Cuomo’s Bag Ban Stalled
Governor Cuomo’s ban on plastic bags hit a snag in Albany. Our partners at MetroFocus find out why.
Cuomo’s Bag Ban Stalled
Governor Cuomo’s ban on plastic bags hit a snag in Albany. Our partners at MetroFocus find out why.
>>> SHEER A STATISTIC THAT MIGHT
STARTLE YOU.
NEW YORKERS USE 23 BILLION, WITH
A B, PLASTIC BAGS EVERY YEAR.
MAJORITY OF WHICH ARE SENT TO
LANDFILLS, SOME LEFT ON THE
STREET SOME END UP GETTING STUCK
IN THE TREES.
THE GOVERNOR PROPOSED TO BAN
SINGLE PLASTIC USE BAGS BY NEXT
YEAR.
HOW WILL THAT AFFECT RESIDENTS?
THE GOVERNOR LACKS TO PLACE A 10
CENT FEE ON ALL CARRYOUT BAGS.
THE GROCERY STORE KEEPS SOME TO
COVE COSTS AND AS PART PUBLIC
MEDIA INITIATIVE PERRING AND
PROMISE, THE PROMISE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE WE LOOK AT THE PROS AND
CONS OF THIS PROPOSAL AND 20 DO
THAT WE'RE JOINED WITH POLITICS
REPORTER FOR THE OBSERVER
MEDINAH TORRE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> TALK ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL AND
SOME IN THE PAST TO COMPARE
THEM.
ONE FAIRLY RECENTLY PASSED THAT
DIDN'T GET PAST THE GOVERNOR.
WHAT WAS THAT JUN WHAT WERE THE
TERMS OF THAT ONE AND WHY DID
THE GOVERNOR HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
THAT?
>> A VERY LONG HISTORY TO THIS
ISSUE.
IN 2016 THE NEW YORK CITY
COUNCIL PASS ED A BILL REQUIRESA
FIVE CENT FEE FOR PLASTIC OR
PAPER BAGS.
THE FEE, MONEY FROM THE FEE
WOULD GO TO STORE OWNERS.
CONTENTIOUS ISSUE AT THE TILME.
THE BILL NARROWLY PASSED 2307
F.
20 FOR IF.
20 AGAINST.
HOW IT COULD IMPACT LOWER PAID
NEW YORKERS, SENIORS AND FIXED
INCOMES AND THE GOVERNOR LAST
YEAR ENDED UP VETOING THAT BILL.
>> AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE NEW
ONE.
HOW THEY'RE DIFFERENT WHEN ONES
IN THE PAST?
>> SO NOW IN MARCH AS I
MENTIONED, TWO MANHATTAN STATE
SENATORS INTRODUCED A BILL THAT
WOULD BAN PLASTIC CAREOUT
BASTION AND ISSUED A 10 CENT FEE
FOR OTHER PLASTIC BAGS.
>> TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING?
RIGHT?
ANY PAPER BAG, EVERYTHING?
>> RIGHT.
THEN 20% OF THE FEE WOULD BE, GO
TO STORES AND THEN THE REST OF
THE 80% OF THE MONEY FROM THAT
FEE WOULD GO TOWARDS A STATE
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FUND
WHICH WOULD FUND LOCALE TIS,
CLEAN UP, REASONABLE BAG
DISTRIBUTION WITH ISSUES FOR LOW
INCOME, NEW YORKERS ON FIXED
INCOME AND S.N.A.P. RECIPIENTS
EXEMPT.
VARIOUS EXEMPTIONS.
>> LET ME ASK ABOUT THAT.
YOU AND I TALKEDALITIES BEFORE
A LITTLE BEFORE WE STARTED.
I DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY BUT
FOLLOWED THIS.
LOOKING AT THE LIST OF
EXEMPTIONS.
SEEMED TO BE AN AWFUL LOT OF
XPEM
EXEMPTIONS.
WHAT BAG WOS NOT BE BANNED?
>> BRINGING US UP TO SPEED, THE
GOVERNOR INTRODUCED HIS OWN
VERSION OF THE BILL AT THE END
OF APRIL WHICH IS THE MOST
RECENT VERSION AND UNDER THAT IT
WOULD BE BAN ON ALL PLASTIC BAGS
AT POINT OF FAIL.
THE EXEMPTIONS UNDER THAT ARE
IN-STORE PLASTIC BAGS FOR
PRODUCE.
VEGETABLES, FRUITS, BAGS FOR
NEWSPAPER DELIVERY.
GARMENT BAGS, TRASH BAGS,
RESTAURANTS HAVE THEM.
A RANGE OF EXEMPTIONS HERE.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE, AGAIN, LOOKING
FROM THE OUTSIDE, THAT FOR THE
MOST PART, AND TELL ME IF THIS
MAKES SENSE TO YOU, BECAUSE
YOU'VE COVERED THIS.
SEEMS FOR THE MOST PART PEOPLE
WATCHING US HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION WOULD SAY, WELL,
KIND OF ALL THE ONES I WOULD USE
ON DAILY BASIS WILL BE EXEMPT.
IS THAT A FAIR CALCULUS OF THIS?
>> YEAH, YEAH.
ACTUALLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S
BEEN A POINT OF CONCERN FOR A
LOT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS
PUSHING FOR A PLASTIC BAG BAN
FOR A LONG TIME.
THEY FEEL, JUST OUTRIGHT BANNING
PLASTIC BAGS AND HAVING
EXEMPTIONS ISN'T GOING TO REDUCE
PLASTIC BAG USE, AND THERE'S A
QUESTION OF, WELL, PEOPLE ARE
STILL GOING TO USE PAPER BAGS.
STILL GOING TO USE OTHER TYPES
OF BAGS.
THEY POINT TO PLACES LIKE
CALIFORNIA, AND CHICAGO, THAT
CHARGE FEES FOR PLASTIC OR PAPER
BAGS.
THEY ADVOCATE FOR MORE
SOPHISTICATED FORMS OF A BAN.
>> TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROS
AND CONS.
FOR THIS.
START WITH THE PROS.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT
PEOPLE ARE POINTING TO IN
SUPPORT OF THIS?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE THING
PEOPLE POINT TO IS, WE CAN START
WITH NEW YORK CITY ALONE.
NEW YORK CITY COULD STAND TO
SAVES $S 12.5 MILLION IN
DISPOSE'S COSTING.
LITTER COLLECTION PROGRAMS,
BEACH CLEANUP EFFORTS.
NEW YORK CITY RESIDENTS USE
SOMETHING LIKE 9.37 BILLION
DISPOSABLE BAG AS YEAR.
THE CITY'S DEPARTMENT OF
SANITATION COLLECTS AN AVERAGE'S
1,700 TONS.
>> NUMBERS ARE STAGGERING.
>> THERE'S A FINANCIAL IMPACT.
THAT $12.5 MILLION FIGURE
ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE AND MANY OTHERS THAT
DOESN'T INCLUDE THE COST OF
LOCAL CLEANUP EFFORTS AND ALSO
THE FACT OF THE RAW MATERIALS
AND THE NATURAL RESOURCES THAT
ARE USED TO MAKE PLASTIC BAGS.
THERE'S, ALSO WE TALKED ABOUT
THE ISSUE HERE OF PLASTIC BAGS
GETTING STUCK IN TREES,
WATERWAYS CLOGGED.
NEIGHBORHOODS BEING LITTERED.
ENVIRONMENTAL AND FINANCIAL
BENEFITS.
>> HOW ABOUT THE OTHER JID WHAT
ARE FOLKS OBJECTED TO THIS
SAYING IN TERMS OF REASONS WHY
IT SHOULD NOT BE PASSED?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I DID POINT
TO ONE FORM OF OPPOSITION WHICH
IS THAT THIS DOESN'T GO FAR
ENOUGH.
IN THAT WHILE, YOU KNOW, BANNING
PLASTIC BAGS ALONE DOESN'T MEAN
PEOPLE WILL STOP USING THEM,
THERE NEEDS TO BE STRONGER
ENFORCEMENT.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, THE
FINANCIAL IMPACT.
THERE ARE STILL -- ELECTED
OFFICIALS, AND YOU KNOW, NEW
YORKERS WERE SAYING I DON'T WANT
TO HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL FEE.
>> WELL, AS ALWAYS, AS NEW YORK
POLITICS, THERE'S A LOT GOING
ON.
BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU SPENDING
TIME WITH US.
HOPE YOU'LL COME BACK AND TALK
MORE ABOUT THIS AS IT MOVES
FORWARD.
>> DEFINITELY.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> THANKS FOR JOINING US.
TAKE CARE, NOW.