>>> NOW AS THE WAR IN UKRAINE

RAGES ON, THE WEST IS STRUGGLING

TO PULL THE PLUG ON RUSSIAN OIL

AND GAS.

SVITLANA ROMANKO IS A UKRAINIAN

CLIMATE ACTIVIST AND

ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER WHO JOINS

WALTER ISAACSON TO DISCUSS

FOSSIL FUEL ADDICTION AND THE

IMPACT OF THE CLIMATE WARS.

>> THANK YOU, CHRISTIANE.

AND SVITLANA ROMANKO, WELL TO

THE SHOW.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, WALTER FOR

HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

>> YOU ARE JOINING US FROM YOUR

HOME IN WESTERN UKRAINE.

TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT

NOW AND HOW THINGS ARE, WHY

YOU'RE BACK THERE.

>> MISSILES AND BOMBS ARE STILL

FLIES OVER THE TERRITORY OF

UKRAINE CONSTANTLY.

AND A FEW DAYS AGO THERE WERE

EXPLOSIONS IN OUR NEIGHBORING

CITY LVIV, NOT FAR FROM MY HOME

AS WELL.

AND WE STILL HAVE CONTINUING AIR

ALARMS ALL THE TIME, JUST

NOTIFYING US THAT THERE WERE

SOME OTHER ATTACKS WITH MISSILES

AND BOMBS ON THE OTHER TERRITORY

AS WELL.

BUT OUR AIR DEFENSE FORCES ARE

WORKING WELL TO PROTECT US.

AND CURRENTLY I CAN SAY THAT

ACTUALLY ALL DREADFUL DEATH

DRUGS, VIOLENCE, HOMICIDE

AGAINST UKRAINIANS ARE STILL

HAPPENING MOSTLY THE EASTERN

SIDE OF THE COUNTRY.

>> WHY HAVE YOU REMAINED THERE?

DO YOU FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT FOR

YOU TO BE IN UKRAINE TO CONTINUE

THIS FIGHT?

>> IT FEELS MORE THAN IMPORTANT

TO ME, AS FROM THE SECOND DAY OF

WAR, WHEN THE WAR JUST STARTED,

AND I DO RECALL THIS TIME THE

FIRST DAY WHEN WE JUST WATCHED

THE SPEECH OF THE SAME DICTATOR

OP TV AND THEN WE SUDDENLY

UNDERSTOOD THE WAR AGAINST US,

THE UKRAINE HAS BEEN DECLARED AT

THAT TIME.

SO WE AT SECOND ZA I STARTED TO

THINKING WHAT WE CAN DO AS

CLIMATE ACTIVISTS, WHAT I CAN DO

PERSONALLY AS AN ACTIVIST, AS A

CAMPAIGN MANAGER, AS A CITIZEN

OF MY COUNTRY TO STOP AND TO END

THIS HORRIFIC WAR.

SO THAT'S HOW I STARTED TO STAND

WITH UKRAINE CALL TO ATTENTION

AND STARTED ORGANIZE AROUND THIS

CAMPAIGN.

AND OF COURSE IT FEELS VERY

IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE ON TO STAY

ON THE SIDE OF UKRAINIANS AND

HELP US TO ENTHE WAR AGAINST

UKRAINE.

>> TODAY WE'RE COMMEMORATING

EARTH DAY.

AND YOU'RE A GREAT CLIMATE

ACTIVIST, ENVIRONMENTAL

ACTIVIST, A LAWYER.

TELL US HOW THIS WAR IN UKRAINE

IS INTERSECTING WITH THE

ENVIRONMENTAL CAUSES THAT YOU

SUPPORT.

>> THIS IS A TIPPING POINT FOR

US AS A HUMANITY.

TO END MULTIPLE CRISISES THAT WE

ARE FACING WITH ENERGY CRISIS,

CLIMATE CRISIS, CRISIS OF HUMAN

RIGHTS AND INTERNATIONAL LEGAL

REGULATION, INTERNATIONAL

AGREEMENTS, I WOULD ALSO SAY,

AND MAKE THOSE WHO -- MAKE THOSE

WHO AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND

MAKE DAMAGE TO ENVIRONMENT TO

CLIMATE, AND TO MY COUNTRY PAY

INEVITABLY PAY FOR ALL THE

CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED.

AND WE WON'T REST UNTIL THOSE

CRIMES WILL BE PUNISHED IN

APPROPRIATELY.

AND ESPECIALLY SPEAKING ABOUT

THE WAR IN MY COUNTRY, IT'S SUCH

A SYMBOLIC EARTH DAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO RECALL THAT FOR

NOW UP THE LATEST U.N. REPORT

IT'S NOT ONLY WAR AGAINST

UKRAINE BECAUSE IT HAS ALREADY

AFFECTED 1.7 BILLION PEOPLE IN

107 COUNTRIES WHO NOW ARE FACED

WITH RISING PRICES FOR FOOD AND

ENERGY, AND NOT EVEN SAYING WHAT

IS HAPPENING IN MY COUNTRY RIGHT

NOW.

AND I'M HOLDING ALL WORLD

LEADERS RIGHT NOW I HOPE THEY

WILL WATCHING.

I CALL ON POLITICAL PARTIES,

CALLING ON DEPUTIES THINKING IN

THE PARLIAMENTS AND BANKS THOSE

IN COMPANIES WHO ARE KEEPING

INVESTMENT IN FOSSIL FEW FUELS

IT'S NOT A TIME FOR DOING

BUSINESS AS USUAL.

WE SHOULD MEET AT STOCKHOLM PLUS

50 AND WE SHOULD END FOSSIL

FUELS EVERYWHERE AND WE SHOULD

HAVE COUNTRIES THERE AND SIGN A

FOSSIL FUEL NON-PROLIFERATION

TREATY WHICH IS EXTREMELY

IMPORTANT TO DO RIGHT NOW WHEN

WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE FOR

SURVIVAL AND FOR MEETING ALL

CRISISES, CLIMATE CRISIS, WAR

CRISIS, BECAUSE I -- THIS IS WAR

IN MY COUNTRY.

BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT MANY

WARS AND CONFLICT FUSE FUELED BY

FOSSIL FUELS IN MANY OTHER

COUNTRIES.

AND IT'S VERY CENTRAL AND

IMPORTANT HOW WE TACKLE THESE

KREMLINS AND PUTIN'S THREAT AS

HUMANITY.

BECAUSE OTHER DICTATORS ARE

PROBABLY WATCHING.

AND WHILE GROWING FOSSIL FUEL

RESERVES THEY JUST WANT TO STEP

IN AND BE A SUPPLIER AFTER WE

DEFEAT PUTIN AND AS THAT

SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE PHASE

OUT ALL FOSSIL FUELS, NOT JUST

REPLACE WITH THEM WITH OTHER

SOURCES FROM SOME OTHER

COUNTRIES.

>> YOU SAY WE SHOULD NOT REPLACE

THEM WITH OTHER SOURCES FROM

OTHER COUNTRIES.

BUT TO GET EUROPE THROUGH THE

WINTER WITHOUT USING RUSSIAN OIL

AND RUSSIAN GAS, SHOULD THERE BE

KPOERMTS FROM THE UNLS OF LIQUID

FIED NATURAL GAS.

SOME TRANSITION PERIOD SO RUSSIA

DOESN'T HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER

THE NEEDS THIS COMING WINTER.

>> THAT'S WHERE VERY IMPORTANT

TO RECOGNIZE THAT RUSSIA DOES

NOT HAVE A FULL CONTROL EVEN

NOW, BECAUSE THE COUNTRIES ALL

OVER THE WORLD INCLUDING THE

U.S., UK AND CANADA AND THE EU

PARTIALLY AS WE SEE ARE MOVING

TOWARDS THE FULL EMBARRING ON

RUSSIAN FOSSIL FUELS.

SO RUSSIA DOES NOT HAVE CONTROL.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO BUT THEY

DON'T.

THEY DON'T HAVE FOR NOW.

I KNOW THE BEST THING THAT THE

U.S. FOR EXAMPLE CAN IMPORT

RATHER THAN OIL AND GAS RESERVES

AND STARTING NEW EXPLORATION.

THESE ARE HEAT BOMBS AND NEW

TECHNOLOGIES REALLY GREEN

TECHNOLOGIES WHICH WILL LET

EUROPEANS FOR EXAMPLE TO LIVE

THROUGH THE WINTER AND TRY TO

MAKE REPLACEMENT AND SUCCESSFUL

TRY AS WELL.

BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE MAKE GREEN

REVOLUTION POSSIBLE.

AND THE FIRST STEP, OF COURSE,

RUSSIAN OIL GAS AND COAL WHICH

SHOULD HAPPEN IN THE WORLD.

BUT THE SECOND STEP JUST

IMMEDIATING HALTING OF FOLLOWSLE

FUEL EXPANSION EVERYWHERE, BY

EVERY NATION WORLDWIDE.

WE ALL HAVE TO COMMIT TO

TRANSITION AWAY FROM ALL FOSSIL

FUELS.

AND RELIANCE ON COAL, OIL AND

GAS, I HAVE TO STRESS ON THAT

SPECIFICALLY THAT IT'S

INTENTIONAL EMBRACE OF DEATH,

MISERY AND COLLAPSE AT A GLOBAL

SCALE.

SO WE HAVE ALL CHANCES AS A

HUMANITY TO LIVE THROUGH THE

COLD WINTER IF WE FIRST OF ALL

WILL CUT OUR ENERGY SUPPLY.

THAT'S ESSENTIAL IF EVERYONE

UNDERSTANDS THAT WE CAN'T USE AS

MUCH FOSSIL FUELS AS WE USED TO

BECAUSE FOSSIL FUELS ARE NOW

KILLING -- KILLING PEOPLE AND

THEY HAVE BECOME A TOOL MASS

DESTRUCTION IT'S A PLORL AND

ETHICAL CHOICE WE HAVE TO MAKE,

EVERYONE OF US IN EUROPE AND IN

THE U.S., IN THE UK.

>> YOU RECENTLY WROTE AN OP-ED

FOR THE LOS ANGELES TIMES WITH

THE AMERICAN ENVIRONMENTALIST

BILL McGIBB KIBEN LET ME GIVE

YOU A QUICK QUOTE.

YOU WANT YOU SAID THE WORLD

BANKS I REMEMBER MERE MORALLY

WORKED TO BUILD THE RUSSIA.

OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY FUNDING

RUSSIA'S ARMY AND THE INDUSTRY

THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS USED AS

A CUDGEL FOR DECADES TO KEEP

EUROPE COWERING.

WHAT MORE SHOULD PRESIDENT BIDEN

BE DOING?

AND WHAT MORE SHOULD THE BANKS

BE DOING TO STOP ANY INVESTMENTS

THAT WOULD HELP RUSSIA'S

PETROCHEMICAL STATE?

>> YES, BANKS ARE HOLDING

FINANCIAL POWER.

THEY ARE HOLDING IMMENSE

RESOURCES, WHICH HAVE BEEN USED

FOR YEARS FOR SPONSORING SOME

RUSSIAN OIL AND GAS COMPANIES.

SO THERE ARE CLOSE CONNECTIONS

BETWEEN JOON-PYO MORGAN CHASE

FOR EXAMPLE AND EXXONMOBIL, AND

RUSSIAN OIL AND GAS CONSTRUCTION

COMPANIES THAT WE ALL KNOW.

BUT, YEAH, THE HUGE FINANCIAL

RESERVES SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY

DIVESTED FROM EXISTING

INFRASTRUCTURE AND FOSSIL FUELS.

BECAUSE WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN DID

AND WHAT WE ARE TRULY GRATEFUL

FOR HIS LEADERSHIP, I THINK WE

ARE -- WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT

HE STRIKES -- STRIKE INTO THE

HEART OF PUTIN'S WAR MACHINE

WHEN HE PUT AN EMBARGO ON OIL

AND GAS FROM RUSSIA.

AND THE SECOND HE PUT A BAN ON

ENFORCED A BAN ON ALL NEW

INVESTMENTS MADE FROM THE U.S.

TO RUSSIA CURRENTLY.

BUT I THINK THERE IS STILL

SOMETHING THAT BANKS CAN DO AND

THAT SOMETHING THAT CITIZENS CAN

DO FOR BANKS TO ASK THE BANKERS

JUST DIVEST ALL EXISTING FUNDS

FROM FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY.

AND NOT ONLY FROM RUSSIA, FROM

RUSSIAN AS A PRIORITY, YES,

BECAUSE IT'S KILLING PEOPLE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME ARE THE

BANKS WHICH ARE A BULL WASHING

OF AUTOCRACY SHOULD CHANGE --

THE GREEN REVOLUTION SHOULD

START FROM THOSE BANKS IN

PARTICULAR.

THEY HAVE TO NOT JUST ONLY

ANSWER FINANCIAL SERVICES FOR

ALL INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT ALSO I MEAN ---EN A ALL --

ALL INFRASTRUCTURE BUT NOT TO --

NOT TO PROVIDE LOANS AND

FINANCIAL SERVICES FOR NEW

FOSSIL FUEL SPLOERKSS NOWHERE

NEITHER IN AFRICA OR LATIN

AMERICA, NOWHERE, NOT TO INVEST

INTO THE ASSETS THAT DEFINITELY

BE STRANDED.

>> THE UNITED STATES AND MUCH OF

EUROPE HAS PUT SANCTIONS ON

RUSSIAN OIL, TRIED TO STOP THE

FLOW OF RUSSIAN OIL.

AND NATURAL GAS.

BUT MOST COUNTRIES OF THIS WORLD

ARE NOT REALLY SUPPORTING THAT.

YOU HAVE CHINA.

YOU HAVE INDIA.

YOU HAVE COUNTRIES THROUGHOUT

AFRICA.

YOU EVEN HAVE ISRAEL THAT ARE

NOT TRYING TO DO IT.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE

COUNTRIES WHO ARE NOT PART OF

THE PUSHBACK AGAINST THE USE OF

ANY RUSSIAN OIL OR GAS?

>> FOR COUNTRIES THAT AS IN THE

CHINA, JAPAN, FOR EXAMPLE, AND

STAND WITH UKRAINE CAMPAIGN WAS

COMMAND LI DEMANDED FROM THOSE

GOVERNMENTS AS WELL, JUST TO

STOP, STOP BUYING, ENFORCE

EMBARGO AND RUSSIAN OIL AND GAS

IN SHORT PERSPECTIVE.

AND OF COURSE PHASE OUT FOSSIL

FUELS IN THE LONGER PERSPECTIVE.

BUT I THINK THAT'S ONLY

COLLECTIVE EFFORTS BECAUSE WE

SHARE ONE CLIMATE.

WE HAVE SAME CLIMATE SAME

CLIMATE CRISIS I WILL QUOTA

RECENT STUDY BY THE GERMAN

INSTITUTE FOR ECONOMIC RESEARCH,

GERMANY SAID GERMANY COULD STOP

USING RUSSIAN GAS AS EARLY AS

2027.

THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE AND

ALWAYS AN OPTION TO END -- TO

END OUR ATTRACTION TO FOLLOWSLE

FUELS EVEN FOR SUCH ENERGY

CONSUMING COUNTRIES LIKE INDIA,

CHINA.

AND CHINA ACTUALLY WE WROTE

LETTER TO CHINA AND WE STATION

PARTNERS WARNING THEM OF BUYING

THE CHEAP ASSETS WHICH REMAIN IN

RUSSIAN FOSSIL FUEL

INFRASTRUCTURE AND INDUSTRY

AFTER ALL OTHER -- AFTER NEW

INVESTMENTS WERE ENDED AND SOME

COMPANIES AND BANKS DIVESTED

FROM RUSSIA.

WE MAKE A WARNING THAT DON'T BUY

THESE ASSETS FROM RUSSIA.

IT'S -- BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL

CHANCES TO BECOME A A LEADER OF

GREEN TRANSFORMATION.

WE JUST NEED, I BELIEVE, MORE

PRESSURE AND MORE INTERHE IS

CONNECTION AND UNDERSTANDING OF

INTERCONNECTION BETWEEN CLIMATE

CRISIS AND THE WARS AND CONFLICT

AND THE ENERGY CRISIS.

AND HOW OUR FUTURE WILL LOOK

LIKE.

AT THE LAST POINT, ALL THOSE

STATES SHOULD MAKE THAT

REGISTER -- REGISTERS OF FOSSIL

FUELS PUBLIC.

AND WE SHOULD KNOW HOW MANY EACH

COUNTRY HAS.

WE SHOULD KNOW AND EACH COUNTRY

SHOULD COMMIT OF

NON-PROLIFERATION OF THOSE TO

FOSSIL FULTS IN THE LONGER

PERSPECTIVE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

IT SOUNDS LIKE -- LIKE A BIT OF

FANTASTIC BECAUSE WE ARE ALL

DEPENDENT.

BUT IT JUST SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE

UNTIL IT'S DONE.

>> IN ADDITION TO THE TRAGIC

LOSS OF LIFE THAT RUSSIA HAS

INFLICTED ON YOUR COUNTRY,

UKRAINE, IT'S ALSO INFLICTED A

LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE THIS

WAR.

TELL ME WHAT TYPE OF DAMAGE TO

PROTECTED REGIONS, TO WATER, TO

THE LAND, HAS BEEN CAUSED BY

RUSSIA DURING THIS WAR.

>> ALREADY IT'S -- WE ALL KNOW

THAT THE DAMAGE HAS BEEN HUGE.

AND THE -- WE WILL JUST KEEP

FEELING THOSE LOSSES FOR YEARS

AND YEARS AHEAD.

FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE EAST OF THE

COUNTRY AND ESPECIALLY IN THE

EASTERN AND THE SOUTH.

THERE WERE A LOT OF -- A LOT OF

INDUSTRIAL -- INDUSTRIAL PLANTS

AND ALL -- AND COAL MINES AND AS

WELL AS CHEMICAL ENTERPRISES.

AND ALL THESE CHEMICALS

SUBSTANCES AND TOXIC -- TOXIC

LIQUIDS HAVE BEEN -- HAVE BEEN

AFTER THE DESTRUCTION LEAKED

INTO THE GROUND INTO THE WATERS,

INTO THE AIR.

AND, AGAIN, THOSE MISSILES AND

BOMBS, THOSE HEAVY MILITARY

INFRASTRUCTURE IS IT STILL

REMAINING ON THE LANDS.

AS WELL PRODUCING MORE CO2

EMISSIONS AS WELL.

WHILE FLYING AND PRODUCING MORE

WASTE AS WELL THAT WE WILL NEED

TO -- TO UTILIZE -- AFTER THE

WAR ENDS.

AND BUT, OF COURSE, IT'S A HUGE,

HUGE THREAT AND HUGE DAMAGE TO

BIODIVERSITY.

AND I'M NOT SURE FOR NEURONOW

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OFFICIAL

ASSESSMENTS.

OUR MINISTRY IS TRACKING THE

DAMAGE.

PROBABLY WE WILL BE EVEN

SPEAKING ABOUT ECOCIDE WHICH

MEANS MASSIVE, MASSIVE

DESTRUCTION OF AND MASSIVE HARM

TO THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND OF COURSE I WOULD SAY WE

WON'T REST -- I BELIEVE NEITHER

OUR AUTHORITIES OR ACTIVISTS

UNTIL ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL

CRIMES WILL BE PUNISHED AND

REIMBURSED IN APPROPRIATE

MANNER.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A EUROPEAN

PRINCIPLE THAT POLLUTER PAYS.

BUT POLLUTER SHOULD PAY 10 TIMES

THE PRICE AND EVEN MORE BIG

PRICE FOR ALL THIS DESTRUCTION.

>> THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRISIS

THAT'S BEEN CAUSED BY THIS WAR

HAS INTERSECTED WITH THE FOOD

CRISIS.

AND THE FOOD CRISIS IS GOING TO

AFFECT THE WHOLE WORLD.

HOW ARE THOSE TWO CRISIS RELATED

>> EVERYTHING IS INTERSWEKTED IN

OUR SYSTEM.

AND EVERYTHING IS INTERCONNECTED

IN POLICY.

AND EVERYTHING IS INTERCONNECTED

AND HARMED BY THIS WAR.

HORRIFIC WAR IN UKRAINE THAT WE

SO MUCH WANT TO HAVE ENDED.

AND THEY ARE INTERCONNECTED

BECAUSE UKRAINE HAS VERY FERTILE

LANDS AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST

PRODUCERS OF GRAIN, OF WHEAT.

NOW WITH THE SEA PORTS BEING

BLOCKED, OUR SHIPS CANNOT STILL

DELIVER THOSE -- THOSE FOOD

PRODUCTS TO THE CUSTOMERS.

SO IT -- TO DIFFERENT

ASSESSMENTS WILL BE HUNGER IN

SOME COUNTRIES WHICH WILL NEVER

CONNECT WITH OUR COUNTRY IF WE

DID NOT SPECIFICALLY OUR COUNTRY

IMPORT THE FOOD PRODUCTS,

ESPECIALLY IN AFRICA AND IN

OTHER COUNTRIES.

SO IT TRULY IMPACTS ALL -- ALL

HUMANITY AND ALL THE POPULATION,

ESPECIALLY IN DEVELOPING

COUNTRIES.

>> YOU HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THE

CLIMATE BATTLE FOR A LONG TIME

AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER, WELL

BEFORE THIS WAR.

TELL ME HOW THIS WAR HAS CHANGED

WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

>> I WOULD NOT SAY IT CHANGED

MUCH.

IT JUST MADE ME FOCUSED

SPECIFICALLY IMPORTANCE OF THE

MOMENT, WHILE WE CUT ALL

FINANCIAL TIES WHICH FLOW --

WHICH STILL BRING KREMLIN AND

PUTIN ENORMOUS MONEY TO FEED THE

WAR AGAINST MY COUNTRY.

I'VE BEEN VERY -- JUST VERY BUSY

TRULY AND PASSIONATELY WITHSTAND

WITH UKRAINE CAMPAIGN.

AND THANKS FOR THE GLOBAL

SOLIDARITY, BECAUSE I WAS NOT

DOING THAT ALONE.

BUT 770 ORGANIZATIONS FROM 60

COUNTRIES, STARTING FROM AND

GOLA, NIGERIA, TO PACIFIC

COUNTRIES INCLUDING MANY

ORGANIZATIONS, THEY SIGNED OFF

AND THEY ARE TRYING TO CAMPAIGN

AGAINST -- AGAINST THE FOSSIL

FUELS AND AGAINST THE ALL

ACROSS -- ALL CRISIS WE NAMED

TODAY.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IT CHANGED IN

A WAY THAT I FELT A HUGE GLOBAL

SOLIDARITY, WHICH BRINGS ME HOPE

THAT WE CAN OVERCOME THE WAR IN

UKRAINE.

WE CAN OVERCOME CLIMATE CRIES.

WE STILL HAVE TIME.

BUT WE NEED TO TO USE THE TIME

IN THE BEST WAY WE CAN.

WHEN I SEE YOUNG PEOPLE

OCCUPYING THE STREETS AND

DEMANDING FULL EMBARGO FOR PEACE

FROM EUROPE AND U.S. AND OTHER

COUNTRIES IT BRINGS ME HOPE WHEN

SOME GOVERNMENTS TURN TO

MEASURES TO END INVESTMENTS OR

IMPOSE AN EMBARGO ON FOSSIL

FUELS OR BAN NEW EXPLORATIONS IN

THEIR COUNTRIES IT BRINGS ME

HOPE.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THIS

HOPE WITH EVERYONE WHO IS

LISTENING.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO

EVERYONE WHO IS LISTENEDING,

DON'T BE -- DON'T BE NEUTRAL IN

THIS CASE.

YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE

WAR.

YOU CAN DO ACTUALLY A LOT OF

ABOUT STOPPING AND TACKLING

CLIMATE CRISIS.

AND JUST, PLEASE, START TO DO IT

TODAY.

>> SVITLANA ROMANKO, THANK YOU

FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, WALTER.

IT WAS MY REAL PLEASURE TO BE

HERE AND TO SPEAK WITH YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.