>> A NEW REPORT IS STATING THAT

THE HUMANS ARE THE REASON FOR

THE RISE IN GLOBAL TEMPERATURES.

IT WAS TO BE RELEASED FROM THE

WHITE HOUSE DESPITE THE OPINIONS

OF TOP OFFICIALS.

THE U.N. WILL CONVENE FOR THE

CLIMATE CHANGE CONFERENCE WITH

THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE

PAIR -- IMPLEMENTATION OF THE

PARIS ACCORD.

>> HIS FIRST AND NEWLY RELEASED

NOVEL RADIO FREE VERMONT FOLLOWS

A BAND OF PATRIOTS THAT FEELS

THEIR STATE MAY BE BETTER OFF

WITH THEIR OWN REPUBLIC.

>> LET'S START WITH THE REPORT,

DETAILED, STATES NO CONVINCING

EXPLANATION FOR ANYTHING OTHER

THAN HUMANS TO BE THE CAUSE OF

CLIMATE CHANGE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> THERE'S NO WAY TO WRITE A

SCIENTIFIC REPORT TO SAY

ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

I WROTE THE FIRST BOOK ON

CLIMATE CHANGE IN 1989, AND WE

KNEW THEN WHAT WAS GOING ON.

RIGHT NOW, BY THIS POINT, IT'S

SO OVERWHELMING YOU COULD NOT

ROUND UP A GROUP OF SCIENTISTS

TO PRODUCE A REPORT THAT SAID

ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

THE WHITE HOUSING, IS OPPOSED TO

ACTING ON CLIMATE CHANGE NOT

BECAUSE IT HAS A SUPERIOR

SCIENTIFIC INSIGHT, BUT BECAUSE

IT'S A CAPTIVE OF THE FOSSIL

FUEL INDUSTRY.

>> WHYS THAT FOSSIL FUEL

INDUSTRY BEEN SO INVOLVED.

UNDER THE EPA, WE SAW THE REPEAL

OF THE CLEAN POWERPLANT, I KNOW

BIG POCKETS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED,

BUT WHY HAVE THEY BEEN AFFECTED?

>> WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE EPA

HAS LESS TO DO WITH TRUMP AND

THE KOCH BROTHER.

SO, THEY ARE MOVING QUICKLY TO

TRY, NOT TO -- THEY KNOW THEY

CANNOT HOLD OFF RENEWABLE ENERGY

FOREVER.

BUT THEY WOULD SETTLE FOR

ANOTHER 20 OR 30 YEARS OF

BUSINESS MODELS, EVEN IF IT

MEANS BREAKING THE PLANET AND IT

WOULD.

>> ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU WROTE

IN A RECENT PIECE THAT THE

HURRICANES THAT WERE SEEN IN THE

PAST FEW MONTHS, JIVES WITH WHAT

THE SCIENTISTS HAVE SAID WITH HE

SHOULD EXPECT FROM GLOBAL

WARNING.

WHY SUCH A LACK OF ACHIEVEMENT

TO GET THE MESSAGE ACROSSES?

>> THE MESSAGE IS ACROSS.

70% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE THAT

HUMAN BEINGS ARE WARMING THE

PLANET.

GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT PUBLIC

OPINION.

THAT IS PRETTY GOOD.

HALF OF THE U.S. THINKS THAT

ELVIS IS ALIVE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE A GOOD

JOB.

BUT, THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY IS

THE RICHEST SINGLE ENTERPRISE

THAT HUMAN BEINGS HAVE BUILT AND

IT'S GOING TO USE THE MONEY TO

TRY AND STIFLE ANY REAL

PROGRESS.

>> YOU HAVE SEEN A -- WHEN WE

LOOK AT THE MEDIA AND CONSIDER A

STORY LIKE THE PAIRS CLIMATE

AGREEMENT, WHY DO YOU THINK

MAINSTREAM ORGANIZATIONS -- ARE

THEY SCARED OF COVERING THE

ISSUES?

IS IT A LACK OF RESOURCES?

>> IN PART, THEY ARE INTIMIDATED

BY THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY.

AND IT'S HARD AS A JOURNALIST.

EVERY DAY, THERE'S SOMETHING

ELSE MORE IMMEDIATE GOING ON.

THERE'S A SCANDAL, A HORRIBLE

MASSACRE, SOMETHING.

EVERY DAY, THE MOST IMPORTANT

THING THAT IS GOING ON, IS RAPID

DANGEROUS HEATING OF THE PLANET,

BUT IT GOES ON IN THE BACKGROUND

AND JOURNALISM HAS A HARDER TIME

YOU COPING AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE

BACKGROUND AND THE FOREGROUND.

>> IS IT A DIFFICULTY IN TRYING

TO MAKE THE STORIES RELEVANT TO

THE MAIN STREAM AUDIENCE?

>> THAT WAS THE PROBLEM 30 YEARS

AGO, IT'S LESS OF A PROBLEM NOW,

THAT MOTHER NATURE IS DOING HER

BEST TO HIT US UP SIDE THE HEAD

WITH A 2 BY 4.

WE JUST HAD THE BIGGEST RAIN

STORM IN AMERICAN HISTORY WITH

HURRICANE HARVEY AND THE BIGGEST

WIN STORM WITH HURRICANE IRMA

AND HURRICANE MARIA THAT TOOK

PUERTO RICO BACK 30 YEARS.

PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO PAY

ATTENTION.

>> I WANT TO SWITCH NOW TO YOUR

NOVEL.

CONSIDERING ALL THE EVENTS

HAPPENING AND WHAT IS HAPPENING

AT THE WHITE HOUSE.

ONE WOULD THINK THAT AS A

LEADING WRITER ON THIS, YOU MAY

WANT TO GO FOCUS ON NONFICTION,

PRESENT THE FACTS WHEN IT COMES

TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND WHAT WE

CAN DO TO PREVENT IT --

>> DON'T WORRY IERJS IN THE --

DON'T WORRY, I'M IN THE MIDDLE

OF A LONG DEPRESSING BOOK THAT

WILL BE OUT SOON.

BUT THIS YEAR, WE NEEDED A BIT

OF A BREAK.

THIS IS A FUNNY BOOK.

IT'S ALSO ABOUT SMALL PLACES,

VERMONT, WHERE I LIVE.

AND IT ATTEMPTS TO REMIND US

THAT THERE REALLY IS SOMETHING

POWERFUL AND BEAUTIFUL ABOUT

RESISTANCE AND IT'S AN ATTEMPT,

IF NOTHING ELSE TO CHEER MYSELF

UP A BIT.

IN WHAT SEEMS LIKE THE DARKEST

POLITICAL YEAR A THAT I CAN

REMEMBER.

>> YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE MONTHS

AND TAKING ACTION AT THE

GRASSROOTS LEVEL.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH

THE LEADERS AT THE FEDERAL

LEVEL.

ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC THAT THE

CHANGES ARE HAPPENING IN THE

LOCAL LEVEL?

>> YES, WHEN TRUMP PULLED OUT,

HE SAID, I WAS TO GOVERN

PITTSBURGH NOT PARIS.

AND THE MAYOR OF PITTSBURGH

SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?

WE ARE GOING 100% RENEWABLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IF WE ARE GOING TO CATCH UP, WE

NEED EVERYONE MOVING FAST IN THE

RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO THE TRUMP YEARS CAN'T BE

SPUN, I'M AFRAID, THEY ARE A

REAL ROADBLOCK IN THE WAY OF

ACTION.

BUT WAS ALL ROADBLOCKS, PEOPLE

ARE FIGURING OUT WHAT ALTERNATE

ROUTES THEY CAN.

>> AND YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS

HELPED PROTESTS ACROSS THE

WORLD, YOU HAVE TRAVELED TO MANY

OF THE COUNTRIES.

WHAT STRUCK YOU MOST ABOUT THE

COUNTRIES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN

PROTESTING AT?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS

MOST MOVING ABOUT THE BIG

WORLDWIDE CLIMATE MOVEMENT.

SO MANY TIMES IT COMES IN PLACES

WHERE PEOPLE DID NOT GO ANYTHING

TO CAUSE THE PROBLEM.

>> LIKE?

>> THE TROPICAL COUNTRIES AND

THE POOR COUNTRIES AROUND THE

WORLD THAT HAVE PUT NOTHING IN

THE ATMOSPHERE, BUT ARE GETTING

HIT HARDER THAN WE ARE.

>> FIRST BOOK IS CALLED "RADIO

FREE VERMONT," THANK YOU FOR

JOINING US.