October 09, 2020

This week on To The Contrary with Bonnie Erbe, our panelists discuss a drop in women in the workforce due to COVID-19, and a historic debate between Vice President Mike Pence and Sen. Kamala Harris. Was there a winner? 

On the panel this week joining host Bonnie Erbe is: Former Rep. Donna Edwards (D-MD), Debra Carnahan, Ann Stone & Linda Chavez

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Women In The Workplace

Many women are considering dropping out of the workforce due to the coronavirus pandemic.

  • Donna Edwards: “Even if men in the household do a lot of stuff, they don’t do as much as women do in terms of being caregivers. And now women are working at home, they’re caregivers at home, they’re teaching their children at home, it’s a huge load for them. And so it’s actually not surprising that some of them are saying, ‘you know what? I gotta ditch one of these things.’ And they can’t ditch their children or their caregiving, and so they’re making decisions to ditch their jobs.”

  • Debra Carnahan: “We need an aid package. We’re coming to the winter, it’s flu season on top of the virus season. This is a necessity. This isn’t choice. This is what you have to do. Women are looking at ‘yeah my family was always a priority, but I’m also a major breadwinner... and something’s gotta give here.’ And women are once again, doing the giving.”

  • Linda Chavez: “(Women dropping out of the workforce) is probably not going to be an equal opportunity problem. I think that if you are a high income woman, particularly if it's a two parent household, you may have the choice to stay home. There are now you know, such concerns about what to do about the kids, whether it's safe to send them back to school, but for low income women for you know, the people who clean buildings or you know, deliver the groceries or do the waitresses or waiters, right? They may very well not have a choice. And so what that's going to mean is that they may be going back into the workforce, but their kids are going to be home alone, and that is not going to be good for anybody.”

  • Ann Stone: “I think another thing you're going to see coming out of (the drop in women in the workforce) is more home based businesses, which women excel at. And I think you will see that, but I think there's going to be real transformation overall in the economy with more people working from home.”

Vice Presidential Debate

Kamala Harris became the first black woman to participate in a vice-presidential debate as she faced current VP Mike Pence

  • Bonnie Erbe: “Who won more voters over?”

  • Donna Edward: “Pence was hard pressed to explain away the abject failure of the administration, and him and the president, in terms of the #1 thing that's on people's minds, and that's the coronavirus."

  • Debra Carnahan: “That’s what a presidential debate should look like. You can say I think this person won, I think that person won, but I was so relieved to see civility. I do think the vice president interrupted the senator more often than she interrupted him.”

  • Linda Chavez: In terms of debating style, I think (Mike Pence)  is a good debater, there is certainly a school of thought that says that you ought to do what he did when you don't have the facts on your side. On the other hand, if you're trying to win over people who don't already agree with you, I don't think he did a very good job and I think (Kamala Harris) came across as really likable. And that I think, you know, I hate to say it, but all of us on this panel know it's true. likability really matters in politics, and it especially matters for women.

  • Ann Stone: “There is no religious test for a Justice on the Supreme Court.”


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