>>> EVERY SUMMER THOUSANDS OF
LARGE WILDFIRES BURN ACROSS
THE HOT,
DRY WESTERN UNITED STATES.
AS CLIMATE CHANGE INCREASED,
AVERAGE TEMPERATURES,
A SUDDEN INCREASE IN FREQUENCY
AND INTENSITY OF WILDFIRES.
INSIDE EACH OF THESE FIRES ARE
SMALL CREWS WHO WORK TO
CONTAIN THEM BY HAND USING
SHOVELS AND PICKAXES AND
METHODS THAT HAVEN'T CHANGE
EADE ESSENTIALLY IN 60 YEARS.
AS A PART OF OUR PBS
INITIATIVE, PERIL AND PROMISE,
A LOOK AT THE EFFECTS OF
CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE FOCUS ON A NEW INDEPENDENT
LENS DOCUMENTARY CALLED
"WILDLANDS" WHICH TELLS THE
EPIC YET INTIMATE STORY OF ONE
CREW BATTLING WILDFIRES IN THE
WEST.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> I DON'T NEED IT TO PLAY
EVERY DAY.
I CAN DO THIS THING CALLED
ADULTHOOD.
>> FIGHTING FIRE IS JUST HOURS
OF HARD, BORING WORK,
PUNK KMU AKMU -- PUNCTUATED BY
MOMENTS OF SHEER TEARROR.
>> I WANT TO WORK HARD FOR A
REASON.
>> THIS KID FINALLY REALIZES
HE'S ALIVE.
>> "WILDLAND." PART OF
INDEPENDENT LAND ON PBS.
>> JOINING ME NOW FROM LOS
ANGELES,
CO-DIRECTOR AND PRODUCER OF
"WILDLANDS." GLAD TO HAVE YOU.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO THIS
SUBJECT?
>> SO IT'S PRETTY EASY.
I FIRST SAW MY FIRST WILDFIRE
WHEN I WAS 10 YEARS OLD,
ON A HIKE OUTSIDE OF JACKSON,
WYOMING,
AND I REMEMBER SEEING THE GUYS
GOING IN,
HIKING IN TO FIGHT IT,
AND JUST BEING IMMEDIATELY
INTERESTED IN THE IDEA OF
GOING A FIRE TO GO AND PUT IT
OUT.
IT SEEMS INSANE.
BUT IT ALSO SEEMED JUST THIS
KIND OF BEAUTIFUL DANCE WITH
NATURE.
AND REALLY INTERESTING TO ME.
AND THEN AS I WAS LOOKING FOR
A NEW FILM TO MAKE,
THE QUESTION OF KIND OF,
WHAT'S A STORY WE COULD TELL
ABOUT HOW YOUNG MEN GROW UP OR
COME OF AGE THAT WOULD BE
INTERESTING AND HASN'T BEEN
DONE BEFORE?
WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE?
IMMEDIATELY KIND OF THE IDEA
OF THAT WITH A LOT OF MY FIRE
FIGHTING CREW CLICKED AND IT
WENT FROM THERE.
>> I UNDERSTAND YOU ALSO DID
TRAINING?
FIRE FIGHTING TRAINING FOR
THIS?
TO GET A SENSE OF THIS?
>> YEAH.
I MEAN,
TO ACTUALLY -- EVEN BEYOND
THAT.
TO MAKE THE FILM WE ACTUALLY
BECAME FIREFIGHTERS AND WERE
ACTUALLY MEMBERS OF THE CREW.
SO WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE
DOING SHOOTING 10% 15,
15% OF OUR TIM ACTUALLY
WORKING.
HAULING HOSE, HIKING,
DOING EVERYTHING YOU SEE OUR
CREW OR ANY OTHER CREW DOES
AND ON OCCASION BREAK OUT THE
CAMERA AND GET SHOT.
>> TELL ME ABOUT THE PERSONAL
MOTIVATIONS THAT GOT THE
CHARACTERS IN YOUR FILM TO
SAY,
THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO.
>> I THINK THAT WITH THIS CREW
IN PARTICULAR,
THIS IS A CREW WHERE GUYS ARE
GETTING THEIR FEET WET IN FIRE
FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THESE ARE ALL ROOKIES.
THIS IS THE KIND OF BOTTOM
RUNG WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO
START OUT ON YOUR CAREER IN
WILDFIRES,
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO
DO.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE COME
TO THIS JOB ALMOST TOSSING
THEMSELVES TO THE WIND TO SEE
WHAT FATE HAS FOR THEM.
TRIED OTHER THINGS BUT ARE
YOUNG.
TWO ARE OUR CHARACTERS JUST
TURNED 23.
AT THAT AGE,
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S
GOING ON WITH THEIR LIVES.
WHAT KIND OF MEN THEY WANT TO
BE.
AND THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF KIND
OF TESTING YOURSELVES WITH
THIS JOB.
TO SEE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO
HOLD UP UNDER THE STRESS AND
PRESSURE AND UNDER THE LONG
HOURS.
I THINK THAT THESE GUYS WERE
LOOKING FOR THAT.
KIND OF LOOKING FOR,
DO I HAVE THIS IT GRIT?
DO I HAVE THE DETERMINATION TO
DO THIS?
AND IF I DO,
HOW IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE
THE COURSE OF MY LIFE?
>> TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES
OF TRYING TO FILM WHEN IN THE
MIDST OF FIGHTING A WILDFIRE?
>> THE PHYSICALITY OF MAKING
THIS FILM IS SOMETHING I THINK
SETS IT APART,
BECAUSE WE HAD TO HIKE IN.
CARRYING 55 POUNDS OF GEAR,
AND WORKING LONG HOURS.
WORKING SHIFTS AS A MINIMUM OF
ABOUT 12 HOURS.
I THINK THAT THE CHALLENGE,
OF COURSE, IS, NOT, YOU KNOW,
BEING EXHAUSTED.
BUT WITH THAT EXHAUSTION COMES
-- FINDING MOTIVATION TO STILL
MAKE GOOD WORK.
FINDING A WAY TO STILL, LIKE,
GO AND GET THAT SHOT OR PAY
ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
YOU'RE THE ONLY PERSON ON THE
CREW TRYING TO MAKE A SPARK IN
THE MIDDLE OF THAT THING.
>> ONE GENTLEMAN SAYS HOURS OF
LONG, HARD, BORING WORK.
PUNCTUATED BY MOMENTS OF SHEER
TERROR.
DOES THAT CAPTURE IT?
>> A LOT OF HURRY UP AND WAIT.
A LOT OF JUST, RIDING IN CARS.
TO GET FROM ONE PLACE TO
ANOTHER, AND EXHAUSTION,
AND BUG BITES, AND HEAT,
ALL THAT.
I THINK THAT ALL OF THAT -- IS
A BIG PART OF THE JOB AND THEN
THERE ARE TIMES EXHILARATING,
HELICOPTERS FLY IT'S OVERHEAD
AND BUCKET DROPS.
WHEN YOU'RE AT A FIRE YOU FEEL
LIKE YOU'RE AT THE CENTER OF
THE ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
G IS WORTH- >> ON YOUR JOURNEY
OF DISCOVERY HERE,
WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT
SURPRISED YOU MOST ABOUT THAT
JOURNEY?
>> I THINK THAT THE THING THAT
SURPRISED ME THE MOST IS --
HOW THE GUYS DRAW ON THE
EXPERIENCES THEY HAD AT 22 AND
23, PARTICULARLY IN FIRE,
THEY CARRY THROUGHOUT FOREVER,
THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THEIR
LIVES AND SOMETHING THEY
ALWAYS POINT BACK TO,
WHEN GOING THROUGH DIFFICULT
TIMES.
IF I SURVIVE THAT,
I CAN SURVIVE THIS.
>> A FABULOUS FILM AND YOU DID
MARVELOUS WORK.
I THANK YOU FOR SPENDING A
LITTLE TIME AND TALKING WITH
US ABOUT IT.
YOU BE WELL.
>> THANK YOU.
TAKE CARE.
>>> A REMINDER,
THE DOCUMENTARY "WILDLAND"
LAUNCHES THE NEW SEASON OF
INDEPENDENT LENS MONDAY
OCTOBER 29th,
2018 ON PBS AT 9:00 P.M.
FOR MORE INFORMATION,
GO TO METROFOCUS.ORG.