ICE Shooting of DoorDash Driver in Texas: What We Know

>> NOW TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS, WHERE PROTESTS IN AWES TOOK TO THE STREETS ON SUNDAY, CALLING FOR FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OFFICERS TO LEAVE THEIR HOME CITY AND STATE AFTER AN AGENT SHOT WILBER PEREZ IN HIS CAR A WEEK AGO.

PEREZ REMAINS IN I. C. E. DETENTION WITH SUPPORTERS CONCERNED ABOUT THE BULLET THAT'S STILL LODGED IN HIS BACK.

TONY PLOHETSKI IS AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER FOR THE "AUSTIN AMERICAN-STATESMAN," AND HE SPEAKS NOW TO HARI SREENIVASAN.

>> CHRISTIANE, THANKS.

TONY PLOHETSKI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

TONY, YOU WORK AT THE "AUSTIN AMERICAN- STATESMAN," AND YOU HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING I. C. E. ACTIVITY IN AUSTIN AND OTHER PLACES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

JUST RECENTLY, WE HAD A FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AGENT SHOOT AND WOUNDED A VENEZUELAN MAN WHO WAS WORKING AS A DOOR --DELIVERY DRIVER.

CAN YOU WALK OUR VIEWERS THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED OR WHAT WE KNOW THAT HAPPENED?

>> AND THE STORY IS STILL COMING TOGETHER IN TERMS OF THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS.

BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THIS STARTED ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON IN BROAD DAYLIGHT IN NORTH AUSTIN, AND THE PERSON WAS INITIALLY STOPPED.

HE'S A 28-YEAR-OLD VENEZUELAN, AND HE WAS INITIALLY STOPPED BY I. C. E. AGENTS.

AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT WAS CAPTURED ON VIDEO FROM AN OFFDUTY AUSTIN POLICE OFFICER WHO HAD A MOUNTED VIDEO CAMERA ON HIS PERSONAL CAR.

HE WAS OUT RUNNING ERRANDS.

AND HE SAW THAT TWO BLACK SUVs HAD STOPPED THIS BLUE CHEVROLET COROLLA AND WERE AT THE DRIVER'S SIDE TALKING TO THIS PERSON THEY WERE PLANNING TO DETAIN.

AT THAT POINT, THE DRIVER OF THE COROLLA LED AUTHORITIES ON A BRIEF CHASE IN NORTH AUSTIN BEFORE ONE OF THE I. C. E. AGENTS USED WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMONLY REFERS TO AS A PIT MANEUVER TO STOP THIS VEHICLE.

THEN AT THAT POINT, FOR REASONS THAT ARE ENTIRELY UNCLEAR AT THIS POINT, THE I. C. E. AGENT OPENED FIRE, SHOT THREE TIMES, APPARENTLY INTO THE CAR, AND WOUNDING THE MAN IN THE BACK.

>> SO WE DO NOT KNOW WHETHER THERE WAS ANY --AND AGAIN, THIS IS DAYS LATER NOW.

WE STILL DON'T KNOW WAS THERE A WEAPON?

WAS THERE A THREAT?

WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE MOTIVATED THAT AGENT TO SHOOT INTO THE CAR?

>> THAT INFORMATION HAS JUST NOT BEEN MADE AVAILABLE.

AND STRIKINGLY SO, HARI.

I'VE COVERED LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND STATE POLICE IN TEXAS NOW FOR DECADES.

AND SO FOR THE AUTHORITIES TO NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM INTRODUCE A SEQUENCE OF EVENTS INTO THE CONVERSATION TO EXPLAIN WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED.

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT RAISES MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES HERE.

>> OKAY.

SO WHAT WE HAVE ALSO ARE PHOTOGRAPHS AND TESTIMONY THAT SAY THAT THIS BULLET, AT LEAST ONE OF THEM WENT THROUGH THE SEAT AND IN TO CLOSE TO THIS PERSON'S SPINE.

AND WHAT DO HIS LAWYERS SAY HAPPENED AFTER THAT ARREST?

>> THIS HAS BEEN TO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS CASE A VERY DISTURBING SEQUENCE OF EVENTS.

WE KNOW THAT LOCAL PARAMEDICS HERE IN AUSTIN TOOK THE MAN.

HIS NAME IS WILBUR RAFAEL GRAZAS PEREZ.

THEY TOOK HIM TO THE LOCAL HOSPITAL AND ACCORDING TO THE ATTORNEY SHE COULD NOT LOCATE HIM FOR SOME HOURS.

IN FACT, WE KNOW THAT THE MAYOR OF AUSTIN PERSONALLY WENT TO THE HOSPITAL TO TRY TO HELP HIS WIFE AND HIS LEGAL COUNSEL LOCATE HIM.

HE REMAINED AT THE HOSPITAL ONLY A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME FOR SOMEONE WHO HAD BEEN SHOT.

AT ABOUT 4:30 IN THE AFTERNOON, ABOUT FOUR HOURS AFTER THIS ENCOUNTER UNFOLDED, WE'RE TOLD THAT HE WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BY I. C. E. AGENTS AND THEN TAKEN TO A DETENTION FACILITY ABOUT TWO HOURS SOUTH OF AUSTIN NEAR SAN ANTONIO.

AND ACCORDING TO HIS ATTORNEY, WHO IS A WELL-KNOWN IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY HERE IN THE AUSTIN AREA, HE RECEIVED VERY LITTLE MEDICAL TREATMENT, DID NOT RECEIVE AMPLE PAIN MEDICATION.

SHE HAD MADE A NUMBER OF CLAIMS THAT HAVE BEEN ECHOED BY OTHERS INCLUDING CONGRESSMAN GREG QASR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HOMELAND OFFICIALS REALLY DISPUTE SOME OF THE CLAIMS THEY HAVE MADE WITH REGARD TO HIS CARE BEHIND BARS.

>> THE MAN'S LAWYER, KATE LINCOLN GOLDFINCH SAID "WE NEED THE DASH CAMERA FOOTAGE, BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE FROM I. C. E. AND HAVING THESE BYSTANDER VIDEOS DOES NOT GIVE US A FULL PICTURE.

MY CLIENT HAS SAID HE WAS NOT INTENDING TO FLEE.

HE WAS TRYING TO GET OUT OF TRAFFIC AND OUT OF DANGER. "

MARKWAYNE MULLIN SAYS THIS PERSON IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN WHO HAS NO LEGAL STATUS TO BE HERE AND HAS BEEN GIVEN SOME OF THE BEST MEDICAL CARE HE'S EVER RECEIVED IN HIS LIFE.

NO AMOUNT OF SMEARS AND FALSE NARRATIVES WILL SLOW DOWN I. C. E. FROM DOING ITS JOB BY REMOVING DANGEROUS ILLEGAL ALIENS FROM OUR COMMUNITIES AND MAKING AMERICA SAFE AGAIN.

YOU COVERED BACK IN AUGUST VICTOR MARTINEZ NIETO AND HIS 5-YEAR-OLD SON, LIAM TADEO.

THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY TO SOCCER PRACTICE.

WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT INCIDENT?

>> A 5-YEAR-OLD BOY WHO WAS LIVING IN AUSTIN WITH HIS FATHER, HE WAS SET TO START SCHOOL THE NEXT WEEK, AND I. C. E. AGENTS WHILE ON HIS WAY TO SOCCER PRACTICE ESSENTIALLY ARRESTED THE FATHER AND ALSO TOOK HIM INTO CUSTODY.

THERE WAS SOME DISPUTE ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE 5-YEAR-OLD BOY IN THIS CASE.

WHAT WE ARE TOLD, THOUGH, IS HIS FATHER WANTED TO MAINTAIN CUSTODY OF HIM.

AND SO ULTIMATELY, THEY WERE BOTH DEPORTED TO MEXICO AND REUNITED WITH THE HELP OF THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS IN MEXICO.

BUT HARI, THAT STORY AND WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM IS SO SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT HIGHLIGHTS, AGAIN, FOR PEOPLE IN AUSTIN A VERY LIBERAL, PROGRESSIVE CITY JUST HOW DISRUPTIVE AND HOW DISTURBING ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN.

AND THEN WHEN YOU ADD A SHOOTING NOW, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT MANY PEOPLE IN AUSTIN HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT AS THESE ICE OPERATIONS HAVE UNFOLDED ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THERE'S BEEN GROWING FEAR, GROWING ANXIETY THAT THAT TYPE OF VIOLENCE COULD COME TO THE STREETS OF AUSTIN AS IT DID ON THAT SUNDAY AFTERNOON.

>> DHS SAYS MARTINEZ NIETO IS A MEXICAN NATIONAL WHO ENTERED THE U. S. ILLEGALLY IN MARCH OF 2022.

I. C. E. ARRESTED IN JUNTO TEXAS AND HE ACCEPTED VOLUNTARY REMOVAL ON FEBRUARY 2026.

HE THEN ILLEGALLY REENTERED THE COUNTRY AT AN UNKNOWN TIME AND PLACE BEFORE THIS MOST RECENT AUGUST 16th ARREST.

THE QUESTION I THINK PARENTS REALLY ARE ASKING IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR THE CHILD TO STAY IN THE UNITED STATES WITH HIS MOM?

AND THERE WAS A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN IN THIS CASE WHO ALSO MADE A STATEMENT WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS A CHOICE MADE UNDER DURESS.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND MANY OF THE DEMOCRATS AND OPPONENTS TO THESE TYPE OF OPERATIONS POINT TO THAT SET OF FACTS AND SAY THAT THESE TYPE OF I. C. E. EFFORTS HAVE DESTROYED FAMILIES.

THEY HAVE BROKEN FAMILIES APART NEEDLESSLY, AND THAT'S WHY THEY POINT TO WHAT THEY CONSIDER ARE THESE EXTREMELY HEAVY-HANDED TACTICS THAT THEY SAY ARE NOT GOOD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND IN FACT ERODE CONFIDENCE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

>> THERE IS A THIRD CASE I WANT TO ASK ABOUT BACK IN JULY WHERE I. C. E. AGENTS FATALLY SHOT A MAN NAMED LORENZO SALGADO A NAMED LORENZO SALGADO RAJARAJO.

HE LIVED IN THE U. S. FOR 25 YEARS, RAN A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

>> THAT IS A CASE THAT HAS ALSO BEEN HEAVILY FOLLOW AND HEAVILY SCRUTINIZED.

IN THAT CASE, AUTHORITIES ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE PERSON WHO WAS SHOT WAS NOT THE INTENDED TARGET FOR I. C. E. ACTIVITY.

IT HAS BEEN VERY LITIGATED IN THE PUBLIC SPACE ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED, WHETHER OR NOT THE DRIVER -- THIS INVOLVED A VAN --WHETHER OR NOT THAT DRIVER DID SOMETHING THAT PLACED HIMSELF AT RISK FOR GUNFIRE FROM I. C. E. AGENTS, YET AT THE SAME TIME, OTHER WITNESSES AND FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE MAN SAY THAT THAT IS JUST IMPOSSIBLE, THAT THIS WAS AN UNNECESSARY ACT OF VIOLENCE.

AND WHAT WE KNOW IS THE LOCAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN HARRIS COUNTY IN HOUSTON HAS VOWED AN INVESTIGATION AND VOWED TO TAKE THIS CASE TO A GRAND JURY TO SEEK POSSIBLE CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST THE I. C. E. AGENT WHO OPENED FIRE, CRIMINAL CHARGES POSSIBLY INCLUDING MURDER CHARGES.

I DO THINK THAT THAT REALLY DOES OPEN THE CONVERSATION TOO AND IT'S NOW UNFOLDING HERE IN AUSTIN ABOUT THE ROLE OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE ROLE OF LOCAL PROSECUTORS IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

>> YOU KNOW, THAT TIME IN HOUSTON THERE WAS A SIMILAR SHOOTING IN MAINE.

AND AFTER THAT, DHS TOLD I. C. E. TO PAUSE MOST VEHICLE STOPS.

AND THE REASON THAT COMES BACK INTO MEMORY IS THAT THE PRESIDENT OVERTURNED THAT PAUSE AT THE TIME SAYING I. C. E. , QUOTE, CANNOT GIVE UP ONE OF I. C. E.

'S MOST IMPORTANT AND EFFECTIVE CRIME FIGHTING TOOLS, THE TRAFFIC STOP.

WHAT'S DIFFERENT ON THE GROUND TODAY?

BECAUSE AT DIFFERENT POINTS, I. C. E. HAS SAID NOT ONLY ARE THEY GOING TO PAUSE THESE TRAFFIC STOPS, THEY'RE GOING GIVE BODY CAMERAS TO EVERYBODY, AND IN THE CASE, THE FIRST CASE THAT WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IN AUSTIN, SHOULD THERE BE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE FROM ANYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THIS STOP?

>> WELL, AND TO YOUR POINT, THE INCIDENT IN AUSTIN UNDERSCORES AND HIGHLIGHTS THAT THOSE TYPES OF TRAFFIC STOPS ARE EXACTLY CONTINUING.

AND WHAT WE'RE TOLD IS THAT THE I. C. E. AGENT A SUPERVISOR WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THAT INCIDENT VERY MUCH TARGETED THE MAN WHO THEY STOPPED.

WE'RE TOLD THAT THEY WERE USING SOME SORT OF POTENTIAL LICENSE PLATE READER TO CONFIRM THE IDENTITY OF THE CAR.

AND, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE VIDEO THAT WAS TAKEN BY THE OFFDUTY LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY WERE CONDUCTING A TRAFFIC STOP.

HAD YOU BEEN PASSING THAT AND NOT KNOWN THAT IT WAS I. C. E. , YOU WOULD SIMPLY HAVE BELIEVED THAT SOMEONE WAS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR EXAMPLE RECEIVING A SPEEDING TICKET.

THAT APPEARED TO BE HOW THIS LOOKED.

SO WE KNOW THAT THOSE TYPES OF TRAFFIC STOPS ARE VERY MUCH CONTINUING AS PART OF THESE I. C. E. OPERATIONS.

WITH REGARD TO THE BODY CAMERA VIDEO, WE ARE TOLD, AND FOR REASONS THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN FULLY EXPLAINED, BUT THE PRELIMINARY INFORMATION IS THAT THERE IS NO BODY CAMERA VIDEO IN THIS INCIDENT.

THERE IS SOME DEGREE OF BYSTANDER VIDEO, THOUGH WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, WHAT HAS BEEN PUBLICLY RELEASED IS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR, AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO KNOW THAT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT QUICKLY ARRIVED AT THE SCENE, AND THERE IS SOME VIDEO WITH REGARD TO THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH OF THE SHOOTING.

BUT, AGAIN, WHAT EXACTLY TRANSPIRED IN THOSE MOMENTS OF THE SHOOTING ARE A BIG OPEN QUESTION DAYS LATER.

>> THERE IS OBVIOUSLY THE FEDERAL, THE DHS AND THE I. C. E. AUTHORITIES.

THERE IS ACTUALLY A STATE LAYER OF POLICE IN TEXAS, AND OF COURSE THERE IS THE LOCAL POLICE.

ARE THEY ALL COOPERATING WITH I. C. E. IN TRYING TO MAKE THESE STOPS?

ARE THE CITIES, DO THEY HAVE KIND OF DIFFERENT PRIORITIES?

HOW DO THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS STARTING TO HAPPEN ON THEIR STREETS?

>> I CAN SPEAK VERY SPECIFICALLY TO THAT IN THE CITY WHERE I LIVE, WHICH IS AUSTIN.

WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THE STATE POLICING AGENCY, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS OF COURSE ULTIMATELY RUN BY THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF TEXAS, GREG ABBOTT, HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN COLLABORATING AND PARTNERING WITH I. C. E. MANY OF THE HIGHER PROFILE ICE OPERATIONS THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN AUSTIN AND IN CENTRAL TEXAS HAVE INCLUDED THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO THEIR COLLABORATION, THEIR COOPERATION IS STRONG.

AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT WAS UNFOLDING, THAT I. C. E. AGENTS ACTUALLY SUMMONED THE ASSISTANCE OF THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT STANDS IN STARK CONTRAST TO HOW LOCAL POLICE IN AUSTIN HAVE HANDLED THIS.

WHAT LOCAL POLICE HAVE SAID IS THEY IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM ARE ENGAGED IN WORKING WITH I. C. E. AND ENFORCING ANY SORT OF IMMIGRATION LAW THAT THE WORK OF THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES IN THE CITY AND TO DEAL WITH AND RESPOND TO LOCAL INCIDENTS AS A MUNICIPAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WOULD.

>> YOU KNOW, TEXAS HAS AN ESTIMATED TWO MILLION OR SO UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.

SO WHEN THESE DIFFERENT RAIDS AND ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES ARE TAKING PLACE IN COMMUNITIES IN TEXAS, WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE STATE UNDERSTAND?

>> THAT THESE OPERATIONS WE KNOW ARE CONTINUING, THAT THEY ARE CONTINUING AT DIFFERENT SCALES, YET AT THE SAME TIME, IN TERMS OF WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THAT HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT AND TO FOLLOW OVER THESE MANY MONTHS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CARRIED OUT DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

I. C. E. SAYS VERY LITTLE ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS, THEIR OPERATIONS.

SO MUCH OF THIS IS SHIELDED IN SECRECY AND REMAINS OPAQUE.

AND AGAIN, TO THAT END, WE'RE SEEING THAT EVEN PLAY OUT IN THIS SHOOTING THAT OCCURRED IN AUSTIN.

HERE WE ARE DAYS LATER AND I. C. E. OFFICIALS HAVE RELEASED VERY SCANT INFORMATION.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF THE I. C. E. AGENT WHO WAS INVOLVED.

AND THAT IS JUXTAPOSED WITH THE FACT THAT A LOCAL MUNICIPAL POLICE OFFICER WERE INVOLVED IN AN INCIDENT LIKE THAT, WE WOULD KNOW PRETTY QUICKLY WHO THAT --WHO THAT OFFICER OR AGENT WAS, THEIR HISTORY WITH THE DEPARTMENT.

SO THERE CONTINUES TO BE SO MUCH OF THIS THAT IS SHIELDED FROM PUBLIC VIEW AND IS OPERATING IN THIS VERY HIDDEN WAY.

>> ARE PEOPLE IN TEXAS SURPRISED THAT IT'S HAPPENING IN TEXAS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A STAUNCHLY REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR WHO HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AT DIFFERENT TIMES?

I MEAN, WHEN THEY SEE THIS HAPPENING PERHAPS IN WISCONSIN OR NEW YORK CITY, THEY SAY MAYBE I. C. E. IS GOING AFTER DEEPLY BLUE STATES AND BLUE CITIES.

>> THERE HAS ABSOLUTELY BEEN THAT THOUGHT, THAT BECAUSE TEXAS HAS AT LEAST TRADITIONALLY BEEN IS DEEPLY RED STATE THAT PERHAPS FEDERAL IMMIGRATION EFFORTS WOULD NOT BE TARGETED, AT LEAST IN THE SAME WAY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN OTHER CITIES, PARTICULARLY BLUE CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS VOWED TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY AND COOPERATIVELY WITH I. C. E. IN THESE OPERATIONS THAT PERHAPS THE LEVEL OF AGGRESSION THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES WOULD NOT PLAY OUT.

THERE HAS ABSOLUTELY BEEN THAT THOUGHT.

>> I ALSO WONDER, COULD THERE BE ANY POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW?

YOU HAVE A VERY TIGHT SENATE RACE THAT'S HAPPENING.

AND IN THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, YOU SAW NUMBERS WHERE A LARGE NUMBER OF HISPANIC VOTERS WENT FOR THE PRESIDENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION.

>> I THINK IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT THIS COULD BE YET ANOTHER DATA POINT FOR TEXAS VOTERS, MANY OF WHOM, TO YOUR POINT, ARE HISPANIC AND VOTED WITH THE REPUBLICANS IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE TWO YEARS AGO.

BUT WHAT MANY OF THOSE HISPANIC VOTERS TELL ME IS THAT THEY DID NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND OR APPRECIATE THE LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT AND THE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT IMMIGRATION AGENTS WOULD BE GOING AFTER AS PART OF THESE SWEEPS.

AND SO IN THAT WAY, MANY OF THEM ALREADY WERE STARTING TO TURN AWAY FROM POSSIBLY VOTING FOR REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES IN THE UPCOMING MIDTERM.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU ADD ALL OF THE MYSTERY TO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SHOOTING AND THE SHOOTING ITSELF, THEY LOOK AT THIS SITUATION AND SAY THAT THE PERSON, THE VICTIM OF THIS SHOOTING WAS --DID NOT HAVE A CRIMINAL HISTORY, MUCH LESS A VIOLENT CRIMINAL HISTORY, AND THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY VOTED FOR.

AND THEY DO BELIEVE THAT THIS TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT EFFORT DOES NEED TO BE REVERSED.

>> INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER FOR THE "AUSTIN AMERICAN- STATESMAN" TONY PLOHETSKI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

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