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k.d. lang – Landmarks Live in Concert

Premiere: 12/14/2018 | 00:03:52 |

Celebrate the 25th anniversary Ingénue, the critically acclaimed and GRAMMY®-award winning album by superstar singer-songwriter k.d. lang with a one-night-only performance from the magnificent Majestic Theater in downtown San Antonio, Texas.

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k.d. lang – Landmarks Live in Concert: A Great Performances Special Premieres Nationwide Friday, December 14 on PBS

Iconic singer-songwriter k.d. lang performs a 25th anniversary concert celebrating her critically acclaimed 1992 album “Ingénue” from the Majestic Theater in San Antonio, Texas, in k.d. lang – Landmarks Live in Concert – A Great Performances Special, premiering nationwide Friday, December 14 at 9 p.m. on PBS (check local listings).

Lush and subtle, “Ingénue” allowed lang and co-writer-producer Ben Mink to explore jazz, cabaret and Tin Pan Alley songwriting, resulting in some of her greatest compositions. This Landmarks Live in Concert special features an uninterrupted performance of the complete “Ingénue” album, including lang’s GRAMMY® Award-winning hit “Constant Craving,” “Save Me,” “Wash Me Clean,” “Season of Hollow Soul” and “Miss Chatelaine.” The concert also includes the beloved Leonard Cohen song “Hallelujah” and a previously unreleased song by lang and Joe Pisapia, “Sleeping Alone.” The special also features an interview with lang by James Reed, an entertainment editor at Los Angeles Times.

Twenty-six years ago, k.d. lang was embraced by the music world, its elders (including collaborators such as Tony Bennett and Roy Orbison) and audiences all over the globe for her powerfully emotional voice and often quirky take on country music.

“‘Ingénue’ was a change in vernacular and vocabulary in that it was personal—finding some romantic space,” said k.d. lang. “It was time. It was me. I had gotten to a time and point where I wanted to be me.”

“Working with k.d. to create such a personal and special piece is one of the highlights of my career,” said Landmarks Live in Concert director and executive producer Daniel E Catullo III. “This show is special in so many ways and I was honored to be able to work with k.d. to translate this show onto TV.”

Song List

“Save Me”

“The Mind of Love”

“Miss Chatelaine”

“Wash Me Clean”

“So It Shall Be”

“Still Thrives This Love”

“Season of Hollow Soul”

“Outside Myself”

“Tears of Love’s Recall”

“Constant Craving”


“Sleeping Alone”

The concert will be available to stream the following day via PBS Passport (contact your local PBS station for details) at and PBS apps. PBS Passport is a special benefit for PBS supporters to access an on-demand library of over 1,000 hours of quality public television programming. Viewer contributions are an important source of funding, making PBS programs possible. PBS and public television stations offer all Americans from every walk of life the opportunity to explore new ideas and new worlds through television and online programming. Contact your local PBS station for details on PBS Passport.

The concert DVD and Blu-ray also will be available December 14 via MVD Entertainment Group. k.d. lang’s “Ingénue: 25th Anniversary Edition” was released by Nonesuch Records last year in celebration of the double platinum-selling, GRAMMY Award–winning album’s silver anniversary. The two-disc set includes remastered versions of the album’s original 10 tracks as well as eight previously unreleased performances from lang’s 1993 MTV Unplugged episode, recorded in New York City’s famed Ed Sullivan Theater.

Created by documentary and live event producer/director Daniel E Catullo III, Landmarks Live in Concert features a lineup of global music superstars performing at landmark locations of either historical or personal significance around the world. Past episodes featured Alicia Keys at multiple locations around New York City, Brad Paisley at West Virginia University, Andrea Bocelli live at Florence’s Palazzo Vecchio, Foo Fighters at the Acropolis in Athens, Greece, and with the Black Eyed Peas and friends at London’s Royal Albert Hall.

Landmarks Live in Concert is a production of City Drive Films. Daniel E Catullo III, CEO of City Drive Films is creator, director and executive producer. The series is co-produced with Bungalow Media + Entertainment. Its CEO, industry veteran Robert Friedman also serves as executive producer. For Great Performances, Bill O’Donnell is series producer and David Horn is executive producer. Stephen Segaller is executive-in-charge for WNET.

Great Performances is produced by THIRTEEN Productions LLC for WNET, one of America’s most prolific and respected public media providers. Throughout its more than 40-year history on PBS, Great Performances has provided viewers across the country with an unparalleled showcase of the best in all genres of the performing arts, serving as America’s most prestigious and enduring broadcaster of cultural programming.

Major funding for Great Performances is provided by The Joseph and Robert Cornell Memorial Foundation, the Anna-Maria and Stephen Kellen Arts Fund, the Irene Diamond Fund, the LuEsther T. Mertz Charitable Trust, The Agnes Varis Trust, The Starr Foundation, the Kate W. Cassidy Foundation, Ellen and James S. Marcus, The Philip and Janice Levin Foundation and The Abra Prentice Foundation.

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♪♪ -♪ Constant craving ♪♪ ♪ Miss Chatelaine ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Whoa-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh-oh-oh ♪ ♪ Whoa-oh, oh-oh-oh-oh-oh ♪ ♪ Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh ♪♪ -Hello! Welcome to another edition of 'Landmarks Live in Concert.'

I'm James Reed of the and this is Ms. k.d. lang.


-Tonight's show was recorded live from San Antonio, Texas, at The Majestic Theatre, and we have a treat for you tonight.

It's actually, uh, k.d.

is going to be performing the album, 'Ingénue,' in its entirety from start to finish, and please stick around afterward.

We're going to talk all about it; everything you want to know and then some.

-And more.

[ Crowd cheering ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Save me ♪♪ ♪ Save me from you ♪ But pave me ♪ The way to you ♪♪ ♪ Lead me upon ♪ The captive free ♪ Gracious and tame ♪ Like love can be ♪ Lead me upon ♪ Spoil me ♪ Spoil me with you ♪ And soil me ♪ With the world of you ♪♪ ♪ Watch over me ♪ With a mother's eyes ♪ Judging my worth ♪ Only to glorify ♪ Watch over me ♪ Save me ♪ Save me ♪ Save me ♪ Save me ♪♪ [ Cheering ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Carry ♪ Carry me through ♪ And bury ♪ All my doubts ♪ Of you ♪ Clothe my desire ♪ With spell or prayer ♪ I'll shroud every sign ♪ Of need, I swear ♪ Clothe my desire ♪ Save me ♪ Save me ♪ Save me ♪ Save me ♪ Save me ♪ Save me [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪ Talking to myself here ♪ Causing great concern for my health ♪ ♪ Where is your head, Kathryn?

♪ Where is your head?

♪ I'm trying hard to escape this ♪ ♪ Constant pull towards ache ♪ Why do you fight, Kathryn?

♪ Why do you fight?

♪♪ ♪ Surely help will arrive soon ♪ ♪ To cure these self-induced wounds ♪ ♪ Why hurt yourself, Kathryn?

♪ Why hurt yourself?

♪ Why hurt yourself? ♪ ♪ Can your heart conceal?

♪ What the mind of love reveals ♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ I'm talking to myself again ♪ Causing great concern for my health ♪ ♪ Where is your head, Kathryn?

♪ Where is your head?

♪ Where is your head, Kathryn? ♪ ♪ Where is your head?

♪ Can your heart conceal ♪ What the mind of love reveals ♪ ♪ Can your heart conceal ♪ What the mind of love reveals ♪ -♪ What the mind of love ♪ Reveals [ Cheering and applause ] [ Sustains note ] ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Just a kiss, just a kiss ♪ I have lived just for this ♪ I can't explain ♪ Why I've become ♪ Miss Chatelaine ♪ Just a smile, just a smile ♪ Hold me captive just a while ♪ ♪ I can't explain ♪ Why I've become ♪ Miss Chatelaine ♪ Cause every time ♪ Your eyes meet mine ♪ Clouds of qualm ♪ Burst into sunshine ♪ A smile, a sigh ♪ Words my love ♪ Just reply ♪ I can't explain ♪ Why I've become ♪ Miss Chatelaine ♪ Ah ♪ Miss Chatelaine [ Instrumental ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ A smile, just a smile ♪ Hold me captive ♪ Just a while ♪ I can't explain ♪ Why I've become ♪ Miss Chatelaine ♪ Cause every time ♪ Your eyes meet mine ♪ Clouds of qualm ♪ Burst into sunshine -♪ Ah -♪ Miss Chatelaine -♪ Ah -♪ Miss Chatelaine -♪ Ah -♪ Miss Chatelaine -♪ Ah -♪ Miss Chatelaine [ Cheering and applause ] Thank you.

[ Cheering and applause ] Well, you're revved up tonight.

[ Cheering and applause ] Yeah, San Antonio. The beautiful Majestic Theatre.

[ Cheering and applause ] -We are celebrating the 25th anniversary of 'Ingénue.'

[ Cheering and applause ] We will be playing the record, in its entirety, in sequence, and that has not yet been accomplished by a band in San Antonio.

[ Scattered cheers ] It also means that we're a bunch of gay seniors.

[ Laughter and applause ] No. 'Ingénue' is a bit of an insular record.

It's a meditative record on romance, and you may find yourselves being lulled into a sense of hypnosis.

[ Laughter ] Be okay with it.

[ Laughter ] We'll treat you safely... gently.

♪♪ So, sit back and relax.

I'm gonna retain -- I'm gonna refrain from needless banter.

'Cause I don't want to interrupt your experience.

So, sit back, relax, and we'll see you on the other side.

[ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ You swim ♪ Swim through my veins ♪ Drown me ♪ In your rain ♪ My desire ♪ Carries no shame ♪ My will will harbor no pain ♪ ♪♪ ♪ Wash ♪ Wash me clean ♪♪ ♪ Mend my wounded seams ♪♪ ♪ Cleanse my tarnished dreams ♪ ♪♪ ♪ Swim through my veins ♪ Drown me ♪ In your rain ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Wash ♪ Wash me clean ♪ Mend my wounded seams ♪♪ ♪ Cleanse my tarnished dreams ♪ ♪♪ ♪ Drink from my spell ♪ Quench love's drying well ♪♪ ♪ Wash ♪ Wash me clean ♪ Mend my wounded seams ♪♪ ♪ Cleanse my tarnished dreams [ Sustains note ] ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] [ Band playing ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Shadows ♪ Now curtain the moon ♪ Still faith swears ♪ It'll shine again soon ♪ Shine with love ♪ You've been hiding from me ♪ Your kiss ♪ Has hindered my day ♪ A longing ♪ That won't go away ♪ You just keep knocking ♪ Waking my heart ♪ Like daylight ♪ Chasing the dark ♪ I can exist being caught by your kiss ♪ ♪ Willingly ♪ Or grant you control ♪ Of my body and soul ♪ Ask it and so it shall be ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Shadows ♪ Now curtain the moon ♪ Still faith swears ♪ It will shine again soon ♪ Shine with love ♪ You've been hiding from me ♪ With that love ♪ You've been hiding from me ♪ I can exist being caught by your kiss ♪ ♪ Willingly ♪ Or grant you control ♪ Of my body and soul ♪ Ask it and so it shall be ♪ Ask it and so it shall be ♪ [ Vocalizing ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ I often wonder ♪ Is it so ♪ All I am holding ♪ Wants let go ♪ How could I manage ♪ I don't know ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ I often question ♪ Is it so ♪ That life's contradictions ♪ Tend to grow ♪ Spawning the choices ♪ And the woe ♪ But still somehow ♪ Thrives this love ♪ Which I pray ♪ I'm worthy of ♪ Still somehow ♪ Thrives this love [ Sustains note ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ And I worry ♪ Is it so ♪ The lessons of patience ♪ Are learned slow ♪ And earnings of labor ♪ May never show ♪ But, still somehow ♪ Thrives this love ♪ Which I pray ♪ I'm worthy of ♪ Still somehow ♪ Thrives this love ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ When I was writing 'Ingénue,' I was living in Vancouver, British Columbia.

[ Scattered cheers and applause ] And every day, I would walk in this beautiful park off of downtown called, Stanley Park.

It is, it is beautiful.

Searching for the muse, hoping... that I might get a little help writing these lyrics.

And every day, I would pass this huge fallen cedar tree that had been there for some time.

And straddling its carcass were these two verdant, beautiful, young cedar trees feeding off the nutrients of impermanence.

♪♪ ♪ Keen to the shifting wind ♪ I bend to it blind ♪ To rid these kisses of sin ♪ That must stay behind ♪ Sour the fruit of neglect ♪ The core of my doubt ♪ Deprived are my veins you infect ♪ ♪ With or without ♪ Fate must have a reason ♪ Why else endure the season ♪ ♪ Of hollow soul ♪ The ground on which we leave on ♪ ♪ How strangely fuels the season ♪ ♪ Of hollow soul ♪ Of hollow soul ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Seeds of uprooted chance ♪ Are grains of goodbye ♪ Waving boughs so slowly dance ♪ ♪ Questioning why ♪ Fate must have a reason ♪ Why else endure the season ♪ ♪ Of hollow soul ♪ The ground on which we leave on ♪ ♪ How strangely fuels the season ♪ ♪ Of hollow soul ♪ Hollow soul ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Fate must have a reason ♪ ♪ Why else endure the season ♪ ♪ Of hollow soul [ Humming ] ♪♪ ♪ The ground on which we leave on ♪ ♪ How strangely fuels the season ♪ ♪ Of hollow soul ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪ A thin ice ♪ Covers my soul ♪ My body's frozen ♪ And my heart is cold ♪ And still ♪ So much about me is raw ♪ I search for a place ♪ To unthaw ♪ Something in me ♪ Broods love into fear ♪ It veils my vision ♪ Leaves my thoughts unclear ♪ My eyes ♪ From blue turn to grey ♪ Hoping to mask what they say ♪ ♪ I've been outside myself ♪ For so long ♪ Any feeling I had ♪ Is close to gone ♪ Outside myself ♪ For so-o-o ♪ Long ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ And I have been ♪ In a storm of the sun ♪ Basking, senseless ♪ To what I've become ♪ A fool to worship ♪ Just light ♪ When after all, it follows night ♪ ♪ I've been outside myself ♪ For so long ♪ Any feeling I had ♪ Is close to gone ♪ I've been outside myself ♪ So long ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ I've been outside myself ♪ For so long ♪ Any feeling I had ♪ Is close to gone ♪ Oh I've been outside myself ♪ Ooh ♪ So long ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪ Love ♪ Thing of might and dread ♪ Stays the savior and poison ♪ ♪ To all ♪ Of heart ♪ And head ♪ Love ♪ Force of death ♪ And birth ♪ Still lies naked ♪ When next to the truth ♪ So spins ♪ The Earth ♪ Tears of ♪ love's recall ♪♪ ♪ Like blood ♪ To ♪ Chocolate ♪ Fall ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Love ♪ Common salt of thirst ♪ Runs like water ♪ That cuts through the lives ♪ ♪ Of the blessed ♪ And the cursed ♪ Tears of ♪ Love's recall ♪♪ ♪ Like blood ♪ To chocolate ♪ Fall ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Tears of ♪ Love's recall ♪♪ ♪ Like blood to ♪ Chocolate ♪ Fall ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] [ Band playing ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Even ♪ Through the darkest phase ♪ Be it ♪ Thick or thin ♪ Always ♪ Someone marches brave ♪ Here beneath my skin ♪ Constant craving ♪ Has always been ♪♪ ♪ Maybe ♪ A great magnet pulls ♪ All souls ♪ Towards truth ♪ Or maybe ♪ It is life itself ♪ That feeds wisdom ♪ To its youth ♪ Constant craving ♪ Has always been ♪ Craving ♪ Ah ha ♪ Constant craving -♪ Always -♪ Has always been -♪ Always -♪ Has always been ♪ Yeah ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Constant craving ♪ Has always been ♪ Constant craving ♪ Always been ♪ Craving ♪ Ah ha ♪ Constant craving -♪ Always -♪ Has always been -Always ♪ -♪ Has always been ♪ Has always been ♪ -♪ Always -♪ Has always been ♪ Has always ♪ Always been [ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] -We are here with the lovely and talented, in that order, k.d. lang.

-Thanks, James. -And you have just wrapped up quite a stretch of shows playing 'Ingénue,' -Mm-hmm. -in its entirety, front to back.

-Mm-hmm. -And what has that been like?

-You know, preparing for the tour was actually where all the came in because on my first listen in about 25 years to the record, I was like, ugh, this is never gonna work.

It's too quirky, it's too much of a dirge, the songs aren't good enough.

You know, just all the insecurities that come bubbling to the top -- because the listener also has a relationship with it for 25 years.

So I really, really just wanted to just deliver the song in sort of in a naked, pure sense; not superimpose any of my experiences or thoughts or concepts, but just deliver the song.

-Why do you think that it has resonated so strongly with your fans?

-There's something about the vulnerability of the record, about where I was and the space I was in, and writing really, like, off the cuff, like, really honest, vulnerable record.

And then paralleling that with me coming out.


-And then, just at that time in LGBTQ history, that people -- you know, AIDS crisis was full-blown and super scary, and I just feel like the record just paralleled other people's experiences as well as my own.

-Yeah. -And, you know, that's an amazing thing to be able to make a piece of art that has a connection to the social culture.

-I remember you told me that you actually think that part of the success of 'Ingénue' was that it came around the same time that you came out.


-And there was sort of this kind of sweep, socially, of what was happening and you had this album and you came out on the cover of and I actually feel like you couldn't have released that record without coming out. -No.

-I mean, if you listen to the lyrics, it's so much about shame and desire, and unrequited love.

-Well I never thought I was in. -Yeah!

[ Laughing] Yeah, I was gonna get to that.

-So, yeah, no, I don't -- it wasn't really like coming out was a big shock.

I had already come out to my family, you know I was singing songs about Polly Ann and Bopalena, and all sorts of girl-oriented songs.

But I guess officially coming out in really marked a cultural shift.


Do you ever feel like coming out overshadowed the album?

Do you feel like that experience -- -Yeah, I did, certainly at the time, yeah.

-Yeah, was that -- Were you resentful?

How did you reconcile that?

-I certainly went through periods of feeling resentment.

I think the resentment came a little bit later after 'Constant Craving' was a hit and we were trying to put out a second single, which was 'Mind of Love' -- and, where the refrain is, 'Where's your head, Kathryn?

Where's your head?'

And of course my first name is actually Kathryn.

♪ Where is your head, Kathryn?

♪ Where is your head?

So I'm singing about my own thought process.

-Very meta. -Yeah.

And I heard from the record company that a lot of radio stations wouldn't play it cause I'm singing about a girl.

-Wow. -So the album stopped, and it didn't really go past 'Constant Craving.'

And then, for -- well, still, I mean, look what we're talking about.

Always, my sexual orientation is always equal if not overshadowing my music.

So, certainly, I went through periods of feeling frustrated by that, but I think now, being older, and having some good perspective on my trajectory, I think that is as important as my music and that's who I am as a musician.

I'm representing a certain ilk of people and mindset that is under-represented, which is pretty... it's a big responsibility, but it's a deep source of pride.

-When you and Ben Mink and Greg Penny were making this record, did you have any sense that it was going to have this legacy and this longevity?

-No, I thought it was gonna get killed.


-I thought it was gonna be such a bomb, and it was, at the beginning.

It bombed at the beginning.

No, because it was really, at the time -- I mean, it doesn't seem so slow or dirge-y to me now, but at the time, as a young person, at the height of my career, at the time when Nirvana came out and Bjork was hot and Madonna was hot; all the music was super extroverted in a way.

To put out an introverted sounding record was, like, really going in the opposite direction, and I thought we were gonna get killed.

And the first few reviews were just horrendous.

-Let's talking about 'Constant Craving.'

I know you've had, I think 'complicated' is maybe a good way to describe your relationship with that song.

You didn't initially love it.

-No, because it was the stand-out song from our batch of songs.

It was a pop song. -Right.

-And it felt, like, kind of a contrived, you know, 'Let's write a single.

We need a single.'

And I was kind of... I guess, disappointed in myself that I would feel the need to do that.

But I am so glad, because not only was it a hit, but that's the obvious part.

Again, because of the jubilant sort of acceptance of human need and desire.

It ended up that it was a great thing.

-I'm curious what your fans, 26 years later, what do they tell you about this record?

-Mostly it was, 'Oh, my girlfriend and I fell in love to your record,' or -- -[ Laughing ] Did anyone have a child to this record?

Did anyone make a baby to this record?

-I'm sure. I'm positive, I'm positive.

I'm sure it must have been.

-While I was doing official business as the leader of this organization, I was rifling through some documentation, and came across a... a photostat copy, ladies and gentlemen, or it may have been a fax, of this one's passport.

And I happened to notice that she is nine months and two weeks younger than 'Ingénue.'

[ Laughter ] Well, of course, it jarred my thinking process and I started to ponder, ladies and gentlemen, that perhaps, indirectly... [ Laughter and applause ] [ Cheering ] -Let's talk about the songwriting on this record.

The record was so funny because there's never, there are no pronouns on 'Ingénue,' right?

-There aren't? I don't know.

-No, there aren't. -I don't even know what a pronoun is actually. -'He,' 'she'... -Oh, okay. -'It, 'they'... -No well that obviously... I always de-pronoun songs.

-You were ahead of the curve. -Yeah.

-You were gender non-conforming before.

-I was non-binary before binary.

-Before it was the talk of the town.


-But you know it is so interesting because, especially to a gay and lesbian listener, it wasn't coded speech, but you knew exactly what you were talking about and what you were singing about.

-Well, I knew how alienating it was when you were really into a song and they would say, 'And he's the best thing that's ever happened to me.'

And it's like, well... -Right.

-You know, that's great, but. -Right.

-You know, because I've always, always tried to transcend gender -- even, uh... subject-specific issues.

I've always tried to write from a spiritual perspective, or a lover perspective, or the relationship you have to the things that are inspiring you, or hurting you.

It's not anything specific, it's not subject-specific.

-Were there any songs that sort of surprised you?

I know that you hadn't actually performed some of them live, I think, but did any kind of surprise you or take on a new life on this tour?

-Yes, from -- 'Season of Hollow Soul,' 'Outside Myself,' and 'Tears of Love's Recall' where we let the band open up, and take it into their emotional world.

That became my favorite part of the show.

And then, 'Constant Craving,' which I never experienced, I mean we consciously put 'Constant Craving' at the end, which was completely contrary to popular marketing strategy.

-You put your hit first, right? -You put your hit first, and we put it at the very last song on the record.

And I knew why we did it, but I never thought twice about it until I started performing it and then there's this summation and this kind of acquiesce of, 'Constant craving's always been.'

We all -- that's the human condition -- we all... And 'Constant Craving' became an entirely different song to me and made perfect sense after all this sort of arduous processing of what romance is and what longing is and then you get to the fact where, well, it's always been.

[ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ I heard there was a secret chord ♪ ♪ David played, and it pleased the Lord, but... ♪ ♪ You don't really care for music, do ya? ♪ ♪ Well, it goes like this ♪ Fourth, the fifth ♪ The minor fall, the major lift ♪ ♪ The baffled king composing Hallelujah ♪ ♪ Hallelujah [ Scattered cheering ] ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪♪ ♪ Well, your faith was strong but you needed proof ♪ ♪ You saw her bathing on the roof ♪ ♪ Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew ya ♪ ♪ She tied you to her kitchen chair ♪ ♪ She broke your throne and cut your hair ♪ ♪ And from your lips she drew ♪ ♪ Hallelujah [ Cheering and applause ] ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪♪ [ Cheering and applause ] ♪ Baby, I've been here before ♪ I've seen this room, I've walked the floor ♪ ♪ I used to live alone before I knew ya ♪ ♪ Then I saw your flag on the marble arch ♪ ♪ Our love is not a victory march ♪ ♪ It's cold and broken Hallelujah ♪ ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Maybe there's a God above ♪ But all I've ever learned from love ♪ ♪ Was how to shoot somebody ♪ Who outdrew ya ♪ Well, it's not a cry that you hear at night ♪ ♪ It's not someone who's seen the light ♪ ♪ It's cold and broken Hallelujah ♪ ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Hallelujah [ Sustains note ] [ Cheering and applause ] ♪ Hallelu-- [ Sustains note ] ♪♪ ♪ Jah [ Cheering and applause ] -I wanted to ask you about 'Hallelujah.'

You go somewhere else when you sing that song, like I don't quite feel like you're in your body.

But what is it like to sing that?

-Um... Well, again, the lyrics are so dense with opportunities and, um... [ 'Hallelujah' playing over ] ...human idiosyncrasies.

And knowing -- you know, I met Leonard a couple times... and knowing that he shared the Dharma, which is the Buddhist faith, and that he had that natural propensity to think that way... I never, ever get tired of the lyrics because they're -- like I said, they're so dense with these different variations of examining human nature.

Um... Lots of times I try to look at it like, again, almost like 'Constant Craving,' where it's -- it's this acceptance, or this surrender to the fact that we are in this existence, in this realm of being human beings.

We're faced with these challenges, with desire and pride and ego and passion.

These are all considered poisons, so to me that song is so ripe with teachings, and so I just -- I mean, I'm teaching myself when I'm singing it.

I am literally processing that song as an opportunity to examine myself.


So, when we asked you to do this show, we said you could choose any venue, any place around the world, and you chose the Majestic Theatre in San Antonio -- tell me about that.

-I don't know why I've always had a soft spot for that theater -- I mean, I know some reasons why I've had a soft spot, but I always, always loved the Majestic Theatre in San Antonio.

First, San Antonio is a great, interesting city.

I like it a lot.

But the Majestic Theatre is so whimsical, and it sounds great, and it's greasy, meaning it's old, it's had a lot of people play in it.

The ceiling, I love the ceiling, which, you know, it's got the starscape in it, and there's just something about it.

There's just that kind of history, and that kind of love that went into building it and then the years of trying to maintain it.

I mean, it needs a little bit of love right now, but I don't know -- I've always had a kinship with it.

-It's funny because when you look at photos of it, if you've never been there, when you look at photos it almost looks like a little fairytale.

-It does, yeah.

-You know, like a Hollywood sound stage.

-Yeah, it does look like a sound stage.

-Does it have a cool old backstage?

Are there photos of like vaudeville acts?

-Yeah there's all sorts of Broadway, vaudeville, different performers.

Tony's name was on the wall.

All these different... people sign the wall and stuff.

-Did you play San Antonio from the start of your career?

Have you always sort of played Texas?

-Yeah, well, of course, doing the country stuff, Texas was a market for me at the time.

And I believe I played the original 'Ingénue' tour at The Majestic. -Oh, interesting.

Are there other venues around the world that you have a special connection to?

-Oh, I love The Olympia in Paris.

That's a beauty.

I like some of the smaller venues in smaller cities, like Albany, New York.

Detroit, the Fox Theater.

The Paramount in Austin is one of them.

I like kind of the orphans -- there's something about them.

for some reason my career... I hit a plateau and I've stayed there.

I mean I've played the same venues, the same size audience for 30 years.

-Let's put a positive spin on that.

That's quality control.

-Well, no, I actually agree with you.

I think that's a good sign. -Right.

So, I want to congratulate you.

You just won an award from the Americana Music Association.

And I think of all the awards that they give, it's probably the most appropriate for you, the Americana Trailblazer Award.

Did that award in particular mean something to you coming from that industry?

-Yeah, sure.

You know, my time in Nashville was a mixed bag of emotion.

But it means a great deal to me, and the fact that I may have influence on people like Brandi or, you know, whoever -- I can't think of anything else I may have influenced.

But it's a tremendous thing.

I mean that's certainly, when I look back at people who have influenced me, people like Peggy Lee and Joni Mitchell and Patsy Cline; if I had the opportunity to see them and to tell them exactly you know how immeasurable their impact was on me it would be wonderful.

So, if I had to have any sort of impact on a younger musician that would be a tremendous gift and reward.

-Yeah. I remember the first time you and I ever talked.

We talked a lot about labels and sort of the blessing and curse of your versatility.

You know, I actually don't think that you would have been able to survive in a single genre.

-No, and I still can't.

I'm -- you know, to this day, I'm struggling with where I'm going and what music really, I feel nurtured by or a kinship to.

'Cause I still can't totally define that.

-I remember the one label that did seem to fit when we talked a while ago.

You said: a singer. -Yeah.

-And that's -- I feel like that's how we should think of you.

-That would be great.

I would like that.

-Ladies and gentlemen, k.d. lang, a singer.

-Singer. I'm a singer.

-You're a singer. -Yeah.

[ Cheering and applause ] -Thank you so very much.

Sing it loud my friends, sing it loud.

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♪♪ Now, we realize that you have many options for entertainment tonight.

♪♪ -I would like to thank you for coming out tonight, ladies and gentlemen.

And if you did come out tonight, congratulations!

[ Cheering and applause ] Even if it was only a tiny, little bit, deep down inside.

♪♪ -Thank you. We love you.

[ Cheering and applause ] ♪♪ ♪ Oh, my love ♪ Dusk is calling my heart ♪ Come to bed ♪ Lay with me instead of sleeping alone ♪ ♪ A chance like this ♪ Is better taken when two lips ♪ ♪ Brave a kiss ♪ I insist it's better than ♪ Sleeping alone ♪ Coffee and morning ♪ Taste much better when you add ♪ ♪ A little cream ♪ Ooh ♪ How about a shower ♪ We could both blow off ♪ A little steam ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Coffee and the morning ♪ Taste much better when you add ♪ ♪ A little cream ♪ Ooh ♪ How about a shower ♪ We could both blow off ♪ Ah ♪ A little steam ♪ Stay with me ♪ That would be preferable to me ♪ ♪ Don't you agree?

♪ Come to bed ♪ Lay with me instead of ♪ Sleeping -♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh ♪ Alone ♪ Ooh ♪♪ I love you, San Antonio, and I always will!

[ Cheering and applause ] That's no lie! Thank you so much!

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