>>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO
THIS "METROFOCUS" SPECIAL
REPORT.
I'M JENNA FLANAGAN.
THIS SUMMER IS EXPECTED TO BE
ESPECIALLY HOT, AND WHILE HEAT
WAVES POSE A THREAT TO EVERYONE,
SOME NEW YORKERS ARE MORE AT
RISK TO THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE
CHANGE THAN OTHERS.
HEAT KILLS ABOUT 350 CITY
RESIDENTS EACH YEAR WORK BLACK
NEW YORKERS MORE THAN TWICE AS
LIKELY TO DIE THAN WHITE
RESIDENTS.
NEW YORK IS ALSO ENTERING
HURRICANE SEASON, AND THOUGH
IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS SINCE
SUPERSTORM SANDY DEVASTATED THE
REGION, THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY
THAT STORM AND OTHERS SINCE IS
STILL WITH US.
SO FOR MUCH MORE, LET'S WELCOME
BACK OUR GO-TO EXPERT ON THE
PLANET, BILL OLFELDER.
HE JOINS US AS PART OF OUR
ONGOING INITIATIVE, REPORTING ON
THE HUMAN STORIES OF CLIMATE
CHANGE AND ITS SOLUTIONS.
BILL, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU
BACK ON THE SHOW.
>> THANKS, JENNA.
I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE IN NEW YORK WITH
YOU, SO THANKS.
>> WELL, SO, FIRST, LET'S START
WITH THE ISSUE THAT I THINK MOST
PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO
START NOTICING, BECAUSE OF
COURSE FOR WHERE NEW YORK CITY
IS SITUATED.
IT'S THE HEAT AND HUMIDITY, AND
THOSE TWO THINGS ARE GOING TO
START RISING SIGNIFICANTLY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT, AND YOU
MENTIONED THE STATISTIC OF HOW
MANY HUNDRED OF NEW YORKERS DIE
EACH YEAR FROM HEATSTROKE AND
HEAT RELATED ILLNESSES, AND THIS
IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.
AS I SAY, THE THING WE DON'T
LOVE ABOUT NEW YORK, HEAT AND
MOISTURE, THESE ARE EXACTLY THE
THINGS CLIMATE CHANGE IS
BRINGING SOME WE'RE EXPECTING TO
SEE -- THE SCIENCE TELLS US
WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM AN
AVERAGE OF ABOUT TWO HEAT WAVES
A YEAR PROBABLY TO SOMETHING
LIKE SEVEN BY 2050.
THAT'S OVER 60 DAYS OF 90 PLUS
DEGREES.
IMAGINE ALL OF JULY AND AUGUST
BEING 90 PLUS DEGREES.
IT'S KIND OF MISERABLE, AND NOT
JUST THAT, IT'S A KILLER.
A SILENT KILLER, NUMBER ONE
WEATHER RELATED KILLER IN THE
UNITED STATES.
>> YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING, AND
IT'S AN ISSUE I PERSONALLY
STRUGGLE WITH, BUT I THINK A LOT
OF PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH WITH THE
ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, AND
THAT IS THAT IT'S ALL GOING TO
GET WORSE.
WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH
THESE HEAT WAVES IN NEW YORK,
ARE THERE THINGS THAT ARE --
SOME SORT OF TACTICS OR
SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO
HELP EASE THE SUFFERING THAT WE
KNOW IS COMING?
>> RIGHT.
WELSH THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT
POINT, AND I THINK THERE'S TWO
THINGS.
I MEAN, ONE IS IT IS GOING TO
GET WORSE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE BEEN EMITTING
CARBON POLLUTION LONG ENOUGH
THAT THERE IS MORE WORSE STUFF
COMING THAT'S JUST BUILT INTO
THE SYSTEM.
I MEAN, EVEN IF WE STOPPED
EMITTING ALL CARBON POLLUTION
TODAY IT WOULD STILL GET WORSE
FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
THEN OF COURSE THE QUESTION IS,
ARE WE TAKING THE STEPS TO
REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CARBON
POLLUTION GOING FORWARD?
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CONSTANTLY
HAVE TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO.
I MEAN, A PIECE OF, I GUESS
WE'LL CALL IT GOOD NEWS, IS
THERE ARE SOME SIMPLE, WE'LL
CALL THEM ROBUST AND ELEGANT
SOLUTIONS TO HEAT.
THE NUMBER ONE THING WE AT THE
NATURE CONSERVANCY TALK ABOUT,
WE'RE WORKING WITH A BIG
COALITION, IS THE TREES AND THE
POWER OF TREES IN THE CITY TO
SOME NEIGHBORHOODS AS MUCH AS 20
DEGREES.
PLUS, YOU KNOW, THEY GIVE US
OXYGEN, CLEAN AIR TO BREATHE,
THEY CAPTURE CARBON, CLEAN OUR
WATER, PROVIDE WILDLIFE HABITAT.
THEY IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUE.
SO JUST INCREASING THE NUMBER OF
TREES AND THE FOREST CANOPY
COVER IN THE CITY WILL HAVE A
DRAMATIC POSITIVE IMPACT ON
REDUCING THE IMPACTS OF HEAT ON
NEW YORKERS.
>> WHEN YOU SAY INCREASING THE
NUMBER OF CANOPY TREES --
BECAUSE PERHAPS A PERSON COULD
SAY, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
THIS CITY IS FULL OF PARKS.
CENTRAL PARK'S HUGE, AND
MANHATTAN ALONE.
WHY IS THAT NOT GOOD ENOUGH?
>> RIGHT, WELL, WE NEED MORE.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING.
AND THE TREES AND PARKS ARE VERY
INEQUITABLY DISTRIBUTED ACROSS
THE CITY.
IF YOU LOOKED AT NEW YORK.
IF YOU WERE A BIRD OR SATELLITE
AND LOOKING DOWN AND YOU SEE THE
CITY, THERE'S ABOUT 22% OF THE
CITY WOULD BE COVERED IN TREES
DURING, WE'LL CALL IT, LIKE, THE
SUMMER TIME WHEN THEY'RE FULLY
LEAFED OUT.
WHAT THE ANALYSIS OF NATURE
CONSERVANCY AND OUR PARTNERS IS
THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY AND
NEED TO ADD ABOUT 2 MILLION
TREES TO THE CANOPY, WHICH WOULD
GROW IT FROM 22% COVERAGE OF THE
CITY TO 30% COVERAGE.
BUT WHAT WE REALLY HAVE TO DO IS
PUT THAT IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
HAVE VERY FEW TREES.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT.
LIKE, YOU THINK OF CENTRAL PARK.
I LIVE NEAR COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY.
THESE ARE THE MOST TREED
SECTIONS OF NEW YORK CITY.
THEY'RE ALREADY ALMOST AT 30%.
BUT IF YOU THINK OF HUNT'S
ISLAND, JAMAICA QUEENS, NORTH
SHORE OF STATEN ISLAND, THESE
ARE TREES THAT HAVE SINGLE DIGIT
PERCENTAGES OF TREE CANOPY WHERE
THEY ARE.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE NEED TO
BE FOCUSING THE INVESTMENT IN
THE YEARS AHEAD IS MAKING SURE
THEY GET MORE TREES, THEY GET
MORE PARKS.
>> OF COURSE, AND AS YOU LISTED
OFF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, ONE OF
THE FIRST THINGS THAT CAME TO
MIND IS PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THE
HOUSING DISPARITY THAT HAS
PLAGUED THE CITY FOR
GENERATIONS.
>> EXACTLY.
I MEAN, THE REASON -- THE LACK
OF TREES IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS
IS SYMPTOMATIC OF HISTORIC
POLICIES, ZONINGS, ET CETERA,
WHICH HAVE DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND LOWER
INCOME COMMUNITIES.
THINGS LIKE RED LINING WHERE,
THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE NOT
ABLE TO HAVE THE SAME ACCESS TO
MORTGAGE LOANS TO BE ABLE TO
INVEST IN HOMES, TO BUY
PROPERTIES, AND THAT HAS JUST
ALL ADDED UP OVER TIME, AND SO
WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO THINK
ABOUT IS, HOW DO WE MAKE INVEST
INVESTMENTS TODAY THAT GIVE THEM
MORE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THE
URBAN FOREST, TO PARKS THAT THEY
TOO HAVE PARKS TEN MINUTES
WITHIN THEIR FRONT DOOR WHERE
THEY CAN COOL OFF AND FEEL ALL
THE BENEFITS NATURE PROVIDES.
>> IN ADDITION TO BEING ABLE TO
GO OUTSIDE AND HAVE TREES AND AS
YOU WERE SAYING, CLEANER AIR, ET
CETERA, THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE
OF HOW YOU'RE ABLE TO SURVIVE
THE SUMMER IN YOUR APARTMENT.
A LOT OF THE NEW BUILDINGS, THIS
WINDOWS ARE CLOSED BECAUSE
THEY'RE CLIMATE CONTROLLED.
BUT SAY YOU'RE IN A NEW BUILDING
A WALKUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
IS THERE ENOUGH EQUITY WHEN IT
COMES TO AIR-CONDITIONING?
>> NO.
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
AND AIR-CONDITIONING, IT'S A
TRICKY CRAZY THING, BECAUSE ON
THE ONE HAND WE NEED MORE AIR
CONDITIONERS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF
HEAT WAVES THAT ARE COMING, THE
NUMBER OF DAYS, AND HEAT REALLY
DOES TEND TO MAKE ILL AND EVEN
KILL YOUNGER PEOPLE, OLDER
PEOPLE, PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING
CONDITIONS, AND PEOPLE WITH
FEWER RESOURCES.
BUT THE THING ABOUT AIR
CONDITIONERS IS THEY SPEW OUT
HOT AIR.
LIKE, AS THEY SCHOOL INDOOR
SPACES.
SO WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GET IN
REALLY BAD FEEDBACK LOOP WHERE
ALREADY HOT NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IN THE LONG RUN WHAT WE NEED
TO BE THINKING ABOUT IS HOW DO
WE TAKE ALL THE STEPS OF ADDING
TREES -- WE'RE GOING TO NEED AIR
CONDITIONERS.
IT'S PART OF WHAT WE NEED HERE,
BUT ALSO, LIKE, COOLING CENTERS.
THERE WAS A RECENT ARTICLE
TALKING ABOUT THE ROLE LIBRARIES
PLAY IN PEOPLE'S LIVES AND THE
OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO A LOCAL
LIBRARY AND COOL OFF THERE.
ANOTHER THING WE DON'T WANT TO
OVERLOOK IS IT'S SO IMPORTANT IN
TERMS OF CLIMATE CHANGE, CLIMATE
RESILIENCE AND NATURAL
DISASTERS, WHETHER THAT'S HEAT
WAVES, BIG RAIN BOMBS,
HURRICANES, IS THE COHESION OF
COMMUNITIES.
AND THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
RESILIENCE IS FAR BETTER.
PEOPLE FAIR BETTER THROUGH
NATURAL DISASTERS WHEN THEY'RE
LOOKING AFTER EACH OTHER.
AND SO STEPS WE CAN TAKE, IF
WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR
NEIGHBORS, CHECKING IN ON THEM.
IF YOU HAVE AN OLDER NEIGHBOR, A
NEIGHBOR WITH PREEXISTING
CONDITIONS, MAKING SURE THEY'RE
OKAY, THAT GOES A LONG WAY TO
FEWER PEOPLE GETTING SICK AND
MORE PEOPLE SURVIVING THE
EFFECTS OF A POWERFUL HEAT WAVE.
SO TOGETHER.
>> AND I THINK THAT'S TRUE IN SO
MANY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.
BUT IS THAT JUST A MATTER OF
MAKING SURE PEOPLE HAVE ENOUGH
WATER TO HYDRATE, GETTING INTO
COOLING CENTERS?
LIKE, IS IT JUST, HEY, ARE YOU
OKAY?
KIND OF CHECKING IN?
OR IS THERE AN EXTRA STEP BEYOND
THAT?
>> I THINK IT'S EVERYTHING YOU
JUST DESCRIBED.
DEFINITELY CHECKING IN ON
PEOPLE.
BRINGING THEM COOL WATER IF THEY
DON'T HAVE IT.
SOME PEOPLE, IF THEY'RE GROCERY
SHOPPING DAY-TO-DAY AND IT'S,
LETS SAY, 100 DEGREES AND HIGH
HUMIDITY, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE
TO MAKE THAT TRIP.
IT'S JUST ABOUT CARING FOR
NEIGHBORS.
I LOVE YOUR POINT, WE JUST KIND
OF NEED THIS MORE ALL ACROSS THE
CITY AND COUNTRY THESE DAYS THAT
WE'RE LOOKING OUT AND CHECKING
IN ON EACH OTHER AND SEEING
WHAT'S NEEDED AND RESPONDING TO
THAT.
BUT IT MAY BE TAKING A NEIGHBOR
TO A COOLING SENT OTHER OR
TAKING THEM SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY
CAN COOL OFF IN ORDER TO BE ABLE
TO FAIR AND GET THROUGH A HEAT
WAVE, FOR EXAMPLE.
>> WELL, SPEAKING OF GETTING
THROUGH A HEAT WAVE, THERE'S
ALSO THE ADDITIONAL CHALLENGE,
AS I MENTIONED IN THE INTRO, OF
HURRICANE SEASON, WHICH WE
UNDERSTAND IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN
INCREDIBLY ACTIVE ONE THIS YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF NEWS
THAT'S GOING TO GIVE ANYONE WHO
LIVES ALONG THE COAST A LEVEL OF
ANXIETY.
>> YEAH, IT'S -- AND YOU
MENTIONED THIS IN YOUR OPEN.
YOU KNOW, NOAA IS PREDICTING A
MORE SEVERE HURRICANE SEASON
THIS YEAR.
WE SHOULD JUST GET USED TO THAT.
ALL THE CLIMATE MODELS SAY THE
EXPECTATION IS HURRICANE SEASON
IS GROWING.
WE'RE SEEING HURRICANES EARLIER
IN THE SEASON.
WE'RE SEEING HURRICANES LATER IN
THE SEASON.
IT'S JUST LIKE WILDFIRES OUT
WEST.
THERE'S ALMOST NO WILDFIRE
SEASON ANYMORE.
THEY'RE JUST COMING ALL THE
TIME.
HURRICANES WON'T COME YEAR
ROUND, BUT THE SEASON'S LONGER
AND THEY'RE GETTING MORE
INTENSE.
THIS IS THE TENTH ANNIVERSARY OF
HURRICANE SANDY, AND THERE ARE
THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
THERE ARE INVESTMENTS BEING MADE
AROUND THE CITY, AND WE'RE
SEEING CHANGE, BUT WE NEED TO
PICK UP THE PACE.
WE NEED TO DO MORE.
SO BACK TO THE URBAN FOREST AND
THE TREE CANOPY, YOU KNOW, TO
ADD THOSE 2 MILLION TREES,
THAT'S ABOUT A BILLION DOLLAR
INVESTMENT.
THE GOAL IS TO GET TO 30% CANOPY
COVER BY 2035.
WE NEED TO BE MAKING THE
INVESTMENTS NOW AS A CITY IN
ORDER TO WITHSTAND THE EFFECTS
OF THESE HEAT WAVES AND
HURRICANES THAT ARE ALL COMING
IN OUR FUTURE.
>> OF COURSE, AND WHAT ABOUT
ALSO THE BERMS THAT WERE TALKED
ABOUT SO MUCH AFTER SANDY?
BECAUSE OF COURSE THERE'S THE
WIND AND THE RAIN, BUT IT'S
REALLY THE SEA SURGE FROM A
HURRICANE THAT'S REALLY THE
PROBLEM.
>> WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY ALL OF
THE ABOVE.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE THING, IN A
CLIMATE CHANGING WORLD.
WE HAD HENRI AND IDA LAST AUGUST
THAT DROPPED RECORD BREAKING
RAINFALL IN A WEEK, AND THAT ALL
CAME STRAIGHT FROM THE SKY.
YOUR POINT IS A GOOD ONE.
HURRICANE SANDY, WHICH WAS ABOUT
THE TIDES AND WIND AND CURRENTS,
AND IT JUST PUSHED THAT MASSIVE
VOLUME OF WATER INTO THE CITY.
AND IT'S TOUGH.
I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, THERE
ARE GOING TO BE TRADEOFFS.
IT'S NOT -- THE PATH TO
MITIGATING CLIMATE CHANGE AND
BETTER ADAPTING IS NOT GOING TO
BE EASY.
WE HAVE TO BE VERY COMMITTED.
AND THERE WILL BE TRADEOFFS.
I WAS JUST RIDING MY BACK LAST
WEEKEND ALONG THAT EAST SIDE AND
STARTING TO SEE THE BEGINNINGS
OF THE BERM CONSTRUCTION, AND
IT'S VERY DIVIDED.
SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY EXCITED AND
APPRECIATIVE THAT'S COMING AND
SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY UPSET.
I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS A ROBUST
PROCESS TO ALLOW THE VOICES AND
BEST IDEAS TO GET IN THERE, BUT
WE'RE NOT -- UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE
NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE
EVERYONE HAPPY ALL THE TIME AS
WE MAKE TOUGH CHOICES TO PROMOTE
THE RESILIENCE IN THIS CITY,
WHICH WE SO DESPERATELY NEED.
>> BILL, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 30
SECONDS LEFT.
FOLLOWING THE DECISIONS THAT OUR
GOVERNMENT AT FEDERAL, STATE,
AND LOCAL LEVEL ARE MAKING BUT
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUAL
THINGS WE CAN EACH BE DOING TO
ENSURE WE HAVE A HEALTHY CITY
IN.
>> NUMBER ONE IS VOTE.
WE'VE GOT A CRAZY PRIMARY SEASON
COMING UP IN NEW YORK, BUT WHEN
ALL THAT DUST SETTLES IN
NOVEMBER ON ELECTION DAY, THERE
IS A $4.2 BILLION BOND ACT, THE
CLEAN WATER, CLEAN AIR, GREEN
JOBS BOND ACT.
WE NEED THAT.
EVERYBODY SHOULD FLIP THEIR
BALLOT OVER AND VOTE YES ON
THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, TALK
ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE WITH YOUR
NEIGHBORS, WITH YOUR FAMILY.
WHAT ARE THE THINGS YOU CARE
ABOUT?
WHAT ARE THE STEPS WE CAN ALL BE
MAKING AND BE READY THE DO YOUR
PART IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN?
LASTLY, KEEP THE THINGS IN YOUR
DAILY LIFE, LIKE RIDING PUBLIC
TRANSIT, COMPOST -- ALL THESE
LITTLE THINGS THAT ADD UP TO
MARKET SIGNALS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, NEW
YORK NEEDS A MASSIVE CAPITAL
INVESTMENT IN CLIMATE
MITIGATION, AND THE BOND ACT
WILL BRING THAT, SO I ENCOURAGE
EVERYONE TO VOTE YES ON ELECTION
DAY FOR THE BOND ACT.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, ON THAT NOTE
WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT.
THANK YOU, BILL OLFELDER.
BILL IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
FOR THE NATURE CONSERVANCY IN
NEW YORK.
BILL, ALWAYS GREAT TO TALK TO
YOU.
>> THANKS, JANA.
IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC AND
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.