Haves and Have Nots: A PBS NewsHour Weekend Special

There were no bigger issues fueling the chaotic 2016 election than jobs and the increasing number of Americans who feel that a recovering economy simply passed them by. From the rural towns of Eastern Kentucky to the heart of Silicon Valley, this program from our partners at PBS World highlights stories of both struggles and solutions — and sheds new light on the growing economic divide felt by millions of Americans.

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>> On this special edition of

"PBS NewsHour Weekend",

the economic divide.

>> The American dream has been

very real for millions and

millions of people over the

years, but there's been an

American nightmare that has

accompanied that, and that's

where people that equally have

tired to get educated and worked

hard and had good habits and

found themselves living a life

that's been on the edge

throughout their entire lives,

and the same for their children.

>> Amid stories of hardship and

struggle...

>> He ended up in prison for

seven years.

His mother passed away when he

was in there.

>> That's worst thing that could

have ever happened to me, 'cause

I think about that every time

I look at somebody selling dope

on the street, but I'm like,

"Don't you know the people that

you love can leave you while you

in the midst of your

destruction?

Don't you know that?"

>> ...emerges new thinking,

innovative solutions, and hope

for the future.

>> If I can, I'm gonna stay

right here and try to get

through this school that I'm

doing, because it's here.

HVAC work is here.

>> Next on "Chasing the Dream:

Poverty and Opportunity

in America" -- a

"PBS NewsHour Weekend" special.

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this is "Chasing the Dream."

>> I'm Alison Stewart.

There were no bigger issues

fueling the chaotic 2016

election season than jobs,

opportunity, and the increasing

number of Americans who feel

that a recovering economy has

simply passed them by.

As part of "Chasing the Dream,"

our ongoing series of reports on

poverty and opportunity in

America, featured on this

broadcast and all across public

media, we've been traveling

across the country finding

stories of both struggles and

solutions, and we want to share

some of that reporting with you

tonight.

We begin with an aspect of

poverty that's often less

visible.

Of the estimated 45 million

Americans now living below the

poverty line, more than

7.5 million live in rural areas.

Eastern Kentucky, coal-mining

country, is one place where

poverty has persisted for

decades.

A plan created under the Obama

Administration, what are known

as Promise Zones, has aimed to

alleviate that.

The "NewsHour's" Megan Thompson

traveled there and has our

report.

>> In this South Central

mountain country, over a third

of the population is faced with

chronic unemployment.

>> For as long as anyone can

remember, the coal country of

Eastern Kentucky has struggled.

In 1964,

President Lyndon Johnson came

through here after he declared

the war on poverty.

This is the area that became the

face of his campaign.

>> And we're just not willing to

accept the necessity of poverty.

>> Back then, the poverty rate

in some areas was around 60%.

Eastern Kentucky has made big

strides in the 50 years since

Lyndon Johnson came through

here.

But even still, the area

continues to struggle today.

The poverty rate in

Eastern Kentucky has dropped,

but, in some parts, still hovers

around 30%.

Unemployment in some counties is

more than 10%.

That's much higher than the

national average.

And the region is still

dependent on coal, which has

meant trouble as the industry's

gone south.

How big is the coal industry?

>> Everything here stems off of

coal.

>> Like many here,

Tobey Miller's roots run deep,

and they run through the coal

mines.

>> Well, my papaw, he worked in

the mines.

Used to tell me stories about

when he moved here.

>> Miller's papaw, his

grandfather, bought the family

farm in Knox County in 1941 with

the money he earned from coal.

Miller's dad worked in coal and,

straight out of high school,

Miller did, too, welding the

heavy machinery used in the

mines.

Miller's family, his wife, two

daughters, and granddaughter,

lived well.

He earned more than $50,000 a

year.

That's double the median

household income around here.

But then a year ago, Miller was

told his job was being cut.

>> I've got kids that have

needs, that I couldn't provide

for.

I guess, actually, I got

depressed real bad, and...

I-I was just scared of losing

everything.

>> Miller says his family's farm

has helped him get by.

He grows most of his own food

and already chopped firewood for

winter.

>> That'll be my heat.

>> After his unemployment checks

ran out, he did odd jobs for

neighbors to stay afloat.

>> You just can't go out here

and find a job that suits you.

I mean, it just ain't here.

>> Since the 1970s, more than

130,000 coal jobs have been lost

in the U.S., a decline of about

50%.

Coal employment in

Eastern Kentucky's now at a

historic low.

More than 7,000 jobs have been

lost since 2008.

>> The thing that hasn't

happened at an adequate rate is

the diversification of the local

economy.

>> University of Kentucky

economist and poverty expert

James Ziliak says a vicious

cycle is at work.

Like other persistently poor

areas, Eastern Kentucky's

high-school and college

graduation rates are lower than

the rest of the country.

So few other industries,

increasingly in need of highly

skilled workers, have located

here.

>> I think the recognition has

come at this point in time that

coal -- It's not gonna be the

engine of job growth going

forward.

>> There are many reasons for

coal's long decline --

Increased mechanization,

a dwindling coal supply,

the low cost of natural gas,

and stricter environmental

regulations.

>> While the EPA and bureaucrats

try to kill Kentucky's coal

industry...

>> The job losses are a hot

topic in the Senate race here.

Republican incumbent

Mitch McConnell has tried to

capitalize on the latest round

of environmental rules proposed

by the Obama Administration last

summer.

Even democratic challenger

Alison Lundergan Grimes has kept

her distance from the

administration.

>> I don't agree with what the

President has done, his energy

philosophy.

>> While President Obama's

blamed right or wrong for the

coal layoffs in Kentucky, he's

also getting some credit for a

new plan to boost the economy

unveiled earlier this year.

>> We're here today to announce

the first five Promise Zones in

America.

>> The Promise Zone Initiative

will fight poverty by

concentrating aid in specific

regions of the U.S.

It's not a new idea --

Republican Congressman and

Housing Secretary Jack Kemp

pushed enterprise zones starting

in the '80s.

President Clinton promoted

empowerment zones.

They appeal to the left and the

right because they use tax

breaks to spur job growth.

President Obama proposed tax

cuts for the Promise Zones, but

they have to be passed by

Congress, a prospect considered

unlikely for now.

And there's no guaranteed

federal aid -- just a promise of

priority for federal grants.

The Promise Zone in Kentucky

includes parts of eight counties

in the southeast part of the

state, where Tobey Miller lives.

Jerry Rickett led the effort to

apply for the

Promise Zone designation.

It's no secret that this part of

the country has been struggling

with a lot of these issues for

many years.

What is it about this Promise

Zone that you think is gonna

actually make a difference?

>> It gets back to the

partners all pulling together.

You know, one individual group

can only do so much, but if you

weave us together into a rope,

we can be really, really strong.

>> The people of the region have

said, "This is it.

We got to do something now, or

else we might not be able to

pull back."

>> In fact, the Promise Zone has

brought together a new coalition

of local governments, schools

and community organizations that

will implement the Promise Zone

goals -- diversifying the

economy, creating jobs, growing

small business, and improving

education and retraining.

The work is just getting

under way, but Rickett points to

a couple successful local

initiatives that show how the

Promise Zone could work.

>> We've got to get a

better-educated workforce,

we've got to help the adults

that, you know, need additional

training or retraining.

>> Especially unemployed coal

miners.

Many are leaving in droves to

find work.

So in Hazard, Kentucky, two

Promise Zone partners -- the

community college and a

job-training group -- launched a

new program to teach laid-off

miners to repair electricity and

phone lines.

So far, 39 have graduated and

almost every one has found a

job.

Tobey Miller is also retraining.

At his nearby community college,

he's earning an associate's

degree to repair heating,

air-conditioning, and

ventilation systems, or HVAC.

>> If I can, I'm gonna stay

right here and try to get

through this school that I'm

doing, because it's here.

HVAC work is here.

>> Miller says he wants to start

his own business one day.

Promise Zone supporters

say that's exactly what they

want, too.

>> We really believe in

entrepreneurship, trying to

get businesses to start, trying

to find ways to help the ones

that are here, you know, thrive.

It's really difficult to recruit

industries into

Eastern Kentucky.

>> Because it's so difficult to

recruit outside employers,

Rickett says they need to grow

their own.

Last year, Rickett's group got

an $800,000 federal grant, which

it then loaned to local

manufacturer Clyde Phillips.

He hired 19 people with that

money and plans to hire dozens

more.

When we're talking about

thousands of people losing their

jobs and thousands of people

already unemployed, will one or

two jobs here or a dozen jobs

there make that difference?

>> Well, it's the only

opportunity we have.

I think you have to work

within -- You have to be

realistic and work within the

areas that you can have progress

and success in.

>> I do get the sense that

there's greater energy and

enthusiasm to tackle the

problem.

But time will tell whether or

not it will ultimately pay off,

and, clearly, we're hoping that

it does.

>> I've never depended on

that before.

>> Like many others here,

Tobey Miller blames the

government for the coal layoffs,

but admits he's been helped by

federal programs, too.

A local Promise Zone partner

signed him up for

federally supported programs

that have helped pay

his mortgage and provide a

stipend for a few months.

>> It has been a very big bonus

for me.

I mean, it saved my bacon.

But the problem I have with it

is, if they'd left things alone,

everything would've still been

going along just fine.

>> Miller says his dream is to

save enough money to send his

youngest daughter to a four-year

college.

She'd be the first in the family

to go.

>> In urban areas across the

country, there's another aspect

of poverty to consider, known as

concentrated poverty.

It has existed for decades in

neighborhoods where jobs are

low-paying or even nonexistent.

But now in some of these areas,

local officials are working with

a who's who of the business

community to reverse the trend.

This report takes a close look

at how the city of Atlanta

is trying to tackle the issue.

Once again, Megan Thompson

reports.

>> Jimmy Williams has lived on

the southside of Atlanta for

most of his 37 years.

Even before he was born, white

residents of the neighborhoods

around here had begun leaving

for the suburbs.

And later, big employers, like a

nearby General Motors plant,

shut down.

Many areas around here have been

struggling for decades.

>> When I was growing up,

just...wow.

When I was growing up -- In some

of these streets you dare not

walk down.

Out of everybody that I grew up

with -- Let's see.

I can count probably about five

of them that's still living and

not in prison.

>> After high school, things

went south for Williams, too.

His father had died, his mom had

cancer and needed help paying

medical bills.

Williams' minimum-wage job at a

grocery store wasn't cutting it.

So Williams says he did the only

thing he could see to make

enough money to pay the bills.

He started dealing cocaine.

Did you see people doing what

you did around you when you grew

up?

Is that kind of how you --

>> Yeah, I mean, that was the

entire neighborhood.

That's what it was.

That was the whole neighborhood.

That's how I got into it.

>> He ended up in prison for

seven years.

His mother passed away when he

was in there.

>> And that's the worst thing

that could have ever happened to

me 'cause I think about that

every time I look at somebody

selling dope on the street, but

I'm like, "Don't you know the

people that you love can leave

you while you in the midst of

your destruction?

Don't you know that?"

>> Stories like Williams' are

common in many neighborhoods on

Atlanta's southside.

Experts say areas like this

around the nation suffer from

what they call concentrated

poverty.

>> It's a small number of

neighborhoods where you have a

large number of America's lowest

income people.

>> Rolf Pendall of

the Urban Institute in

Washington, D.C., says there's

been a dramatic increase in the

number of people living in

high-poverty neighborhoods,

almost 80% since 2000 --

Places where people with money

have fled and companies have

disinvested, much of it

compounded by a legacy of racism

and segregation, he says.

>> And those who are left behind

find themselves increasingly

isolated in neighborhoods where

no one wants to invest and few

people want to come in if they

have a choice.

The businesses don't want to

come in.

Employers don't want to locate

there.

So, those are neighborhoods

of -- kind of almost

neighborhoods of last resort.

It's extremely difficult for the

people who remain behind to get

ahead in the economy.

>> How to turn around areas of

concentrated poverty has been a

question American cities have

long grappled with.

But experts like Pendall point

to one approach in another

neighborhood about six miles

away on the eastside of Atlanta.

East Lake has become a model,

supported by America's second

richest person, investor

Warren Buffett.

>> And the American dream has

been very real for millions and

millions of people over the

years, but there's been an

American nightmare that has

accompanied that, and that's

where people that equally have

tried to get educated and worked

hard and had good habits have

found themselves living a life

that's been on the edge

throughout their entire lives,

and the same for their children.

And America can do better than

that.

>> In 2009, Buffett,

Atlanta real-estate developer

Tom Cousins, and former

hedge-fund manager

Julian Robertson helped fund a

new organization called

Purpose Built Communities.

The group now advises local

nonprofits and governments in

high-poverty areas in 11 cities,

including New Orleans, Columbus,

and Buffett's hometown of Omaha.

Its strategy is to fight

concentrated poverty on multiple

fronts all at once.

It often starts by tearing down

low-income housing projects and

replacing them with mixed-income

units.

But it goes beyond housing.

The model also includes building

new schools, providing health

and wellness initiatives, and

there's even job-placement

services, all of it coordinated

by a local nonprofit.

>> You couldn't do it piecemeal.

You really had to have something

that was transformative in

nature.

>> Purpose Built Communities'

work is modeled on what began as

an experiment on the eastside

of Atlanta back in the '90s --

A time when, across Atlanta and

the U.S., big public-housing

projects were being torn down

and replaced with mixed-income

developments.

>> In the 1980s, this was the

only community in the city that

I would not drive to alone.

I was terrified.

>> You were scared to come here.

>> I was scared to come here

alone.

>> Shirley Franklin is the

former mayor of Atlanta and now

the head of

Purpose Built Communities, the

group Warren Buffett supports.

So, when we talk about

concentrated poverty, this was

it.

>> This was one of the worst

examples.

>> The neighborhood was home to

a dangerous housing project

called East Lake Meadows, and

bordered a once-famous golf

course that had also fallen into

disrepair.

But step by step, Tom Cousins,

the City of Atlanta, and other

partners tried their experiment.

They knocked down

East Lake Meadows, and replaced

it with new apartments, half

subsidized, half market-rate.

They built a new charter school.

The wellness part was solved by

opening up a YMCA, and the

neighborhood's first grocery

store in 40 years.

There were job-placement

services for residents, too,

and the East Lake Foundation

was launched to coordinate all

the work.

Like the other mixed-income

developments around Atlanta at

the time, there were also new

rules -- You had to have a job

to live there, and a criminal

record made it harder to get in.

East Lake began to change...

>> What happened at school

today?

>> ...and word was getting out

to people like Marilyn Hack, a

mother of three who was anxious

to move out of a high-poverty

neighborhood.

>> So, there's saying about

being a product of your

environment, and I was just

worried about that, that they'll

get caught up and they won't be

ambitious and they won't --

So that's why when they came

home, it was always, "Wash your

hands, get a snack, homework,"

always.

And I still do it to this day.

>> But you were afraid that no

matter how hard you tried, it

could be that this environment

might impact them in ways that

you just couldn't even control.

>> Yeah.

That's why when a neighbor came

and told me about this community

that, "Oh, there's some place

accepting applications and we

should try it."

>> In 2000, Hack moved into

East Lake.

The single mother who had been

making $10,000 a year as a

nurse's assistant earned two

associate's degrees and found a

new job with the help of the

East Lake job center.

Today, she makes $60,000 a year

as a registered nurse and has

her own business teaching CPR.

Her oldest two kids went to

college, one even got a PhD,

and her 18-year-old is going in

the fall, with a scholarship

from the East Lake Foundation.

>> And my big thing was we're

gonna get college degrees.

We are all gonna get college

degrees.

A two-degree minimum -- That was

my thought, my goal, my

everything.

>> Supporters say Marilyn's

story illustrates just how

East Lake has improved the lives

of the low-income people who

came to live there.

There are other measurements,

too.

Violent crime there is down by

90%, and student test scores

have risen dramatically.

A federal program is even now

trying an approach similar to

East Lake's.

The golf course was also

restored and today hosts the

culminating event during the

PGA Playoff Championships.

The club's proceeds help fund

the East Lake Foundation, which

continues the work in the

community, the work now being

replicated in other cities.

>> Here at East Lake, you have a

very wealthy man who's made this

his personal project.

You've got a very famous golf

course next door that's

generated millions of dollars to

help support the work.

Those are some really unique

circumstances here.

How can other cities replicate

the model when they might not be

so lucky?

>> Well, every city and every

community has some assets, and

our model does not require a

golf course.

And we have found that money is

not the hardest part of this.

The biggest obstacle is

committed leadership who's

willing to work across all

sectors and with all sectors of

the community to find a plan

that works for them.

>> The development at East Lake

didn't come without

controversies, either.

Rising property values mean the

surrounding areas become less

affordable.

And there are fewer apartments

for low-income families than

there used to be.

The original project had 650

subsidized units.

Today there are only 270 -- The

rest are market-rate.

One study found that many of the

people forced to leave when

housing projects were torn down

across Atlanta just ended up in

other high-poverty areas.

Did the project solve the

problem of concentrated poverty,

or were people pushed out?

Was the problem pushed to other

parts of Atlanta?

>> We have a problem, if we're

not willing to shake the whole

thing up.

In other words, if we're not

looking, we're not willing to

change the paradigm.

So the question is, "What might

work?"

We believe that you have to have

that mix of income, both to

attract the amenities and the

support, but also to well serve

the people who are at the lowest

end.

>> Some things need to change

around here.

>> Jimmy Williams hopes his

neighborhood on the southside

of Atlanta will change the way

the eastside has.

>> It's an apocalypse that's

happening around us every day,

and it's called poverty.

>> After prison, he started his

own contracting business and is

dedicated to improving the

impoverished neighborhoods

around here, rehabbing abandoned

homes, and building an urban

farm -- Doing what he can to

keep kids from falling into the

same traps that he did, traps

that just don't seem to go away.

>> Watch the entire

"Chasing The Dream" series

online, including stories about

manufacturing jobs returning to

South Carolina, efforts to

revitalize the rust-belt city of

Youngstown, Ohio, and how one

C.E.O. raised the minimum wage

of his employees to $70,000 a

year.

Visit pbs.org/chasingthedream.

♪♪

Affordable housing continues

to be a struggle for those in

poverty, and even for those we

might think of as a middle

class.

Nowhere is this more visible

than in the high-tech mecca of

Silicon Valley.

Faced with some of the most

expensive housing in the nation,

many residents have simply been

priced out of the market.

And amidst the wealth, some have

been forced into cars, vans, and

RVs as places to live.

Special Correspondent

Joanne Jennings reports on how

this trend exposes an unintended

consequence of an economic boom.

>> Mountain View, California, is

home to hundreds of technology

firms.

From NASA's Supercomputing

Division to tech giant Google,

which alone employs 20,000

people here.

The city's unemployment rate is

2.5% -- half the national

average.

And the median household income

tops $100,000 a year.

But there are perils to this

prosperity, says Mountain View

Mayor Pat Showalter.

>> So many people have come here

that the rents, just because of

supply and demand, have gone

through the roof.

>> The median rent for an

apartment or house is $4,390 a

month, a 54% jump since 2012.

>> It doesn't matter whether you

make, you know, $100,000 or not.

You haven't planned for a 54%

rent increase.

And it's caused a lot of people

to be displaced.

>> A small but growing number of

the city's 80,000 residents are

now living in recreational

vehicles, vans, and cars, like

these on this street next to a

park.

>> This is my home, and I'm

happy here.

>> 59-year-old Scott Whaley

moved out of his Mountain View

apartment into a minivan last

November when he lost his job

as a property manager.

>> I just moved into my van.

I said, you know, until I can

find a place.

This is my bedroom back here.

>> Whaley now lives in this

used 1997 RV he bought for

$10,000, depleting his savings.

>> Yes, I would love to have

a home, you know?

However, this is my home.

I'm not homeless.

>> A couple miles away, across

from an office park,

Marcia Christlieb also makes

her home in an RV.

And this is bigger than some of

the studios that you've looked

at?

>> It is.

>> Even though she earns

$65,000 a year as an

environmental consultant for

NASA, Christlieb says it's not

enough to support her and

husband, Dennis, who's looking

for work.

>> The only apartment we've

looked at so far that looks like

it was in a safe neighborhood

for almost $2,400 a month.

So that's a huge portion of a

salary, and we're just gonna

have to give up other

conveniences.

I still can only afford the

things I could afford when I was

making minimum wage 'cause

everything else goes to rent.

>> The Christliebs tried to park

their RV at a proper campsite,

but the only facility in

Mountain View that provided

power and water hookups is now a

construction site.

It closed last year after a

developer bought the property to

build million-dollar townhouses.

This summer, the city of

Mountain View counted 126

vehicles being used as homes.

>> It's very difficult to get

good numbers because homeless

individuals are often trying to

remain hidden.

>> Tom Myers is executive

director of Mountain View's

community services agency.

>> People living in vehicles to

this type of degree and number

is completely new and completely

unheard of in this community.

So people living in their

vehicles is something that we

are really, as a community,

ill-equipped to be able to

handle.

>> [ Chuckles ]

>> Delmi Ruiz is preparing

dinner in the cramped RV she

moved into with her husband and

three kids last November.

Ruiz has worked as a housekeeper

in Mountain View for 10 years.

Her husband cleans offices.

She says the landlord of her

last apartment raised their rent

three times in the year before

they moved out.

>> [ Speaks Spanish ]

>> Interpreter: The rent started

increasing, and we were no

longer able to pay for it.

>> So, why do you stay in

Mountain View?

>> Interpreter: Because we've

always lived in Mountain View.

Before, it was possible to live

here and pay for rent because

it was cheap.

But it's become impossible to

live here.

>> For other displaced residents

who choose to stay in

Mountain View, even an RV is too

expensive.

Dwayne Golstein makes $30,000 a

year as a pathology lab

technician, but he lived in this

rented minivan for two months.

It was retrofitted with a

mattress and window curtains.

He says it was cheaper and had

more privacy than the boarding

house where he'd lived before.

>> $200 a week for a bunk bed in

a room with five other bunk

beds.

>> He saved money, but it wasn't

easy.

>> I really had to sit down and

be honest with myself and say,

"Could I get up every day and

take the necessary, you know,

discipline to not eat after a

certain hour?"

Make sure that I charge my

devices every evening.

Get up in time to, if I need to,

move the van because of parking

tickets and so forth -- do that.

On top of the everyday rigors of

getting dressed and being

presentable for my employment.

>> To keep himself clean and

presentable, for $35 a month,

Golstein joined a 24-hour gym

with showers.

>> It's usually cold in the

evening times when I go to the

gym or when I come in, so I keep

my sweaters.

This is my laundry which I'll

take to the laundromat once a

week.

>> For those living in vehicles

who can't afford a gym

membership, the nonprofit

Dignity on Wheels offers

mobile shower and laundry

services.

For his part, Golstein has moved

back into a shared apartment.

Some Mountain View residents

living in vehicles can easily

afford an apartment, but choose

to save money and rough it.

Brandon, who's 23 and declined

to give his last name, earns

$175,000 a year as a software

engineer.

We agreed not to name his

employer.

He sleeps in this windowless

moving truck parked a few blocks

from his office in

Mountain View.

He says he has all the amenities

he needs at work.

>> So, there are gyms on the

campus where I work.

There are showers at the gyms,

naturally.

They have cafés where you can

grab breakfast, lunch, and

dinner.

So, I thought it didn't make a

lot of sense for me to replicate

that whole environment at home,

especially when I wouldn't even

be taking advantage of it.

>> Brandon's been living in his

truck for more than a year and

writing a blog about his

experience called

"From Inside the Box."

>> It's like a substantial sum

of money that I would have just

been, effectively, burning on

rent.

There's no equity being built up

on anything.

>> The savings helped Brandon

pay off his $20,000 student-loan

debt.

He's now maxing out

contributions to his retirement

plan.

A lot of people are blaming the

high cost of housing on the tech

companies and on the tech

workers.

>> Yeah.

You have all these high-paid

workers coming into the area.

People or landlords know they

can charge more for rent.

Yeah, I mean, it ends up

becoming totally unsustainable

and intractable for people who

don't have the sort of resources

that these tech workers have.

So I think they're perfectly

justified in blaming us.

>> As the largest employer in

Mountain View, Google recognizes

its high salaries have

contributed to an inflated

housing market.

Rebecca Prozan is a public

policy manager at the company's

San Francisco office.

>> Obviously, our footprint

creates pressure, creates

pressure on housing and

transportation, but that

pressure isn't just tech --

It's not just Google.

It is all the industries that

are creating the economy of the

Bay Area.

We all have to work together to

figure out what we are going to

look like and how we're going

to live.

>> Prozan didn't want to address

published reports about a

handful of its employees living

in vehicles to save money.

>> I think the issue is that we

don't necessarily want to

comment on our employees

participating in those

activities.

>> But, she said, Google is

committed to addressing the

problem of homelessness in the

Bay Area.

In Mountain View alone, the

company has pledged $1 million

for a rapid rehousing program.

>> This specific grant will work

to help those who are on the

fringes, either about to lose

their home or about to get into

a home, in the form of

time-limited payments, motel

rooms, things of that nature, to

really make sure that people are

able to have a home and not live

in a car.

>> Several California cities

have prohibited people from

living in vehicles parked on

public streets.

But in 2014, a federal appeals

court struck down a Los Angeles

law that it said...

That caused L.A. and other

cities to rescind their bans.

Certainly, Mountain View

officials hear their share of

complaints.

>> I have mixed feelings.

You know, I feel sorry for the

people that are there, but

it's kind of -- We pay a ton of

rent to live in our building, so

it's kind of -- There's like a

lot of garbage and kind of stuff

around.

>> The sites I saw were mostly

clean, and people living in

vehicles say the police have

been tolerant.

Mountain View Mayor

Pat Showalter says her approach

is to offer help, not

punishment.

>> The intent is to get

everybody the shelter that they

need.

It just doesn't seem like

impounding somebody's vehicle,

charging them many, many dollars

to get it back when they don't

have much money to start with,

and it just seems like, how does

that help?

What's the value of that?

>> On any given night in the

United States, there are about

600,000 people who are homeless.

And according to the Federal

Department of Housing and Urban

Development, more than a third

of them are families -- men,

women, and children.

They sleep in shelters or, if

there's no space, even outdoors.

A growing number of cities are

cracking down on the homeless

sleeping in the streets or in

parks.

One of them is Sarasota,

Florida, where sleeping outside

can lead to a police citation

or even an arrest.

Special Correspondent

Karla Murthy looks at this

contentious issue.

>> Morning.

>> David Cross has lived on the

streets of Sarasota, Florida,

since 2008, when he lost his

home to foreclosure.

The 65-year-old former

gas-station worker now spends

most of his days at the local

library.

>> The library is a safe place.

It's air-conditioned.

You don't have to be bothered by

the so-called riffraff.

>> One night in August, he slept

outside the library, which he

did from time to time.

What time was it when you got

woken up by the police?

>> About 10 past 4:00 in the

morning.

I was sleeping right there.

>> The police issued a trespass

warning, which would have banned

Cross from the library for an

entire year.

>> I wouldn't have known what to

do with myself.

>> The reason Sarasota Police

cited for his warning was a city

ordinance against lodging

out-of-doors, which prohibits

sleeping or camping outside on

public or private property

without permission.

Across the country, advocates

say a growing number of cities

have been criminalizing

homelessness.

According to a survey by the

National Law Center on

Homelessness & Poverty, the

number of cities with city-wide

bans on camping or sleeping

outside has increased 50% since

2011.

>> Being homeless is not a crime

in this country.

>> Michael Barfield is

Vice President of Florida's

chapter of the

American Civil Liberties Union.

In September, the ACLU sued

Sarasota on behalf of

David Cross and others,

arguing...

The suit also challenges

Sarasota's ban on panhandling,

arguing that it...

>> They accumulate criminal

convictions that affect their

ability to obtain employment, to

obtain a valid driver's license.

All of these things that would

help them get out of the cycle

of chronic homelessness, the

city is using as tools that keep

them within that cycle.

>> Sarasota is called paradise

by the people who live here.

It's become one of the top-rated

places to retire.

But like many cities around the

country, it's found itself in

the middle of a debate for how

to treat the growing number of

people here living on the

streets.

There are more than 300 people

in the city of Sarasota

classified as "chronically

homeless," meaning they've been

on the streets for more than a

year.

Altogether, there are about

1,400 homeless people in

Sarasota County, an increase of

nearly 70% since 2009.

After the lodging ordinance

passed in 2005,

the National Coalition for the

Homeless declared Sarasota "The

meanest city in the country."

In 2011, the city removed

benches from a park popular

among homeless people.

>> We're trying to deal with the

situation in the most

humanitarian way that we can.

>> Tom Barwin has been the

city manager since 2012 and says

that "meanest city" label is

outdated.

>> As far as these labels,

"Meanest city X or Y" --

I mean, it's really the police

departments and the community

having very few other options or

choices to try to keep the

peace.

>> Police Chief

Bernadette DiPino says her

department is responding to

calls about the homeless from

the community.

>> It was an issue because of

the complaints we got from

citizens about people sleeping

and doing other things in their

doorways and panhandling and

being aggressive in begging for

money, and people sometimes are

just scared by homeless just by

the way they smell or the way

they look or the way they're

acting, so we get a lot of

complaints.

>> But Chief DiPino she says the

city has altered its approach.

Citations for lodging

out-of-doors have fallen nearly

80% since she took over the

department in 2013.

>> Our police department really

shouldn't be the first person

dealing with an individual

that's homeless, although we do

it because we are the ones that

are on the street 24 hours a

day, seven days a week.

>> Last year, the police

department and the city

created HOT teams that pair

officers with caseworkers to

connect the homeless with

available services.

I followed a HOT team as it

patrolled a densely wooded area

on the outskirts of Sarasota

where a group of homeless people

had set up an illegal

encampment.

>> Good morning.

>> Instead of issuing citations,

the HOT team provides

information.

>> You have our cards right

there -- Resurrection House.

I'm at the

Health Department on Wednesdays.

>> Calvin Collins is

a HOT team social worker who

works with the homeless all over

the city.

>> Oftentimes, they suffer from

either mental illness or

substance-abuse issues, and we

just have to continue to

motivate them.

And many of these folks have

said, "You know, I don't want

help.

I'm happy where I am."

But we have to continue to

engage them and hopefully one

day, they'll want to change

their situation.

>> Officer Dave Dubendorf says

HOT teams check up on this camp

about once a week.

>> These guys all know me by

first name.

I know them by first name.

They feel very trusting.

They're easy around me.

>> And this guy's gonna help me

get out of here.

>> This guy needs to help

himself get out of here, too.

>> Yep. I know.

>> Officer Dubendorf says the

anti-lodging ordinance is just a

tool in his toolbox.

>> Sometimes we need that tool

to try to drive somebody to want

to get help, 'cause a lot of

these guys, we've been working

at it for years and years.

I mean, if we can use that, it

may not be the right thing, but

you know what?

If it gets them to want to get

back up on their feet and be

safe, I'm all for it.

>> In downtown Sarasota, the

HOT team engages with some

people near the bus station,

including 52-year old

Dorothy Meehan.

>> What do you need to get all

that stuff?

>> Um...

>> Meehan gets around in a

wheelchair since she was

injured in a hit-and-run

accident last year.

Sarasota police have issued her

more than 50 citations, mostly

for minor offenses including

drug possession and carrying an

open container, but also for

lodging out-of-doors and

trespassing.

She's been jailed a dozen times.

>> The reasoning behind a lot of

the city ordinances really have

nothing to do with anything

criminal.

It's basically just that

somebody didn't want to see you

there.

>> Last month, the Florida ACLU

added Meehan as a plaintiff in

its lawsuit challenging the

policy of criminally citing

people for sleeping outside.

>> I understand if it's a

nuisance, all right, and you're

making a big mess or you're

causing a ruckus or there's,

you know, tons of people where

they can't control the

situation.

But if I'm sleeping by myself,

I'm sleeping -- I'm not fighting

with anybody, I'm certainly not

arguing, I'm not drinking,

you know?

I'm sleeping, and I don't see

what the crime is against that.

>> We've talked to a lot of

homeless people here in

Sarasota, and some have said,

"Yeah, you know, when we meet

the police, they are trying to

help us," and some of them don't

feel necessarily that way and

feel like they're just making it

a crime to be homeless.

What's going on there?

>> I really can't answer that,

because the homeless that I've

had dealings with and the

information that I've received

back from people that have gone

out and talked to the homeless

is very positive about our

police department.

Our officers are working very

hard to have relationships with

the people that are out on the

street and try to get them help.

>> It seems like this city has

really changed the way they're

dealing with homeless people in

terms of, you know, having a

caseworker go out with police

officers.

Has that made any difference?

>> I think it has made some

difference.

It is a positive sign.

But, at the same time, the city

is using this sort of

carrot-and-stick approach, and

they don't have the resources to

fulfill the promises they make

to people for assistance.

>> What resources are available

for the homeless in Sarasota is

the center of this debate.

There's only one large homeless

shelter in Sarasota, which is

run by The Salvation Army.

Ethan Frizzell is in charge.

>> So, what are we against?

Drinking, drugging, and dying on

our corner.

What are we for?

Housing.

>> The shelter is zoned for 260

beds, most of which are reserved

for people who enroll in

Salvation Army programs for

things like substance abuse and

help finding housing.

There is room for walk-ins to

stay overnight.

Most stay on these mats, which

are laid out in the cafeteria

after dinner.

Six beds are set aside for the

homeless brought in by the

police.

>> If they're drinking or

whatnot, this is fine.

>> The ordinance says that

before a citation or an arrest

is made, a police officer has to

offer to bring that person to a

shelter, which is usually

The Salvation Army.

But the Florida ACLU lawsuit

argues that the shelter is at or

above capacity most of the time.

>> You either have a shelter or

you don't criminalize behavior

that requires a shelter.

>> Are there days that we're

very full?

Yes, we are.

But it's because some people

come in on days of terrible

weather or whatnot, but they

don't want to come into any

program that will change their

lives or help them to housing.

>> Two years ago, the city of

Sarasota and the county agreed

to build a new emergency

shelter, but officials are now

at odds about the size and

location of any shelter.

The city is now considering a

"Housing First" approach, a

model that's been used in cities

around the country.

It places the chronically

homeless in permanent apartments

first and then offers support

services.

Sarasota estimates it would cost

less than the $10 million a year

the county currently spends on

treating or incarcerating the

homeless.

City Manager Tom Barwin says

he's confident the city's

ordinances pass constitutional

muster and calls the lawsuit a

distraction that misses the

larger national issue.

>> I don't think it's advancing

any solutions.

We've got this huge, gaping hole

in the mental-health

infrastructure.

That's the real problem, and

here in Florida, we're the

third-most populated state in

the country, yet we're 49th in

funding mental health.

>> David Cross appealed his

trespass warning to the police

and won, so Cross can still hang

out inside the library, but he

still worries about run-ins with

the police.

>> They're doing everything

possible to get the homeless

element out of the city.

>> So, then, why not leave?

>> Where am I gonna go?

It's beautiful here.

I'm 65 years old.

You come to Florida to retire.

>> In July of 2016, a federal

judge denied a request by the

city to dismiss the case,

meaning that law stays in effect

for now.

♪♪

Finally, what may seem an

obvious solution to some of the

problems of poverty -- helping

workers earn more money.

Perhaps overshadowed by the

contentious 2016 presidential

election, voters in Arizona,

Colorado, Maine, and Washington

all approved measures to raise

their state's minimum wage from

about $8 an hour to at least

$12 by 2020.

But even in those states, and

for some 4 million Americans who

rely on tips, those mostly

working in the food industry,

wages remain a serious issue.

With minimum-wage hikes on the

horizon, some restaurants are

pioneering no-tipping policies,

eliminating gratuities in

favor of higher hourly wages for

workers.

Last year, I traveled to

Minnesota and Wisconsin to see

how bartenders, servers, and

restaurant owners are dealing

with two different systems.

>> Hello, gentlemen.

How are you today?

>> Good. How are you?

>> Lesa Melby has been a

waitress at

Grandma's Restaurant Company in

Duluth, Minnesota, for 34 years.

>> Sounds good. All right.

>> How many tables can you

handle comfortably?

>> Kind of a lot. [ Laughs ]

>> A lot? How many?

>> I can comfortably do probably

nine.

>> Wow. That's impressive.

>> [ Laughs ]

>> Melby relies on tips as a

core part of her income, but she

also gets paid Minnesota's state

minimum wage of $9 an hour.

If you have a day when you get

completely stiffed on tips...

>> Mm-hmm.

>> ...you will still take home

your minimum wage.

>> Right. Right.

>> The federal minimum wage is

$7.25 an hour.

But in 43 states, employers are

allowed to pay tipped workers

less -- some as little as $2.13

an hour, a federal wage which

has not increased in 25 years.

The rationale is that customers'

tips are supposed to make up the

difference between $2.13 an hour

and the minimum wage.

And if the tipped employee

doesn't receive the minimum wage

through tips, employers are

required to pay the difference.

In the industry, it's called

"topping up."

In seven states, including

Minnesota, topping up is not

an issue because those states

require employers to pay tipped

workers the full minimum wage.

Tips are considered additional

income.

>> Right next door to Minnesota,

here in Wisconsin, there's a

different economic reality.

The state minimum wage for

tipped workers in Wisconsin is

$2.33 an hour.

>> Shannon Sorenson lives in

Eau Claire, Wisconsin, about an

hour's drive from the Minnesota

border.

She's been working as a waitress

for about six years, and her

current employer pays her a

little more -- $3 an hour before

tips.

She recently switched to working

part time.

>> There are some days the tips

are amazing, and there's days

that, you know, I'm making

probably compared to someone

with a four-year degree.

But then there's other days that

I'm making nothing.

It's so tough.

"I got the car payment.

I got the bill payment.

Oh, I got the car insurance

payment, too.

Oh, wait, I also need to eat,

too."

>> Do you think you could

survive being a server in

Wisconsin full-time?

>> It would be a very stressful

life -- very stressful, living

paycheck to paycheck, never

really knowing what I'm gonna

make.

I don't want that.

>> Now Sorenson wants to finish

her college degree and pursue a

career in interior design.

She likes being a waitress and

her bosses, but she rarely makes

enough to support herself.

>> People just don't understand

how much work goes into being a

waitress, and just the days I

don't get a lot of money,

it's just -- It is so hard.

And everything becomes more

expensive, so it's harder and

harder, but...

>> David Cooper has been

studying tipped labor for the

Economic Policy Institute, a

nonpartisan, Washington

think tank.

Cooper says almost 15% of tipped

servers earn less than the

federal poverty line.

But in states that pay higher

base wages, tipped workers, like

Lesa Melby in Minnesota, are

faring better.

>> What we see in those states

is that the poverty rate among

tipped workers is dramatically

lower than in the states where

they're getting the $2.13 per

hour as their base wage.

So, what that tells us is

that, you know, even though, in

theory, these folks in the other

states are supposed to be

getting at least the normal

minimum wage, something isn't

adding up.

>> Even though employers are

supposed to top up and make

sure tipped workers earn the

full minimum wage, Cooper says

they don't always do so.

>> You have to do this

additional calculation of

adding up their tips and

counting their hours and making

sure that the base wage plus

tips equals the full minimum

wage, and it's complicated.

And it's also complicated for

employers, too, because the law

isn't entirely clear about how

to do this calculation.

>> The Federal Labor Department

has looked into this question.

In the past three years,

tip-credit violations were found

in over 1,500 investigations

resulting in nearly

$15.5 million in back wages

being identified.

Employers are supposed to match

up to the minimum wage if you

don't make it.

>> I did not know that.

>> What if someone said to you,

"Wow, we're going to be just

like your neighbors over there

in Minnesota and you're gonna

get minimum wage as your base

salary, plus your tips"?

>> I would love that.

I actually know some people who

used to work in Minnesota as a

server, and then they came over

here, and they realized that

they're only making $2.33.

And they're like, "I'm literally

losing thousands of dollars by

coming over here in Wisconsin."

>> I need a little more

dressing.

>> At the Butter Bakery Cafe in

Minneapolis, Minnesota, waiter

Andrew Dunn says being paid the

state's required

$9-an-hour minimum wage before

tips is a crucial safety net.

>> The amount I'm working is the

maximum that I can work right

now, and I pay all my bills but

not a lot more.

So it would be very hard to have

my base wage slip below the

minimum wage.

We have those slow mornings,

where hardly anybody comes in

and your tips are really low.

>> In terms of the percentage

you take home, on your best day,

what percentage is base wage

and what percentage is tip?

>> On the best day, I would say

that my base wage is about half

and my tips are about half, and

on the worst day, my base wage

is about three quarters of what

I take home and my tips are

about a quarter.

>> Butter Bakery Cafe is not a

full-service restaurant, so

there's less opportunity for

tipping servers.

Owner Dan Swenson-Klatt says

paying his workers a living wage

has always been a priority.

>> Currently, I have to pay a

little more, because they don't

see the same level of tips.

If I knew they were getting a

lot more tips, I might look at

dropping my base wage a bit

more.

'Cause, ideally, it's about

what they make totally,

the total compensation.

>> At

Grandma's Restaurant Company in

Duluth, where servers can make a

higher amount of tips,

Lesa Melby is afraid that her

customers will tip her less if

they learn of her minimum wage

increases.

>> I make more money off of my

tips than I do my paycheck,

and if people are going to think

that I'm getting a higher

minimum wage, they're gonna

start tipping less or not at

all.

>> And Grandma's Regional

Manager Tony Boen says that the

requirement to pay servers

minimum wage has had unintended

consequences at their six

restaurants.

For one, it has increased the

wage disparity between the

serving and kitchen staff.

>> The mandated minimum-wage

increase was giving an increase

to our most highly compensated

employees, at the peril of our

cooks and the guys in the back

of the house, who didn't make

tips.

So we needed to find a way --

And we still need to find a way

to bridge that wage disparity.

So that's a huge challenge for

us and how can we do that?

>> They've raised prices to

cover the higher labor costs for

their 400 to 600 employees.

The number fluctuates depending

on the season.

But Boen says that's not enough

to keep up with ongoing

mandatory minimum-wage jumps.

The next one will be in August

from $9 to $9.50 an hour.

>> Have you ever had a customer

say, "Hey, why are your prices

going up?"

>> No. They don't say that.

>> What do they say?

>> They just don't come.

We've cut jobs.

We've cut hours.

We closed three restaurants.

They became unprofitable due

to minimum wage, plus some other

factors, but that was a huge

factor.

>> On the other hand, employment

in the hospitality industry in

states that pay full minimum

wage to tipped workers actually

saw stronger growth from 1995 to

2014 than in states that pay

less.

When we talk about raising the

minimum wage, what can we do to

help the restaurant owner?

>> I think as long as you phase

in those increases over time, it

gives businesses time to adjust.

When you raise the minimum wage,

all of the competitors are also

facing that additional labor

cost.

So, presumably, they should be

able to pass that additional

cost on through higher prices,

and no one's going to be at a

competitive disadvantage.

You now, I think that the

tipping system creates some

unique challenges in there,

because at a higher-end

restaurant, they know that the

clientele probably has a little

more money to spend, they can

absorb those price increases a

little more easily.

At a, you know, more

family-dining restaurant, it

might be a little harder to

absorb those increases.

>> Some restaurants are

addressing the wage issue by

paying servers like other

employees -- waitstaff receive

a higher hourly rate than the

minimum wage, but the restaurant

has a no-tipping policy.

>> Rib eye, nine.

>> That's how chef and

restaurant owner

Erick Harcey runs his two

Minneapolis restaurants.

Customers at his Victory 44 and

Upton 43 are told they should

not leave a tip.

>> A lot of it was just sort of

trying to get in front of some

of the change, the policy.

The minimum wage is going up.

>> Servers at his restaurants

are paid a starting base salary

of $17 an hour.

To cover the cost, he raised his

prices 18% -- about the

equivalent of a tip at his

restaurant.

The no-tipping policy also helps

him pay the kitchen staff higher

wages.

>> For the servers, it may have

averaged out slightly -- some

are making more, some maybe

slightly less, but it's

guaranteed.

But for the cooks, the

dishwashers, the hosts --

They're making substantially

more than they have in the past.

>> We are gratuity-free, so the

number here is your total

for the evening.

>> How are you gonna know when

this has been a success?

>> I feel it's a success

already.

>> Really? Why?

>> The success I'm gauging is

the feedback from the guests.

They're just -- They love

the experience, and when they

leave and say, "You know what?

This was phenomenal service," it

had no relevance -- They're not,

"Oh, it was better 'cause there

was no tips."

They're just stating, "This was

great service."

And then, at the end of the

night, I -- You know, I count my

cash in the register.

That's the success.

♪♪

>> That's our program for

tonight.

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administration in Washington,

poverty, jobs, and opportunity

are likely to continue to be

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and months ahead, and we hope

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I'm Alison Stewart.

Thanks for joining us.

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