Why minority-owned businesses are struggling to get PPP loans

The Paycheck Protection Program or PPP provides federally-backed forgivable loans to businesses whose revenues may be impacted by the COVID-19 crisis. According to the Center for Responsible Lending, little of the $659 billion fund has made it to Latino and Black-owned businesses, despite being the communities hit hardest by the crisis. NewsHour Weekend’s Ivette Feliciano reports.

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Hari Srenivasan:

The Small Business Administration and the Treasury Department announced yesterday that they will begin revealing the names of some businesses that received loans from the PPP – a reversal of policy. The Paycheck Protection Program provides federally-backed forgivable loans to businesses whose revenues have taken a hit due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Borrowers who received less than $150,000 will not have their identities revealed.

According to the Center for Responsible Lending most of the program’s $659 billion has already been disbursed, but little of that money has made it to Black and Latino-owned businesses. Many of these communities have been hit hard by the coronavirus.

NewsHour Weekend’s Ivette Feliciano spoke with some business owners to learn why it’s been so difficult for them to get federal assistance during this time

This segment is part of our ongoing series “Chasing the Dream: Poverty and Opportunity in America.”

Ivette Feliciano:

Two years ago, Bobby Price began his business, Principal Barbers, in the North Lawndale neighborhood of Chicago, where he was born and raised.

Bobby Price:

My neighborhood in Chicago is a long historical community. From being part of a white flight in Chicago, to Dr. King being in the neighborhood, this community has been a part of some very pivotal historical moments.

To build his business, Price needed money. When his commercial bank turned him down for a business loan, he turned to his community for support.

Bobby Price:

Fortunately, my pastor had some friends and some men I knew who were angel investors pretty much ready to go. And so when I made the decision, it seemed as if all the doors opened.

Ivette Feliciano:

With funds from community investors, Price rented a storefront in 2018 and began growing his business.

Last October, he got a micro-loan to buy new equipment from a Community Development Financial Institution, or a CDFI, called Accion in Chicago. Accion is one of 1,000 CDFI’s serving low-wealth neighborhoods across the country, and aims to fill the gap where mainstream lenders aren’t present. Brad McConnell is the CEO at Accion in Chicago.

Brad McConnell:

Our mission is to help neighborhood entrepreneurs grow. Unfortunately, we find that there are just far too many instances in which a small business owner in an underserved community doesn’t have access to the same types of wealth that is required in order to generate more wealth.

Ivette Feliciano:

By March, Price was just starting to make a profit. But then, the COVID-19 pandemic hit, and business came to a complete halt.

Bobby Price:

Everyone was hopeful, but the neighborhood itself pretty much shut down.

 Ivette Feliciano:

As part of the $2 trillion stimulus bill passed in late March, Congress created the Paycheck Protection Program, or PPP. The program provided $359 billion dollars’ worth of federally-backed business loans, which would be forgiven if the borrower spent 75% of the funding on payroll within 8 weeks.

The Treasury Department’s Small Business Administration runs the program. While the federal government guarantees the PPP loans, it’s the banks that actually put up the cash–the same banks that Bobby Price tried and failed to get capital from when he first started his business.

Price applied for a PPP loan when it was announced through Chase Bank. But when he tried to reach out to the bank for clarification about the program’s stipulations, he had little success.

Bobby Price:

There was no answer, no replies and e-mails. The largest questions were like, what were the expectations of paying it back? How to make it a grant, you know, instead of a loan? It just wasn’t clear.

Rodney Brown:

We filled out the applications, we did all the work. We thought we were in queue, but we weren’t.

Ivette Feliciano:

Rodney Brown is Executive Director of the New Covenant Community Development Corporation in Chicago. The non-profit helped small business owners apply for PPP loans, but Brown says many didn’t have the documents needed in order to qualify.

Rodney Brown:

What we found was some of them had not filed taxes. Some of them did not have a business plan. They didn’t understand what a financial statement was. Some had even been paying employees maybe in cash, not keeping records. So we had to help them with all those things.

Ivette Feliciano:

Brad McConnell at Accion says another obstacle for his clients was the requirement to spend 75% of their PPP funds on payroll in order to qualify for loan forgiveness.

Brad McConnell:

Payroll just isn’t a specifically large part of the way that a business thinks about its expenses, if you’re dealing with very, very few staff. When the Small Business Administration defines a small business as any entity that has five hundred or less in the number of employees that they have, then there’s a huge range.

Ivette Feliciano:

Typically, businesses owned by people of color are more likely to have few to no employees, and spend more money on other expenses like rent or utilities, according to the Center for Responsible Lending.

The SBA didn’t collect demographic data on who applied for and received PPP loans. But a national online survey of 500 Black and Latinx small business owners conducted for Color of Change and UnidosUS found that only 12% of those who applied for the Paycheck Protection Program loans received the funds they asked for.

Ivette Feliciano:

Eliuth Guzman was initially turned down for a PPP loan she hoped would keep her two-year-old catering business afloat. She said she had trouble getting the help she needed from her bank so eventually filled out the application on her own.

Eliuth Guzman:

I was disappointed because they didn’t really give me a reason, what was the reason I didn’t get the paycheck protection.

Ivette Feliciano:

Researchers at the Center for Responsible Lending say mainstream lenders prioritized their biggest clients, large to mid-sized businesses, which are primarily white-owned. As a result, the initial $359 billion dried up in two weeks.

And in a report released last month, the SBA Office of the Inspector General found that minority-owned businesses may not have received the loans as intended because the SBA failed to “provide guidance to lenders about prioritizing borrowers in underserved…markets…”

To address concerns regarding the Paycheck Protection Program, in late May, Congress passed legislation lowering the required amount that businesses must spend on payroll from 75 percent to 60 percent. It also extended the time that businesses can use their funds to qualify for loan forgiveness from eight weeks to 24 weeks.

The Small Business Administration declined an interview with PBS NewsHour Weekend. But in an email, the SBA said it is “… actively engaged in outreach to the CDFI… lending communities. To date, these institutions have approved over $15 billion dollars.” And, that “The SBA is providing [materials] in 17 languages other than English to help small businesses recover.”

Ivette Feliciano:

Eventually, Eliuth Guzman sought the help of Accion in Chicago to apply for the second round of PPP funding.

Eliuth Guzman:

I actually had a person walking me through the process. And a week later, I got the call from the bank and in a couple of days, they had transferred the money to my business account.

Ivette Feliciano:

Bobby Price also sought the help of a local community organization to fill out his second PPP loan application.

Bobby Price:

The relationships of the organizations and the community just made it happen. They understood that a lot of us, especially small businesses, were having a hard time.

Ivette Feliciano:

This time, Price was approved for $8,000, which he believes will be enough to carry him through as he attempts to adapt his business to the new normal.

TRANSCRIPT

>> Sreenivasan: THE SMALL

BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND THE

TREASURY DEPARTMENT ANNOUNCED

YESTERDAY THAT THEY WILL BEGIN

REVEALING THE NAMES OF SOME

BUSINESSES THAT RECEIVED LOANS

FROM THE P.P.P., A REVERSAL OF

POLICY.

THE PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM

PROVIDES FEDERALLY-BACKED

FORGIVABLE LOANS TO BUSINESSES

WHOSE REVENUES HAVE TAKEN A HIT

DUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

BORROWERS WHO RECEIVE LESS THAN

$150,000 WILL NOT HAVE THEIR

IDENTITIES REVEALED.

ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR

RESPONSIBLE LENDING, MOST OF THE

PROGRAM'S $659 BILLION HAS

ALREADY BEEN DISPERSED, BUT

LITTLE OF THAT MONEY HAS MADE IT

TO BLACK- AND LATINO-OWNED

BUSINESSES.

MANY OF THESE COMMUNITIES HAVE

BEEN HIT HARD BY THE

CORONAVIRUS.

NEWSHOUR WEEKEND'S IVETTE

FELICIANO SPOKE WITH SOME

BUSINESS OWNERS TO LEARN WHY

IT'S BEEN SO DIFFICULT FOR THEM

TO GET FEDERAL ASSISTANCE DURING

THIS TIME.

THIS SEGMENT IS PART OF OUR

ONGOING SERIES, "CHASING THE

DREAM: POVERTY AND OPPORTUNITY

IN AMERICA."

>> Reporter: TWO YEARS AGO,

BOBBY PRICE BEGAN HIS BUSINESS,

PRINCIPAL BARBERS, IN THE NORTH

LAWNDALE NEIGHBORHOOD OF

CHICAGO, WHERE HE WAS BORN AND

RAISED.

>> MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN CHICAGO

HERE IS A LONG HISTORICAL

COMMUNITY.

FROM BEING PART OF THE WHITE

FLIGHT IN CHICAGO, TO DR. KING

BEING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS

COMMUNITY HAS, LIKE, BEEN A PART

OF SOME VERY PIVOTAL HISTORICAL

MOMENTS.

>> Reporter: TO BUILD HIS

BUSINESS, PRICE NEEDED MONEY.

WHEN HIS COMMERCIAL BANK TURNED

HIM DOWN FOR A BUSINESS LOAN, HE

TURNED TO HIS COMMUNITY FOR

SUPPORT.

>> FORTUNATELY, MY PASTOR HAD

SOME FRIENDS AND SOME MEN I KNEW

WHO WERE ANGEL INVESTORS PRETTY

MUCH READY TO GO.

AND SO, WHEN I MADE THE

DECISION, IT SEEMED AS IF ALL

THE DOORS OPENED.

>> Reporter: WITH FUNDS FROM

COMMUNITY INVESTORS, PRICE

RENTED A STOREFRONT IN 2018 AND

BEGAN GROWING HIS BUSINESS.

LAST OCTOBER, HE GOT A

MICRO-LOAN TO BUY NEW EQUIPMENT

FROM A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, OR A

C.D.F.I., CALLED ACCION IN

CHICAGO.

ACCION IS ONE OF 1,000

C.D.F.I.s SERVING LOW-WEALTH

NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE

COUNTRY AND AIMS TO FILL THE GAP

WHERE MAINSTREAM LENDERS AREN'T

PRESENT.

BRAD McCONNELL IS THE C.E.O. AT

ACCION IN CHICAGO.

>> AND OUR MISSION IS TO HELP

NEIGHBORHOOD ENTREPRENEURS GROW.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE FIND THAT

THERE ARE JUST FAR TOO MANY

INSTANCES IN WHICH A SMALL

BUSINESS OWNER IN AN UNDERSERVED

COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO

THE SAME TYPES OF WEALTH THAT IS

REQUIRED IN ORDER TO GENERATE

MORE WEALTH.

>> Reporter: BY MARCH, PRICE WAS

JUST STARTING TO MAKE A PROFIT.

BUT THEN, THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC

HIT, AND BUSINESS CAME TO A

COMPLETE HALT.

>> YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WAS

HOPEFUL, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD

ITSELF PRETTY MUCH SHUT DOWN.

>> Reporter: AS PART OF THE

$2 TRILLION STIMULUS BILL PASSED

IN LATE MARCH, CONGRESS PASSED

THE PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM,

OR P.P.P.

THE PROGRAM PROVIDED

$359 BILLION WORTH OF

FEDERALLY-BACKED BUSINESS LOANS,

WHICH WOULD BE FORGIVEN IF THE

BORROWER SPENT 75% OF THE

FUNDING ON PAYROLL WITHIN EIGHT

WEEKS.

THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT'S SMALL

BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION RUNS THE

PROGRAM.

WHILE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

GUARANTEES THE P.P.P. LOANS,

IT'S THE BANKS THAT ACTUALLY PUT

UP THE CASH, THE SAME BANKS THAT

BOBBY PRICE TRIED AND FAILED TO

GET CAPITAL FROM WHEN HE FIRST

STARTED HIS BUSINESS.

PRICE APPLIED FOR A P.P.P. LOAN

WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED THROUGH

CHASE BANK.

BUT WHEN HE TRIED TO REACH OUT

TO THE BANK FOR CLARIFICATION

ABOUT THE PROGRAM'S

STIPULATIONS, HE HAD LITTLE

SUCCESS.

>> THERE WAS NO ANSWER, NO

REPLIES, NO E-MAILS.

THE LARGEST QUESTIONS WERE LIKE,

WHAT WERE THE EXPECTATIONS OF

PAYING IT BACK?

HOW TO MAKE IT A GRANT, YOU

KNOW, INSTEAD OF A LOAN?

IT JUST WASN'’T CLEAR.

>> WE FILLED OUT THE

APPLICATIONS, WE DID ALL THE

WORK, AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE IN

QUEUE, BUT WE WEREN'T.

>> Reporter: RODNEY BROWN IS

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NEW

COVENANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

CORPORATION IN CHICAGO.

THE NON-PROFIT HELPED SMALL

BUSINESS OWNERS APPLY FOR P.P.P.

LOANS, BUT BROWN SAYS MANY

DIDN'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTS NEEDED

IN ORDER TO QUALIFY.

>> WHAT WE FOUND WAS SOME OF

THEM HAD NOT FILED TAXES.

SOME OF THEM DID NOT HAVE A

BUSINESS PLAN.

THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A

FINANCIAL STATEMENT WAS.

THEY-- SOME HAD EVEN BEEN PAYING

EMPLOYEES MAYBE IN CASH, NOT

KEEPING RECORDS.

SO, WE HAD TO HELP THEM WITH ALL

THOSE THINGS.

>> Reporter: BRAD McCONNELL AT

ACCION SAYS ANOTHER OBSTACLE FOR

HIS CLIENTS WAS THE REQUIREMENT

TO SPEND 75% OF THEIR P.P.P.

FUNDS ON PAYROLL IN ORDER TO

QUALIFY FOR LOAN FORGIVENESS.

>> PAYROLL JUST ISN'T A

SPECIFICALLY LARGE PART OF THE

WAY THAT A BUSINESS THINKS ABOUT

ITS EXPENSES, IF YOU'RE DEALING

WITH VERY, VERY FEW STAFF.

WHEN THE SMALL BUSINESS

ADMINISTRATION DEFINES A SMALL

BUSINESS AS ANY ENTITY THAT HAS

500 OR LESS IN THE NUMBER OF

EMPLOYEES THAT THEY HAVE, THEN

THERE'’S A HUGE RANGE.

>> Reporter: TYPICALLY,

BUSINESSES OWNED BY PEOPLE OF

COLOR ARE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE

FEW TO NO EMPLOYEES AND SPEND

MORE MONEY ON OTHER EXPENSES

LIKE RENT OR UTILITIES,

ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR

RESPONSIBLE LENDING.

THE S.B.A. DIDN'T COLLECT

DEMOGRAPHIC DATA ON WHO APPLIED

FOR AND RECEIVED P.P.P. LOANS,

BUT A NATIONAL ONLINE SURVEY OF

500 BLACK AND LATINX SMALL

BUSINESS OWNERS CONDUCTED FOR

COLOR OF CHANGE AND UNIDOS U.S.

FOUND THAT ONLY 12% OF THOSE WHO

APPLIED FOR THE PAYCHECK

PROTECTION PROGRAM LOANS

RECEIVED THE FUNDS THEY ASKED

FOR.

ELIUTH GUZMAN WAS INITIALLY

TURNED DOWN FOR A P.P.P. LOAN

SHE HOPED WOULD KEEP HER

TWO-YEAR-OLD CATERING BUSINESS

AFLOAT.

SHE SAYS SHE HAD TROUBLE GETTING

THE HELP SHE NEEDED FROM HER

BANK SO EVENTUALLY FILLED OUT

THE APPLICATION ON HER OWN.

>> I WAS DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE

THEY DIDN'T REALLY GIVE ME A

REASON FOR-- WHY WAS THE REASON

I DIDN'T GET THE-- THE PAYCHECK

PROTECTION.

>> Reporter: RESEARCHERS AT THE

CENTER FOR RESPONSIBLE LENDING

SAY MAINSTREAM LENDERS

PRIORITIZED THEIR BIGGEST

CLIENTS, LARGE TO MID-SIZED

BUSINESSES, WHICH ARE PRIMARILY

WHITE-OWNED.

AS A RESULT, THE INITIAL

$359 BILLION DRIED UP IN TWO

WEEKS.

AND IN A REPORT RELEASED LAST

MONTH, THE S.B.A. OFFICE OF THE

INSPECTOR GENERAL FOUND THAT

MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESSES MAY

NOT HAVE RECEIVED THE LOANS AS

INTENDED BECAUSE THE S.B.A.

FAILED TO "PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO

LENDERS ABOUT PRIORITIZING

BORROWERS IN UNDERSERVED

MARKETS."”

TO ADDRESS CONCERNS REGARDING

THE PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM,

IN LATE MAY, CONGRESS PASSED

LEGISLATION LOWERING THE

REQUIRED AMOUNT THAT BUSINESSES

MUST SPEND ON PAYROLL FROM 75%

TO 60%.

IT ALSO EXTENDED THE TIME THAT

BUSINESSES CAN USE THEIR FUNDS

TO QUALIFY FOR LOAN FORGIVENESS

FROM EIGHT WEEKS TO 24 WEEKS.

THE SMALL BUSINESS

ADMINISTRATION DECLINED AN

INTERVIEW WITH PBS NEWSHOUR

WEEKEND, BUT IN AN EMAIL THE

S.B.A. SAID IT IS "ACTIVELY

ENGAGED IN OUTREACH TO THE

C.D.F.I. LENDING COMMUNITIES.

TO DATE, THESE INSTITUTIONS HAVE

APPROVED OVER $15 BILLION," AND

THAT "THE S.B.A. IS PROVIDING

MATERIALS IN 17 LANGUAGES OTHER

THAN ENGLISH TO HELP SMALL

BUSINESSES RECOVER."”

>> Reporter: EVENTUALLY, ELIUTH

GUZMAN SOUGHT THE HELP OF ACCION

IN CHICAGO TO APPLY FOR THE

SECOND ROUND OF P.P.P. FUNDING.

>> I REALLY HAD SOMEBODY THAT

WAS WALKING ME THROUGH THE

PROCESS.

AND A WEEK LATER, I-- I GOT THE

CALL FROM THE BANK.

AND, IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, THEY

HAD TRANSFERRED THE MONEY TO MY

BUSINESS ACCOUNT.

>> Reporter: BOBBY PRICE ALSO

SOUGHT THE HELP OF A LOCAL

COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION TO FILL

OUT HIS SECOND P.P.P. LOAN

APPLICATION.

>> THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE

ORGANIZATIONS AND THE COMMUNITY

JUST MADE IT HAPPEN, BECAUSE

THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT A LOT OF

US, ESPECIALLY SMALL BUSINESSES,

WERE HAVING A HARD TIME.

>> Reporter: THIS TIME, PRICE

WAS APPROVED FOR $8,000, WHICH

HE BELIEVES WILL BE ENOUGH TO

CARRY HIM THROUGH AS HE ATTEMPTS

TO ADAPT HIS BUSINESS TO THE NEW

NORMAL.