Sustainable Farming
In conversation with Michael Doane of The Nature Conservancy and Chef Dan Barber, our partners at MetroFocus look at sustainable farming and its role in resiliency against climate change.
Sustainable Farming
In conversation with Michael Doane of The Nature Conservancy and Chef Dan Barber, our partners at MetroFocus look at sustainable farming and its role in resiliency against climate change.
>>> THE FOOD BANK FOR THE CITY
OF NEW YORK IS CALLING FOR
DONATIONS DURING THE HOLIDAY
SEASON AS THEY COPE WITH THE
INCREASING DEMAND FOR EMERGENCY
FOOD SUPPLIES.
ONE IN EVERY FIVE CHILDREN ARE
FOOD INSECURE, THAT MEANS A LACK
OF ACCESS TO ENOUGH FOOD TO LIVE
A HEALTHY LIFE.
IT'S QUITE STAGGERING WHEN YOU
CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF FOOD THAT
GOES TO WASTE, A QUARTER OF ALL
GROCERIES PURCHASED BY AMERICAN
HERE AT "METROFOCUS" WE'RE
COMMITTED TO COVERING THE HUMAN
IMPACT OF OUR CHANGING CLIMATES
THROUGH OUR PERIL AND PROMISE
INITIATIVE AND THIS MATTER OF
FOOD DEMAND AND SUPPLY IS
ABSOLUTELY INTEGRAL.
ALMOST ALL OF THAT WASTE I JUST
MENTIONED ENDS UP AT LANDFILL
SITES, EMITTING LARGE AMOUNTS OF
METHANE.
DAN BARBER IS THE EXECUTIVE CHEF
AT THE BLUE HILL RESTAURANT IN
NEW YORK, HE SERVED ON PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S COUNCIL ON PHYSICAL
FITNESS, SPORTS AND NUTRITION.
MICHAEL DOANE IS THE NATURE
CONSERVANCY'S DIRECTOR OF
AGRICULTURE AND FOOD SYSTEMS.
I'M DELIGHTED TO WELCOME DAN AND
MICHAEL TO THE PROGRAM.
MICHAEL, LET ME BEGIN WITH YOU.
WHEN WE CONSIDER THIS ISSUE OF
FOOD SUSTAINABILITY, IS CRISIS
AN APT TERM TO DESCRIBE WHAT
WE'RE FACING?
>> IT'S A REAL ISSUE.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE LARGEST
HISTORIC INCREASE IN FOOD DEMAND
WE HAVE EVER KNOWN SINCE THE
DAWN OF AGRICULTURE WE ARE
LIVING THROUGH IT RIGHT NOW.
WE WILL NEED TO PRODUCE MORE
FOOD BETWEEN NOW AND 2050 THAN
WE HAVE PRODUCED IN THAT PERIOD
OF TIME.
A THIRD OF IT OR A QUARTER OF IT
ISN'T GETTING TO THE TABLE OR IS
BEING WASTED, THAT'S
UNACCEPTABLE.
SO IT'S A REAL CONCERN AND WE
NEED SOLUTIONS.
>> DAN, LONG -- FOR A LONG TIME
CHEFS WERE BUNKERED DOWN IN THE
KITCHEN, WE'VE SEEN A GROWING
MOVEMENT OF CHEFS COMING OUT OF
THE KITCHENS AND SPEAKING OUT,
BECOMING ACTIVISTS.
YOU ARE ONE OF THE LEADING ONE
OF THOSE CHEFS.
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF
FOOD SUSTAINABILITY THAT REALLY
CONCERNED YOU THE MOST?
WHAT DO YOU WANT CONSUMERS TO
KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO THE
GROCERY STORE?
>> I HAD A SELF-INTEREST BECAUSE
CHEFS ARE USUALLY -- HIGH END
CHEFS, WHITE TABLECLOTH CHEFS
ARE OFTEN POINTED TO AS THE
BLAME FOR PRESSNESS AND WASTE
AND I FELT THAT WHAT NEEDED TO
BE COMMUNICATED WAS ACTUALLY
CHEFS AND RESTAURANTS OR CHEFS
IN PARTICULAR IN OUR DNA IS TO
NOT WASTE FOOD.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TAUGHT FROM
THE FIRST MOMENT OF COOKING IS
HOW DO WE UTILIZE SOMETHING THAT
IS UNCOVETED OR POTENTIALLY
UNDELICIOUS AT FIRST GLANCE AND
TRANSFORM IT INTO SOMETHING THAT
SINGS.
TONIGHT ON MY MENU IS A BRAISED
LAMB RAF YOELY.
THAT IS LEFTOVER SHANKS OF LAMB
AND WE ARE GOING TO CALL IT A
BRAISED LAMB RAVIOLI BUT I COULD
CALL IT WASTED LAMB RAVIOLI, IT
WOULDN'T SELL, BUT THAT'S WHAT
IT IS.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
WE NEGOTIATE THAT CONSTANTLY
THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND IN OUR
MENU.
WE JUST DON'T WEAR IT ON OUR
SLEEVE.
SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
>> DAN MENTIONED A LOT OF THE
BLAME OFTEN LIES UPON THE
SHOULDERS OF RESTAURANT AND
GROCERY STORES.
YOUR RESTAURANT FOUND A WAY TO
MAKE USE OF EVERY SINGLE THING
THAT COMES FROM THE FARM.
WHEN WE CONSIDER THE ISSUE OF
WASTE WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY
IT'S NAIVE JUST TO PUT THE BLAME
ON GROCERY STORES AND
RESTAURANTS.
A LOT OF THE WASTE HAPPENING AT
A FARM LEVEL, A LOT OF THE FOOD
THAT'S PRODUCED ON THE FARM
DOESN'T END UP GETTING TO THE
STORES AND RESTAURANTS IN THE
FIRST PLACE.
>> THERE IS LOSS WITHIN THE
SYSTEM AS WE CALL IT.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE
DISTANCE FROM THE FARM TO THE
TABLE, OUR FOOD SYSTEM IS
GETTING LONGER AND LONGER ALL
THE TIME AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF
TRENDS THAT ARE JUST
FUNDAMENTALLY BAKED INTO
GLOBALIZATION.
FOOD IS THE GREATEST FORCING
PRESSURE ON THE PLANET TODAY,
THE PRODUCTION AND DEMAND FOR
FOOD.
ANYTHING THAT ISN'T PRODUCED
WITH A GOOD USE IN THE END IS A
REAL PRESSURE ON THAT
FUNDAMENTAL MISSION.
>> THE OTHER PART OF THE
EQUATION HERE THAT WE OUGHT TO
MENTION AND THAT I WANTED TO
SHINE A LIGHT ON IS JUST OUR
EVERY DAY DIETS.
THAT'S NOT IN THE CALCULATIONS
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT
NOW.
EVERY DAY DIETS, WESTERN
CONCEPTION OF A PLATE OF FOOD IS
SIX OR SEVEN OUNCE PIECE OF
MEAT, A SMATTERING OF VEGETABLES
AND TRAINS.
THAT'S AN AMERICAN EXPECTATION
FOR LUNCH AND DINNER SEVEN DAYS
A WEEK.
WE'RE EXPORTING THAT IDEA TO THE
REST OF THE WORLD.
THAT'S A CARRYING CAPACITY THAT
THE LAND CAN NO LONGER AFFORD.
BUT IT'S ALSO PART AND PARCEL
WITH WASTE.
I MEAN, WHEN WE ARE COMMITTING
120 MILLION ACRES OF CORN AND
SOYBEANS, DESTRUCTIVE AS IT IS
ON THE LANDSCAPE AND FEEDING IT
THROUGH AN ANIMAL AND EATING
THAT ANIMAL, THAT IS THE MOST
INEFFICIENT USE OF RESOURCES YOU
CAN IMAGINE PROBABLY IN THE
HISTORY OF THE WORLD.
ULTIMATELY THE MOST POWERFUL WAY
TO CHANGE OUR HABITS AND CHANGE
THE CULTURE THAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT IS TO SHINE A LIGHT ON THE
EVERY DAY ARCHITECTURE OF OUR
PLATE OF FOOD.
>> WHEN YOU SAY CHANGING THE
CULTURE, A SKEPTIC MIGHT SAY IT
IS ALL GOOD AND WELL IF YOU HAVE
THE MONEY TO BUY HEALTHY AND
FRESH INGREDIENTS, BUT A LOT OF
PEOPLE ARE FOOD INSECURE.
SO SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO EAT IN A
MORE SUSTAINABLE MANNER THAT IS
LIVING OFF A FEW DOLLARS A DAY
CAN IT BE DONE?
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT TAKING
MEATS WHICH ARE THE MOST
EXPENSIVE PART OF YOUR PLATE OF
FOOD AND PUSHING THOSE OFF TO
THE SIDE.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT VEGANISM
OR VEGETARIANISM.
I THINK THERE IS A PLACE FOR
PROTEIN AT THE TABLE, BUT CAN WE
HAVE GRAINS BE A MAINSTAY?
CAN WE HAVE VEGETABLES BE A
MAINSTAY FOR OUR DINNER AND USE
MEATS AS A CONDIMENT AND AS A
FLAVORING?
THAT'S ACTUALLY MUCH MORE
INEXPENSIVE THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT
GOING ON NOW AND AS A CHEF I
WOULD ARGUE IT'S MUCH MORE
DELICIOUS.
>> ONE PIECE OF ADVICE FOR THE
VIEWERS WATCHING THIS IF THEY
WANT TO EAT AND PURCHASE AND
CONSUME FOOD IN A MORE
SUSTAINABLE MANNER, WHAT WOULD
BE YOUR ONE PIECE OF ADVICE?
>> I'D SAY COOK.
JUST COOK.
IF YOU ARE COOKING DINNER YOU
HAVE BY DEFINITION HAVING LESS
IMPACT ON THE LANDSCAPE BECAUSE
WHEN SOMEONE ELSE IS COOKING FOR
YOU THEY ARE NOT DOING IT WITH
THE THOUGHT THAT YOU ARE.
>> WHAT ABOUT YOU, MICHAEL.
>> BE ADVENTURESOME, TRY
SOMETHING NEW.
FARMERS NEED THAT SIGNAL.
FARMERS WON'T CHANGE UNLESS
CONSUMERS CHANGE.
IF CONSUMERS CHANGE WE WILL GET
A HEALTHIER LANDSCAPE.
>> FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
DAN BARBER IS THE EXECUTIVE CHEF
AT THE BLUE HILL RESTAURANT IN
NEW YORK, MICHAEL DOANE IS THE
NATURE CONSERVANCY'S DIRECTOR OF
AGRICULTURE.
THANK YOU.
>>> FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS
PROVIDED BY --
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