>> Sreenivasan: EARLIER THIS
MONTH, PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED A
$1.9 TRILLION AMERICAN RESCUE
ACT INTO LAW.
IT'S THE THIRD RELIEF PACKAGE
FOR AMERICANS SINCE THE
CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC TOOK HOLD.
THOSE CHECKS, WHICH BEGAN
ROLLING OUT LAST WEEK, WILL GO
DIRECTLY TO FAMILIES THAT
QUALIFY.
THE ADDED RELIEF IS ALSO PIQUING
INTEREST IN THE CONCEPT OF
UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME.
EVEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, SOME
CITIES, LIKE STOCKTON,
CALIFORNIA, WERE ALREADY
EXPERIMENTING WITH A GUARANTEED
INCOME PROGRAM, AND SHOWING
SIGNS OF SUCCESS.
NOW, MORE CITIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY ARE SIGNING ON.
NEWSHOUR WEEKEND'S ZACHARY GREEN
VISITED ONE IN NEW YORK TO LEARN
MORE.
THIS SEGMENT IS PART OF OUR
ONGOING SERIES "CHASING THE
DREAM: POVERTY AND OPPORTUNITY
IN AMERICA."
(TRAIN HORN )
>> Reporter: JUST TWO HOURS AWAY
FROM NEW YORK CITY, HUDSON, NEW
YORK-- A SMALL CITY OF ABOUT
6,000 PEOPLE-- IS A PRIME
WEEKEND GETAWAY SPOT, BUT IT'S
ALSO THE SITE OF ONE OF THE
COUNTRY'S FIRST CITYWIDE
EXPERIMENTS IN UNIVERSAL BASIC
INCOME, OR U.B.I.
LAST OCTOBER, 25 HUDSON
RESIDENTS BEGAN RECEIVING $500
A MONTH.
JOAN HUNT IS THE DIRECTOR OF
HUDSONUP, THE CITY'S GUARANTEED
INCOME PILOT.
IT RECEIVES ITS FUNDING FROM THE
SPARK OF HUDSON FOUNDATION AND
FORMER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATE ANDREW YANG'S
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, HUMANITY
FORWARD.
>> THE QUESTION IS ALWAYS, "SO,
WHY HUDSON?"
AND I THINK THERE WAS INTEREST
FROM BOTH PARTIES IN SORT OF THE
SIZE AND SCALE OF THE COMMUNITY
HERE IN HUDSON AND THE POTENTIAL
OF A PILOT LIKE THIS-- AND
DEFINITELY THE NEED.
>> Reporter: LIRA CAMPBEL IS A
RETIRED EDUCATOR WHO HAS LIVED
IN HUDSON SINCE 2002.
SHE SAYS THAT NEED BECAME CLEAR
TO HER NOT LONG AFTER MOVING
HERE, WHEN SHE WAS SPEAKING WITH
A FRIEND.
>> SHE SAID, "YEAH, I GOTTA
MOVE.
SOMEONE FROM THE CITY CAME AND
BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
THE NEW OWNERS RAISED THE RENT
AND I CAN'T AFFORD IT."
THAT WAS THE FIRST STORY OF
MANY.
>> Reporter: ACCORDING TO THE
REAL ESTATE WEBSITE ZILLOW, THE
AVERAGE HOME VALUE IN HUDSON
WENT UP BY NEARLY 60% IN THE
PAST TEN YEARS.
DURING THAT TIME, THE MEDIAN
HOUSEHOLD INCOME FOR HUDSON
RESIDENTS STAYED BELOW $40,000
A YEAR.
AND DESPITE A RELATIVELY LOW
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, ABOUT 23% OF
HUDSON'S POPULATION LIVES IN
POVERTY.
SINCE 1990, ROUGHLY 2,000 PEOPLE
HAVE MOVED AWAY.
HUDSON'S MAYOR, KAMAL JOHNSON,
SAYS THAT GENTRIFICATION IS
DRIVING THE EXODUS FROM THE
CITY.
>> WE SEE A LOT OF TRANSPLANTS
FROM NEW YORK CITY AND FROM
OTHER BIG CITIES THAT ARE NOW
COMING HERE.
AND THAT'S TOUGH ON THE PEOPLE
THAT GREW UP HERE.
YOU SEE A LOT LESS OF THE PEOPLE
YOU WENT TO SCHOOL WITH BECAUSE
THEY'RE FORCED TO MOVE TO THE
OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY.
>> Reporter: EVEN IN THE MIDST
OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE
RESULTING FINANCIAL CRISIS,
HUDSON HOME VALUES ROSE BY 10%
SINCE LAST YEAR.
MEANWHILE, LONGTIME RESIDENTS
ARE FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO STAY
IN THE CITY WITHOUT GOVERNMENT
ASSISTANCE.
>> IT'S BECOME REALLY HARD FOR
FAMILIES TO FIND AFFORDABLE
SPACES OUTSIDE OF SUBSIDIZED
HOUSING.
>> Reporter: CLAIRE COUSIN GREW
UP IN HUDSON AND NOW SITS ON THE
CITY'S HOUSING AUTHORITY.
>> MOST PEOPLE THAT HAVE
CHILDREN ARE ONLY LOOKING TO GET
ON WAIT LISTS FOR SUBSIDIZED
HOUSING, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY
THING THAT IS SUSTAINABLE AND
AFFORDABLE FOR THEM.
I'VE KNOWN PEOPLE THAT HAVE
CONTACTED ME FOR HELP AS AN
ADVOCATE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ON
THE WAIT LIST FOR THREE YEARS,
AND THEIR ONLY ALTERNATIVE IS TO
SQUEEZE THEIR FAMILIES INTO
SMALLER APARTMENTS FOR HIGHER
RENTS.
>> Reporter: THAT'S WHERE JOAN
HUNT SAYS THE HUDSONUP PILOT CAN
FILL IN THE GAP.
>> WE SEE U.B.I. AS A REAL
OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO STAY IN
THEIR COMMUNITY, TO BE ABLE TO
MAYBE TAKE ON A LITTLE BIT OF AN
EXTRA BURDEN WHEN IT COMES TO
RENT.
>> Reporter: THE CONCEPT IS
SIMPLE: FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS,
25 HUDSON RESIDENTS WILL RECEIVE
$500 A MONTH, DIRECT DEPOSITED
EITHER INTO AN ACCOUNT AT A
LOCAL CREDIT UNION OR ONTO A
PREPAID DEBIT CARD.
THE PARTICIPANTS CAN THEN SPEND
OR SAVE THE MONEY IN ANY WAY
THEY SEE FIT.
I CAN HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE BEING
LIKE, "YOU'RE GIVING PEOPLE $500
A MONTH AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO
DO ANYTHING FOR IT?
PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE SPENDING
THEIR MONEY ON THINGS THAT THEY
DON'T NEED."
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO SOMEBODY WHO
HAS THOSE OBJECTIONS?
>> THERE'S A HISTORY OF JUDGMENT
WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE IN
POVERTY, AND THIS MISCONCEPTION
THAT PEOPLE WITH LIMITED
RESOURCES DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE
DECISIONS THAT ARE BEST FOR THEM
AND THEIR FAMILIES.
WHEN, IN FACT, THEY'RE THE
EXPERTS IN THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE
AND THEY DO KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR
THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
>> Reporter: HUDSONUP PUT THE
WORD OUT ABOUT THE PROGRAM
THROUGH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS AND
ADVOCATES-- INCLUDING CLAIRE
COUSIN, WHO ALSO HEADS UP THE
BOARD FOR THE GRASSROOTS
HUDSON/CATSKILL HOUSING
COALITION.
>> IT SEEMED REALLY FAR-FETCHED.
SO, I SPENT MOST OF MY TIME
EXPLAINING IT TO OTHER FOLKS,
TRYING TO GET THEM TO NOT BE SO
SKEPTICAL, JUST TO APPLY.
>> Reporter: HUDSONUP ALSO WON
THE SUPPORT OF MAYOR KAMAL
JOHNSON, WHO HELD A VIRTUAL TOWN
HALL WITH ANDREW YANG LAST
SEPTEMBER TO EXPLAIN THE CONCEPT
OF UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME.
>> IF THIS TRIAL DEMONSTRATES
THAT PEOPLE LIVE BETTER AS A
RESULT OF SOMETHING AS STRAIGHT-
FORWARD AS GETTING $500 A MONTH
FOR FIVE YEARS, THERE IS NO
REASON THAT WE AS A COUNTRY
CANNOT MAKE THIS HAPPEN FOR
EVERYONE.
>> Reporter: EVENTUALLY, 488
ELIGIBLE HUDSON RESIDENTS
ENTERED THE LOTTERY FOR
HUDSONUP.
ONE OF THEM WAS LIRA CAMPBELL.
>> THEN I GET THIS
COMMUNICATION, "DON'T FORGET,
TONIGHT IS THE LAST NIGHT TO PUT
YOUR NAME IN FOR THE LOTTERY FOR
U.B.I."
AND I SAID, "I'M NOT DOING
THAT."
AND THEN MY MIND SAID, "WHY
NOT?"
>> Reporter: CAMPBELL FILLED OUT
AND SUBMITTED A SHORT
QUESTIONNAIRE.
FIVE DAYS LATER, SHE RECEIVED A
CALL TELLING HER THAT SHE HAD
BEEN CHOSEN AS ONE OF THE FIRST
25 HUDSONUP PARTICIPANTS.
>> WHEN IT HAPPENED, I WAS
TOTALLY THROWN OVER THE MOON.
I THINK I SCREAMED.
AND THEN I WENT AND I SAID TO MY
HUSBAND, "GUESS WHAT?
GUESS WHAT?
GUESS WHAT?"
BECAUSE I FELT LIKE I WAS GONNA
BURST.
>> Reporter: CAMPBELL SAYS THAT
EVEN THOUGH SHE AND HER HUSBAND
CAN AFFORD THE HOME THEY RENT IN
HUDSON, THE EXTRA $500 A MONTH
MADE A BIG IMPACT IN THEIR LIVES
DURING A TRYING TIME.
>> MY HUSBAND HAD BEEN DIAGNOSED
WITH CANCER.
SO, WHEN SOMEONE YOU LOVE AND
CARE ABOUT IS DIAGNOSED, A
FAMILY MEMBER, YOU WANT TO DO
EVERYTHING YOU CAN SO THEY CAN
BE HEALTHY AND SAFE AND GET
THROUGH IT.
AND THEN THE SECOND THING YOU
THINK ABOUT IS, "HOW AM I GOING
TO PAY FOR THIS?"
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AUTOMATICALLY
IT'S RADIATION, IT'S CHEMO, IT
MIGHT BE SURGERY.
SO, ALL THESE THINGS POP INTO
YOUR HEAD.
SO, WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT I WON,
I WAS LIKE, "GOD, YOU ARE SO
AMAZING, GOD, YOU ARE SO
AWESOME!"
LIKE, THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME.
>> Reporter: CAMPBELL SAYS THAT
RECEIVING A GUARANTEED INCOME
HAS ALSO IMPROVED HER PEACE OF
MIND AND HER OUTLOOK ON THE
FUTURE.
>> I CAN GO TO BED AT NIGHT AND
STOP THINKING, "HOW?
HOW AM I GONNA PAY FOR THIS?
HOW AM I GONNA GET THIS?
HOW I'M GONNA DO THIS?"
SO, IT TOOK AWAY THE HOW, AND IT
TOOK AWAY THE WORRIES.
IT JUST ALLOWS ME TO DO A LITTLE
BIT MORE AND TO SAVE A LOT MORE.
>> Reporter: IS THERE ANYTHING
IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU'RE SAVING
FOR?
>> I WANT TO BUY A HOUSE.
(LAUGHS )
THAT'S MY GOAL.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.
>> Reporter: HUDSONUP DIRECTOR
JOAN HUNT SAYS SHE'S SEEN
SIMILAR EFFECTS ON OTHER PROGRAM
PARTICIPANTS.
>> WE'VE HAD PARTICIPANTS USE
SOME OF THEIR U.B.I. FUNDS TO
REPAIR THEIR CAR, FOR EXAMPLE.
SOME FOLKS ARE SAVING THE FUNDS.
SOME FOLKS WERE ABLE TO GIVE
THEIR KIDS A VERY NICE CHRISTMAS
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG
TIME.
I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE
NONPROFIT SPACE SINCE 2006, AND
I HAVE NEVER SEEN A PROGRAM LIKE
GUARANTEED INCOME THAT PROVIDES
FAMILIES WITH WHAT THEIR MOST
BASIC NEED IS, WHICH IS
ADDITIONAL CASH.
>> Reporter: MAYOR KAMAL JOHNSON
IS NOW A MEMBER OF MAYORS FOR A
GUARANTEED INCOME, A NATIONWIDE
NETWORK OF CITY LEADERS-- MANY
OF WHOM ARE ALSO PURSUING
GUARANTEED INCOME PROGRAMS.
JOHNSON BELIEVES THAT HUDSON HAS
A BIG ROLE TO PLAY IN LEARNING
MORE ABOUT THE EFFICACY OF
U.B.I.
>> WE'RE THE LITTLE CITY WITH
BIG CITY ISSUES.
SO, WHATEVER HAPPENS HERE IS
MOST LIKELY HAPPENING IN OTHER
CITIES, BUT WE CAN KIND OF SEE
THE SCOPE OF HOW IT AFFECTS, AND
THE RESEARCH OF HOW PEOPLE ARE
SPENDING THEIR MONEY, YOU KNOW,
HOW THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH THE
COMMUNITY. WE CAN SEE THAT ON A
CLOSER LENS THAN IN SOMEONE
WHO'S A BIG CITY WHERE, YOU
KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE
THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL PROBABLY
LOSE THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO RESEARCH THROUGH THE
PROCESS.
>> Reporter: LIRA CAMPBELL--
WHOSE HUSBAND IS NOW IN
REMISSION-- HOPES TO SEE MORE
PEOPLE RECEIVING THE SAME
BENEFITS THAT SHE IS, SOON.
>> EVERYONE COULD USE A EXTRA
$500 IN THEIR POCKET UNLESS
THEY'RE MILLIONAIRES.
BECAUSE LIFE HAPPENS.
AND A LOT OF THE TIME, WHEN LIFE
HAPPENS, A LOT OF THE TIME,
WE'RE NOT PREPARED 'CAUSE WE
DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES.
WE DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL
RESOURCES TO BE PREPARED.
SO, I WOULD SAY, BE HAPPY FOR
ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO RECEIVES
THE GUARANTEED INCOME, BECAUSE
IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES LIFE
EASIER AND BETTER FOR EVERYONE.
AND WE SHOULD WANT THAT FOR EACH
OTHER.
IN THIS WORLD, WE SHOULD WANT
THAT.