosphere instead of using our technological mastery to increase the speed at which we are making it uninhabitable?

Can we build an America in which people of all races and ethnicities live together in harmony, and Euro-Americans, in particular, celebrate their role as one among many minorities constituting the multiethnic majority?

And, especially since 9/11, how do we achieve reconciliation with the two-thirds of the world that increasingly resents our economic, military, and cultural domination?

These are the times to grow our souls. Each of us is called upon to embrace the conviction that despite the powers and principalities bent on commodifying all our human relationships, we have the power within us to create the world anew.

We can begin by doing small things at the local level, like planting community gardens or looking out for our neighbors. That is how change takes place in living systems, not from above but from within, from many local actions occurring simultaneously.

Actions like these seem insignificant because we judge progress in terms of quantity. But, as the decline of GM suggests, the time has come to rethink the way we think. In the words of organizational consultant Margaret Wheatley (Leadership and Modern Science):

“From a Newtonian perspective, our efforts often seem too small, and we doubt that our actions will contribute incrementally to large-scale change. But a quantum view explains the success of small efforts quite differently.

Acting locally allows us to be inside the movement and flow of the system, Changes in small places affect the global system, not through incrementalism, but because every small system participates in an unbroken wholeness. We never know how our small activities will affect others through the invisible fabric of our connectedness. In this exquisitely connected world, it’s never a question of ‘critical mass.’ It’s always about critical connections.”


TrackBack URL for this entry:


It's been a long time since I have had the honor of seeing an interview as moving and uplifting as that of Grace Lee Boggs by Bill Moyer. I am deeply grateful to have experienced such a luminous spirit and humane intellect at work and I thank Bill Moyers for giving us this oppportunity. What Grace Boggs offers us is the real option to think outside the box. Instead of trying only to change a self-reinforcing system of government; instead of looking for ways to humanize and invigorate a system which has sealed itself inside an almost inpenetrable shell, and manifests as an autonomous entity, a self-perpetuating structure that continues to lead those outside its barriers to frustration and hopeless outrage, she recognizes this as futile, and generates instead, increment by increment, the empowerment of a grassroots movement. How inspiring to see a woman who has spent a lifetime passionately devoted to the social, political and economic welfare of "the people" by facilitating large and small communities in their regaining of personal dignity, and power for change. Working from the inside out, Grace Lee Boggs has shown us an alternative - not ready-made or easy, but one in which personal investment, an essential requirement, has the greatest rewards. We are ever indebted to her wisdom and humanity. Her contribution will resonate for generations.

Moving out of our comfort zones, connecting with people in neighborhoods on the other side of the highways. Creating our own commons, even while our cities are trying to destroy them. No matter how hard the government tries they will never kill our need to communicate, our will to force change when it's in our self-interest and our determination to create a system to sustain ourselves and our neighbors. It's forcing us to come back to life, and we're doing it, and not all that slowly, either, considering how sloth-like we've become over the last few decades.

The Harlem Renaissance Is Moving to Milwaukee

What a wonderful gift to the people was Bill's interview with Grace!

I have been following the great works of Grace Lee and Jimmy Boggs since the early 1970s. It was one of my life's highest moments in the winter of 2005 to walk into Will Allen's Growing Power workshop for the Beloved Community Initiative and meet Grace in person! I have exchanged notes with Grace since and today she honored me by requesting I post news of the Milwaukee renaissance and Will Allen's Growing Power she mentioned on Bill's show, along with a poem I wrote called "The Harlem Renaissance Is Moving To Milwaukee."

Here are some links that offer news of some of the good things happening in Milwaukee:

Urban farming and community gardens at Will Allen's Growing Power:

General news about "some kind of renaissance" in the "Holy City of the Sweet Water Seas":

Here's "The Harlem Renaissance Is Moving To Milwaukee":

The Harlem Renaissance is moving to Milwaukee,
But that’s not all.

The people have learned some
Since back in that day.

Lot’s of new players,
From absolutely
All over the world.

And not just one renaissance.
Not just a Harlem one.
Not just Milwaukee.
Not just Great Lakes.

A myriad of simultaneous ones,
Like folk blues and jazz
Background to our
Self constructing
Arts and crafts.

Lots of re-birthing underway.
Lots of new births.
Lots of parenting.

Some kind of planetary stirrings.
New fresh food
For all!

We are food
For our friends!

We will grow our selves!

Very, very intensely.

With hard work
And fun for all!

Lot’s of fun.
Lot’s of work.

On the shoulders
Of large and small
Yin and yang

February 9th, 2007

Grace Lee Boggs stands for the hope that one day we will recognize that each one of us represents three thousand generations of known human development. Down through the millennia we have evolved through small actions which reflected not only who we were but who we could become.

Today we are living like lifeless commodities, to be bought and sold to the highest bidder, thinking and acting as if our problems and contradictions dropped out of the sky. For four hundred years we’ve asked blacks to act like decent human beings while we were giving them the boot. Most jobs in this country came from family-owned business which hired and continue to hire their own kind. Yet white folks view the frustrations of blacks as just “acting up.” “ I never owned slaves. Why can’t they get over what’s past?”
The word ”nigger” still echoes in the burbs.

Now black folks are continuing in the American tradition of putting their hopes in economic growth and politicians.

The death-values of this culture have kept blacks and poor whites in a state of under-development and ignorance. Now that the high paying jobs of industrial society are gone, we need to go beyond middle class values and mad consumerism and develop alternative ways to live outside the mainstream. As Jimmy Boggs used to say, “We have to make a way out of no way.”

How do we make the past serve the future? We need the courage and imagination to recognize that, in our post-industrial nuclear age, just picking up the trash on your block and/or looking out for your neighbor is a revolutionary act.
We have to go beyond using racism, sexism, homophobia as excuses for why we can’t do anything new. As a gay white man, I know that becoming the new man of the 21st century means sharing, caring, gifting to each other.

Larry Sparks Ferndale, MI

Wars start with governments? Do they really? Is it the government that starts the war or it our willingness to buy into enmity? Is it our willingness to trust blindly or an inability/ too busy to sort through information and news independently?

One of the biggest gains of all these grassroots organizations is the spreading of a critical consciousness and awareness. The dissemination of an awareness that evades both victim mentality and go-along-with-the-program mentality.

In Detroit there is the beginnings of a cultural revolution, in that there are hundreds if not thousands of people who are taking the time to initiate discussions, create sustainable patterns of consumption, volunteer to mentor, inspire, or organize youth. We are not waiting for a minister or an individual leader to be radical enough to challenge the powers that be. We are working so that we will be organized, rebellious, and critical enough to disentangle our lives from these powers.

We’re learning how to be in sync, how to tell when we are out of sync, how to restore what is broken. Detroit has already been a destination of the Underground Railroad, a stop for those looking for freedom. How do we free the young brothers and sisters who think that killing Iraqis will ensure their freedom? How do we free the young college graduates who think that 10s of thousands of dollars of debt will secure their future? How do we free the gay brothers and sisters from demands on what love, marriage, and being a “real” man or woman is-- that often lead to physical or emotional violence? The 13th Amendment prohibits slavery except after conviction of a crime. Now prison labor is a billion dollar booming business. How do we learn to offer freedom to each other?

Part of what this grassroots activism does is nurture communities of folks who don’t just say “get rid of em” "at least it's not me" or “kill the enemy” when faced with difference or pain. It creates not only an awareness of oppression; but also, a willingness to struggle for someone else’s benefit. Today our daily lives are influenced by suburban sprawl, out-of-sight/ out of mind, and gotta-get-mines materialism, this is the necessary baseline for change. Please continue to highlight what's happening
on the ground.

I really enjoyed your interview yesterday with Mrs. Boggs. This was my first time hearing of her and her husband. I was thrilled to see this 91yr. old still mentally sharp and working towards a better America. I will do all that I can to follow her excellent path.

I was mesmerized by the grace and wisdom of Mrs Boggs. I agreed when she encouraged Bill Moyers, my favorite interviewer, to use the word rebellion rather than riot. I was in college in Detroit in 1967 and I remember that expression of frustration at the ravages unemployment and drugs had meted out to the African American community. I was also in Miami in 1980 when that tinderbox blew up over job discrimination when many felt it was ignited over police brutality.

Bill Moyers, about the disgusting display of sympathy for Scooter, I wanted to add one more thing:

Why didn't a loud cry arise for the pardoning of two Border Patrol agents Compean and Ramos?

Bush appointed US Attorney Johnny Sutton demonized and sent them to prison for 11 years for trying to stop a drug smuggler from Mexico. he also is helping the drug smuggler sue the US for his civil rights being violated.

BP Agents are fighting the war on terror too. They knew whatever was in the van he drove could have been drugs, meth, or illegal aliens OTM's here to cause more American deaths. Luckily for US it was just 800 lbs of pot.

140 BP agents have been sent to Iraq now to teach them how to defend their border.

Are they also going to teach them how to stay out of jail if they fail in an attempt to catch someone?

Bill Moyers, you are my new hero of the press! You said it so well, the deaths of our fallen, remembered on this Fathers Day. Scooter Libby Legal Defense team is headed by the Presidential hopeful Fred Thompson. He will never get my vote for being on the side of a Neocon traitor. Ron Paul is the real deal, and he saw through this Neoconspiracy to fool the public. Thank God for the freedom to speak your thoughts and ours too in your writings. I wish Scooter would be sentenced to 30 months policing the streets of Baghdad at midnight to sunrise. Then and if he survives, I will believe he is a real patriot.

The wisdom that Ms. Boggs shares with us is an ancient and spiritual wisdom practiced in many faiths. It is a fundamental part of Islam, and part of the reason the hierarchy of Christianity is scared of Islam (and must continually cut it down and make it something it is not). Islam shares the wisdom that submission, humility, and local grassroots change are the most powerful thing any person can ever do in their lives...the same exact wisdom which Ms. Boggs shared. I think its funny that so many Westerners of Christian background are just now thinking like this when Native Americans, Africans, Middle Easterners, and many, many other cultures and religions understand, as a core belief system, the power of local and individual change. When is America going to realize that Capitalism does not work (just as Communism did not work!)? Will it take the collapse of this system for people to wake up and see that the selfish, arrogant values needed to support Capitalism are hurting every single person in this country? America: WAKE UP!

I just watched the interview with Ms. Boggs online (thank you for the ability to do this, by the way). It was indeed a very uplifting interview; especially for someone like me who is embarking on my third attempt to unseat a 10 term incumbent in Congress so that we can take a fresh approach to the tremendous challenges we face. Her comment that we are the leaders we've been looking for was a "Yes!" moment for me - the wisdom and hope of the people here at home needs to be channeled up through the person elected to speak in Congress. For too long, we the people have been satisfied to let our Representatives write the script and even their own reviews. We the people know what our values are and what we value - we need to convey these to our elected officials and hold them accountable if they stray. Being a good citizen doesn't mean we all have to become political junkies. In fact, just the opposite, we need to continue to be the doers in our communities, solving problems and doing our part to to make it possible for more people (as a previous writer said here) to live a decent life. Ms. Boggs' continues to do just that; let us strive, each of us, to contribute to that larger purpose in our own ways. Her patience with humanity is inspiring.

What a stunning interview. There's no replacement for the grand sweep of time, as embraced by minds such as Ms. Boggs' and your own. Her juxtaposition of our day with the 1930s was particularly illuminating (albeit sad, from the political perspective).

It would be great to think that righteous leaders will save us by doing sensible things like capping the trade deficit and reversing tax regs that reward companies for offshoring, rather than investing and hiring here, but our bought-and-paid-for governmental system does mitigate against it. If all we can do to save ourselves is secede from the game, I hope that we can find the joy she sees in attempting to restructure our economic lives locally.

There was a similar underlying (dare I call it?) despair of leadership in the interview with Mr. Stern. Is it really impossible to hope for more than crumbs off the transnationals' table? Do we have to accept the TINA (There Is No Alternative) principle? Are there no longer any leaders willing to protect us from the greed of those who want to produce goods or acquire services wherever they like, at the least cost possible, yet continue doing business here without penalty for the defection?

When Mr. Stern made it sound like service jobs are immovable, BTW, he was way off-base. Beyond all the technological help-desk jobs already sent overseas, even we journalists are now at risk, not only from the private equity vultures but from offshoring. I read recently of two California publications that hired writers for a pittance in India.

Just wanted to say what a grassroots person feels from getting overrun by all those desires to help make things better.

I’m tired of hearing and trying to respond to a thousand calls for money and support from every candidate who puts profit ahead of the society they want to govern. Here’s a word from the HEART and SOUL of America:

Don’t just ask nice. Be nice.

Don’t just say good things. Do good things.

Or else.

The 1% who own more than the rest of us do not need me and others to vote to increase their feudal dominance over all of us in the name of freedom. They claim the right to have no one tell them what to do. They need to understand that all we want is to live a decent life without them making it impossible for anyone but them to live a decent life.

The word for living a decent life doesn’t exist.

We have to create it.

Then say it.

And live it.

Is that too much to ask?

Is living a decent life too much to do?


And tomorrow?

And tomorrow and tomorrow?

Or is the idea just completely gone now?

Not worth the time it takes to think of it,

Not worth the fatalist’s murmur,

Nor worth the cynic’s understanding,

Unworthy of even the optimist’s hope and the child’s dreams for a life that makes sense in every part of this world?

I don’t need to ask why I’m here. I already know what I am doing here and what I want to do.

I just want to ask what are you doing here?

I’m not asking “Why are you here?” But, what are you spending time doing that keeps the rest of us from doing what we want?

Are you doing it just for you or for you and the rest of us?

That’s all it would take, you know.

And we’d help you do it.

That’s right. If you wanted to make your fortune making and selling things that are useful and good in an ethical way for people pursuing decent lives we’re all for it and we’ll do what works to help you make your fortune that way.

But if you want to make your fortune by hurting others, starving others, in any way disturbing anyone else’s chances at a decent life, then we don’t want you to have that kind of fortune. In fact, we’ll work against any attempt to create such unethical, anti-humane fortunes from ever happening again.

It’s not socialism. It’s still very much capitalism. It’s just that the capitalism America and the world needs now is an enlightened capitalism.

All the millions of issues and talking points that keep swirling around are just parts of this one overriding idea. We can negotiate the small stuff, but this is the big stuff. And we all ought to agree on it.

No wars for commodities. No abuse of others for your profit. No unfairness in the way opportunity is available.

You want us to fight and die for your right to innovate and make profit? Fine. We will like we always have, but you have to remember one thing:

It’s only in fairness that we join you in this. You can have all the profit you can handle but only on things deemed worthwhile to the world and you are not allowed to take unfair advantage of anyone at any time.

We are the heart and soul of America and this is what we want for ourselves and everyone else:

Honor is the only way to conduct business, ours, yours, the town’s, state’s, and nation’s.

Equality means no one, even someone in power, has more rights than anyone else.

Affinity means, no matter our differences, we need to work together for community.

Representation is for all, from all, so all politics must start from the local to the top.

Truth is always going to come out, so we all may as well start with it to create real trust.


Security means social security and personal security to live calmer, better lives.

Opportunity for all gives people an even chance in life, for life.

Universality of health care and education will enable all to take that even chance.

Liberty is what this country means and every American has the right to deserve it.

Decent life.

For all of us.

We need a word for it. How can we make it fashionable in the world to do good rather than ill?


The best interview thus far.

we need more people like Dr. Grace Lee Boggs. Our world is on fire (fire of hatred, division, prejudice) and she is like water. I wish both Grace and Bill a healthy, prosperous, and happy life.

with kind regards to both Bill and Grace.

I met Grace 9 years ago. Because of her and the connections she has given to my family, I have traveled to Detroit 9 times to get my hands dirty in community gardens, to paint murals, to renovate abandoned houses, to dance, to meet amazing activists from Detroit to Appalachia, and to refill my spirit. One of the great things about Grace is that she is constantly looking at our cities and our world in new ways. Thank you for spotlighting her on your show.

The interview was an insightful time-capsule of grassroots leaders of the world. History begins within the great Asian and African Continents where their peoples were subjects of colonial, dictatorial or monarchical rule. I loved the respected utterance of those names of past and present.

While reading an earlier posting regarding India's colonial indenture-ship, by the way, thanks for the numbering system that we us today which was devised so long ago by a mathematical wizard of the golden era of India and the Pasha and rule that finally did in all peoples of the known world.

Then came America a couple hundred years after the establishment of international banking, the Dutch East India Co., Henry Hudson and his stolen ship log by the English. Crazy thing about petrified forest of Antarctica and tropical fossils along the Arctic rim... must have been about 65 million year ago when the earth did a 90 degree tilt correction. Oh ya... that real chill that happened some time ago and then began to recede about 15,000 years ago. DNA studies of American Natives indicate that populations West of the Great Mississippi(major width and depth as all that ice melted) are of East Asian decent and the populations East of the Mississippi are of Mediterranean (lower western Europe) decent, the early ancestors of the caucasian populace of today. Whoops. a divergence, it must have been the company man!

Ms Boggs and my business class confirmed the element of man and Power... he works for cheap or he's dead. The entities of power weighed their muskets and steel and came to be America as many died and many more came to live and thrive. From those came individuals of great innovation and invention that made their fortunes and unfortunately as Pres. Regan uttered phrases that made silver spoons and neo-con elitists trill with glee... "voodoo and trickle down economics", that made America what it is today.

Grassroots leaders of America... oh ya... the Leather Aprons(B.Franklin) of the Revolution, the slave owners and abolishionist of the Civil War era, the anarchist of the late 1800's that raged against child-labor, 12+ hour work day etcetera and women's lack of voting rights etcetera. Temperance and rights and FDR gave the people social security and the Montgomery Act; therein the Southern political body who filibustered and defeated his civil rights amendment.

After WWII the veteran went to college on the Montgomery Act, the common man got educated. The first World Oil crunch of the 50's (the Japanese thought it was the late 30's), Beatniks Rosa Parks Hippies more oil problems Vietnam Assassinations began then john bobby and martin but the off shore Camen Is. accounts and the Global thing is keeping the whip in hand of the managers and everyone's edicate; brown nosed and silver spoon wannabe... most say why not, it is the way it is and the rest manage and prosper. Real Class.

Grass Roots? The energy crunch is real and the big guts are wrangling to maintain their market and maintaining the Status Quo. The Quorums answer is the fuel cell/car and Enron crashed. Every house would become independent of the grid... Can you imagine all the additional copper that would be required for new electric vehicles throughout the world? The Hybrid is nice though I like Toyota's Low pressure solid hydrogen storage system that provides hydrogen for a modest internal combustion engine with a electric kicker.

Grass Roots is also the Quorums dilemma regarding production of hydrogen that powers the fuel cell or the hydrogen internal combustion engine. Major infrastructure for dispensing and production (Oil profits are huge lately) isn't likely anytime soon soooooo no new vehicles, got to be fructose hybrid flexible, shucks the cow can't eat cheap anymore, $5 milk anyone?

There is a saying... there is no excuse for ignorance of the law... like to the hilt... tilt, like things that most don't know. Ben invented though didnot patent a outside draw fireplace and then came the franklin stove. Nikolas Tesla invented and patented Alternating Current, its generation, transmission and transformers and fixtures to provide outlet, AC motors of many types as well analog radio that Marconi ripped off. Tesla immigrated to America and went to work for Edison who rejected Tesla's ideas. Tesla partnered with Westinghouse and Niagara... flick a switch.

Electrolysis (splitting of water into its components of hydrogen and oxygen) requires reversed osmosis H2O that is ionized (energized with electricity, sorta like electro plating) and then tank'd with anode and cathode excited by a low volt higher amp current. Gas is then captured over each of the anode and cathode one being hydrogen and the other oxygen. Then a diaphragm type capture and compression into low pressure solid hydrogen storage. See and how its done,

Socialism is alive and well in America... it is all about us, it is in the constitution... We the people... though Sam likes to point and earmarks are rampant as elbow rubbing goes, it is the law/codes that has given faith in the our system and now the global economy that our invention has give so much to is importing junk agin.

The condensed conclusion is that a hydrogen economy that would require converting the present vehicles and introduction of the new model could be accomplished within a few short years. CNN ran a special denoting sheer chaos by late 2009 as the world runs out of gas.

Grassroots! Get educated and be concerned, there are a lot of businesses that need to develop in-order too proof the evolution and everyone needs to be part of the change.

Thank you for introducing me to Grace Lee Boggs. Such a fascinating and eloquent woman! The interview left me with a smile on my face and a strong desire to stop just hoping and wishing for change but to actively seek ways to help promote positive change in my own little corner of the world.

Powerful. Her words remind me of the work and spirit of many in Louisiana and Mississippi rebuilding their lives one day at a time. Many are participating in a civic engagement for the very first time. This story confirms the reality and the need for reaffirmation of courage, conviction, and wisdom of everyday people. Gracie epitomizes Hope.

Grace is inspiring. The world needs more great thinkers. As a Sociology graduate, I love to hear what the activists of the world have to say. As she said, we are the leaders we have been looking for. It's easy to make small changes with big impacts. These may be the key of the shift in our world. Grace offers a positive message we can all benefit from no matter what background we come from.
Thank you for introducing me to Grace.

This is the Best story on the Journal to date! Thank you for sharing Grace's involvement with the social justice movement. I hope to continue advocating at 91 =) very touching

Thanks to the journal for bringing Grace Lee Boggs to the screen. Grace asserts that there is a need for us to construct a new kind of leader(ship). Might this form of leadership be the emergence of the dialogical leader? That is, a leader who's primary conviction is to create space for the voice of all to be heard? Might this be the better understanding of a leader in lieu of what we, by being passive, continue to allow -- that is the non-dialogical projections of a few priviledged individuals? How would things be different if we decided to be served by a dialogical leader?

It just baffles me why grace and bill crying
about Outsourcing, are jobs for americans only.
So you want the world to buy your crap.
So why did America fight so hard against communism,
in order to sell your crap to us. Weill if you
want to sell your crap then your companies have
to open factories over here. it is that simple.
Did Indians cry when britain stole cotton
from India and produced clothing in their mills.
obviously they couldn't compete 400 years ago.
Did Indians cry that you are taking our jobs
when britain setup sugar plantations all over
the world using Indian labor. This hypocrisy
is so thick it is not even funny.
I can give additional examples if you are not aware
of what happened to us. What East India Company did
to us, We are just using your tactic to give back.
It is called competition. You guys sure use to
lecture us on how the brown people weren't smart, etc.

As far as I am concerned West has emitted CO2 for 150 years.
and now are asking India and China to not pollute
simple solution is to give reparations to China
and India after all you stole our jobs first.

Grace Lee Boggs simply wants us to understand that the answers to the problems we perceive as insurmountable and that too often anaesthetize our good intentions do not and cannot come from those in positions of power. Rather, Ms. Boggs asks us to look inside ourselves and to our own communities for those answers. Thanks, Bill Moyers, for introducing us to a remarkable woman whose profound wisdom comes not just from the experience of years but from passion for and belief in the human spirit.

Wayne Saray
Montreal, Quebec

Thank you for introducing me to Grace Lee Boggs, someone I had not heard of but wish I had much sooner than now. I felt so motivated to provoke a "change" in my little community.... to rise up and say, "No more of remaining quiet!" I especially liked it when she said we must not look to those in government as leaders....but to each of us among the grassroots. Absolutely! "We the people..."

i could not agree more. and until ms.boggs'segment on bill moyers' journal, i thought i was the only one who was seeing (and feeling) the disconnection, isolation, and resourceless-ness.

ms.boggs is right. it is time for fundamental change within ourselves.

the "me" generation must give way to the "we" generation.

this will take some re-education and re-awakening from our all- consuming consuming.

we must re-learn to listen to each other. we must re-learn to talk face to face rather than screen to screen. we must reconnect human to human again even if it's in the grocery store line, at the bus stop, at a community meeting to get a red light at the corner.

i believe that only then will we regain some balance, some sense of self determination, some sense of control, in our society and in our lives.

Grace Lee Boggs is remarkable. Have never heard of her. Thanks for the interview which makes me think of Greg Mortenson (Three Cups of Tea)who responded to the need of a remote Pakistani village and began building schools for girls, one stone at a time.

Thanks so much for the wonderful and in-depth interview with Grace Lee Boggs and for introducing me to such a fascinating and brilliant woman. To hear her speak with such conviction and optimism about the future was a great lift, and to know that she is still working hard to make our country a better place was very inspiring.

Post a comment

A Companion Blog to Bill Moyers Journal

Your Comments


THE JOURNAL offers a free podcast and vodcast of all weekly episodes. (help)

Click to subscribe in iTunes

Subscribe with another reader

Get the vodcast (help)

For Educators    About the Series    Bill Moyers on PBS   

© Public Affairs Television 2008    Privacy Policy    DVD/VHS    Terms of Use    FAQ