Early voters in crucial swing states are already experiencing intimidation, and the Justice Department is warning of heightened threats against election workers. Award-winning investigative journalist Linda So talks to Hari Sreenivasan about the seriousness of this danger to American democracy.
>>> NOW, AS WE MENTIONED,
POLITICIANS AREN'T THE ONLY ONES
UNDER THREAT.
ALREADY IN EARLY VOTING PEOPLE
ARE BEING INTIMIDATED IN CRUCIAL
SWING STATES AND THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT IS WARNING OF
HEIGHTENED THREATS AGAINST
ELECTION WORKERS, TOO.
AWARD-WINNING INVESTIGATIVE
JOURNALIST LINDA SO.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
US.
FOR MORE THAN A YEAR NOW WORKING
AT REUTERS YOU HAVE BEEN
CHRONICLING THE TYPES OF OF
THREATS AND HARASSMENT ELECTION
WORKERS ARE GOING THROUGH.
GIVE THE AUDIENCE AN IDEA WHAT
PEOPLE WORKING IN THESE OFFICES
AROUND THE UNITED STATES ARE
EXPERIENCING.
>> IT BECAME CLEAR AFTER THE
2020 ELECTION TRUMP'S BASELESS
VOTER FRAUD CLAIMS WERE HAVING A
REAL LIFE CONSEQUENCE ON
AMERICA'S POLITICAL SYSTEM,
PARTICULARLY ELECTION WORKERS
WHO WERE FACING AN UNPRECEDENTED
WAVE OF THREATS AND HARASSMENT.
THEY AND THEIR FAMILIES WERE
RECEIVING THREATS SO SEVERE THAT
IN SOME CASES PEOPLE HAD TO
LEAVE THEIR HOMES AND GO INTO
HIDING.
WE TALKED TO ELECTION OFFICIALS
IN MANY STATES AND COLLECTED
MANY THREATS AND HARASSING
MESSAGES THEY RECEIVED AND HAVE
SINCE COMPILED CLOSE TO A
THOUSAND INTIMIDATING MESSAGES,
MORE THAN A HUNDRED THAT COULD
WARRANT PROSECUTION.
>> ONE OF THE STORIES THAT
GRABBED SOME HEADLINES WAS OF
TWO ELECTION WORKERS, A MOTHER
AND DAUGHTER.
TELL US ABOUT THEM.
>> MY COLLEAGUE AND I WILL NEVER
FORGET INTERVIEWING A MOTHER AND
DAUGHTER IN GEORGIA.
BOTH ELECTION WORKERS.
THEIR NAMES ARE RUBY FREEMAN AND
SHAY MOSS.
THEY RECENTLY TESTIFIED AT THE
CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE
INVESTIGATING THE JANUARY 6th
INSURRECTION AT THE U.S.
CAPITOL.
THESE WOMEN'S LIVES WERE
LITERALLY UP ENDED BECAUSE THEY
WERE SINGLED OUT BY TRUMP AND
HIS CAMPAIGN AND DEMONIZED.
BASICALLY THEY WERE ACCUSED OF
COUNTING FRAUDULENT BALLOTS,
PULLING THEM FROM SUITCASES AND
COUNTING FAKE BALLOTS TO TIP THE
ELECTION FOR BIDEN IN GEORGIA.
AS A RESULT, THEY BEGAN
RECEIVING HUNDREDS OF DEATH
THREATS, RACIST TAUNTS, THREATS
OF LYNCHING, THE DAUGHTER IS A
SINGLE MOTHER AND SHE WAS
EARNING JUST $36,000 A JOB DOING
THE WORK OF ELECTIONS.
AND SHE BECAME A TARGET OF THESE
THREATS.
I REMEMBER HER TELLING US THAT
SHE LOVED HER JOB.
SHE LOOKED FORWARD TO GOING INTO
WORK EVERY DAY.
ANSWERING PHONE CALLS FROM
PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE PROCESS.
SHE SAID HOW SHE WOULD TUCK HER
BUSINESS CARD INTO EACH ENVELOPE
OF VOTER APPLICATIONS THAT SHE
WOULD SEND OUT AND SHE WOULD
WRITE HANDWRITTEN MESSAGES ON
THESE BUSINESS CARDS ENCOURAGING
VOTERS TO CALL HER IF THEY HAD
ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU KNOW, AS A BLACK WOMAN
GROWING UP IN THE SOUTH IT MEANT
SOMETHING TO HER TO HELP THESE
PEOPLE EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO
VOTE.
WHEN THESE THREATS BEGAN ALL
THAT CHANGED.
SHE SAID SHE STARTED HAVING
PANIC ATTACKS WHENEVER HER PHONE
WOULD RING.
SHE WOULDN'T WANT TO LEAVE HER
CUBICLE AT WORK.
STRANGERS ACTUALLY GOT AHOLD OF
HER TEENAGE CELL -- HER TEENAGE
SON'S CELL PHONE AND BEGAN
CALLING HIM AND THREATENING HIM
AND SHE REMEMBERS ONE MESSAGE
THAT BASICALLY SAID, BE GLAD
IT'S 2020 AND NOT 1920 BECAUSE
YOU WOULD BE HANGING ALONG WITH
YOUR MOTHER.
SHE SUFFERED A MENTAL BREAKDOWN
AND WAS TERRIFIED TO LEAVE HER
HOME.
HER MOTHER RUBY FREEMAN WHO ALSO
VOLUNTEERED TO COUNT BALLOTS IN
GEORGIA ON ELECTION DAY DURING
THE 2020 ELECTION, SHE, TOO,
STARTED GETTING HUNDREDS OF
DEATH THREATS, SOME CALLED FOR
HER EXECUTION, THERE WAS ONE
MESSAGE THAT SAID THAT SHE
SHOULD BE SUICIDED WITH TWO
BULLETS TO THE BACK OF HER HEAD.
STRANGERS SHOWED UP AT HER HOUSE
AND BEGAN HARASSING HER.
ULTIMATELY FORCING HER TO LEAVE
HER HOME AND GO INTO HIDING FOR
NEARLY TWO MONTHS.
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE
IT SEEMS THAT ARE COMMITTED TO
THIS JOB.
THEY'RE NOT DOING IT FOR THE
MONEY.
>> THEY CERTAINLY AREN'T DOING
IT FOR THE MONEY.
THESE PEOPLE WHEN WE TALK TO
THEM A COMMON THEME IS THAT THEY
SAY THEY DO THIS WORK BECAUSE
THEY LOVE IT.
THEY FIND IT THEIR CIVIC DUTY.
OFTENTIMES WHEN RUNNING THESE
ELECTIONS, PARTICULARLY AS YOU
GET CLOSER TO AN ELECTION, THERE
IS A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO
BE DONE.
SOMETIMES THEY'RE CLOCKING 70,
80 HOURS, WORKING THROUGH
WEEKENDS, UNABLE TO GO HOME AND
SEE THEIR FAMILIES.
THEY'RE REALLY SACRIFICING A LOT
OF TIME AND ENERGY.
AGAIN, THEY AREN'T GETTING PAID
A LOT OF MONEY BUT THESE PEOPLE
SAY THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY LOVE
THE WORK.
>> YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FACTS
THAT CAME OUT FROM YOUR
REPORTING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS
REUTERS IDENTIFIED 44 COUNTIES
IN 15 STATES WHERE LOCAL
OFFICIALS FACED EFFORTS TO
CHANGE RULES ON VOTING SINCE THE
2020 ELECTION.
TEN OF NEVADA'S 17 COUNTIES HAVE
SEEN THEIR TOP ELECTION OFFICIAL
RESIGN AND YOU ALSO GO IN YOUR
REPORTING TO OTHER STATES.
IN PENNSYLVANIA MORE THAN 50
COUNTY ELECTION DIRECTORS OR
ASSISTANT DIRECTORS HAVE LEFT
SINCE THE 2020 VOTE.
YOU KNOW, YOU GO ACROSS THE
COUNTRY REALLY.
IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND SO MANY
OTHER PLACES.
I WONDER, A LOT OF THESE
THREATS, THE FBI SAID THAT
SEVERAL, A LARGE PERCENTAGE, 60%
OR PLUS HAVE BEEN TARGETED
AROUND WHAT WE CONSIDER
BATTLEGROUND STATES.
IS THAT WHAT YOU FOUND IN YOUR
REPORTING?
>> WE DID.
WHEN WE FIRST SOUGHT OUT TO
INVESTIGATE THESE THREATS
AGAINST ELECTION WORKERS WE
REALLY FOCUSED ON THE
BATTLEGROUND STATES BECAUSE A
LOT OF TIMES WE FOUND ELECTION
OFFICIALS THERE WERE BEING
TARGETED AND ACCUSED OF
COMMITTING VOTER FRAUD, SIMPLY
BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE THE
OUTCOME OF THE 2020 ELECTION.
SO WHEN WE SPOKE TO ELECTION
OFFICIALS IN THESE BATTLEGROUND
STATES SOME OF THEM WERE REALLY
RECEIVING HORRIFIC THREATS.
I RECALL SPEAKING TO THE WIFE OF
GEORGIA'S SECRETARY OF STATE
BRAD RAFFENSPERGER MONTHS AFTER
THE ELECTION.
SHE, AS THE WIFE, EVEN THOUGH
SHE WASN'T THE ELECTED OFFICIAL,
SHE WAS RECEIVING HARROWING
THREATS.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD TEXT HER
AND TELL HER THAT THEY WERE
PRAYING THAT SHE AND HER FAMILY
WOULD DIE.
JUST HORRIFIC THREATS.
I REMEMBER HER GETTING
PARTICULARLY EMOTIONAL WHEN SHE
RECOUNTED ONE INCIDENT THAT
INVOLVED HER WIDOWED
DAUGHTER-IN-LAW.
AFTER THE ELECTION, AFTER THE
2020 ELECTION, SOMEONE HAD
BROKEN INTO HER WIDOWED
DAUGHTER-IN-LAW'S HOME AND
TURNED ON ALL THE LIGHTS, MOVED
ITEMS AROUND THE HOME, OPENED
ALL THE DOORS, AND THEY DIDN'T
TAKE ANYTHING.
AND THE FAMILY CONSIDERED IT AN
ACT OF INTIMIDATION.
SO AFTER THAT HAPPENED, THAT
SAME DAY, THERE WERE SOME
OATHKEEPERS SPOTTED OUTSIDE THE
RAFFENSPERGERS' HOME AND IT
FORCED THE FAMILY TO GO INTO
HIDING.
>> THIS IS NOT JUST TARGETING
PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE OF THE
OPPOSITE PARTY.
I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL ELECTION
WORKERS ARE OFTEN NOT PARTISAN
AND NEITHER ARE THE VOLUNTEERS,
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BRAD
RAFFENSPERGER, WHO IS A
REPUBLICAN.
AND HE IS PROUD OF IT.
SO THE TARGETS ARE JUST PEOPLE
WHO ARE IN POSITIONS OF POWER
NOT NECESSARILY IF THEY VOTED
FOR JOE BIDEN OR NOT.
>> RIGHT.
WHAT WE'RE ALSO SEEING IS THAT
THERE WAS FRAUD, AND THEY DON'T
LIKE THE OUTCOME OF THE
ELECTION, THEN THEY WILL START
ACCUSING THESE OFFICIALS NO
MATTER WHAT THEIR PARTY
AFFILIATION, IF THEY'RE
REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT.
IF THEY SIMPLY WERE UNHAPPY WITH
THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION IN
THAT PARTICULAR STATE, WE HAVE
SEEN THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TARGETS
OF THREATS.
>> IN THE PAST WEEK WE'VE ALSO
SEEN HEADLINES COME OUT OF
ARIZONA OF POLL WATCHERS TAKING
PICTURES OF PEOPLE CASTING THEIR
VOTES AT DROP BOXES, WHO HAVE
ALSO SEEN VIDEO OF MEN WITH LONG
GUNS STANDING VERY CLOSE BY.
TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN ARIZONA.
>> SOME OF THE CLERKS WE TALKED
TO NOT ONLY IN ARIZONA BUT OTHER
STATES WHERE THIS HAPPENED
DURING THE PRIMARY, THEIR MAIN
CONCERN IS THESE VOTERS WILL BE
INTIMIDATED.
WE TRACKED AND LEARNED OF
ELECTION DENYING GROUPS THAT
HAVE BEEN TRAINING AN ARMY OF
ELECTION OBSERVERS WHO WOULD GO
OUT DURING THE MIDTERMS AND THE
PRIMARIES THAT HAPPENED EARLIER
THIS YEAR TO DO VARIOUS THINGS
THAT SOME VOTERS AND CLERKS
CONSIDER INTIMIDATING.
FOR INSTANCE, IN COLORADO WE
SPOKE WITH AN ELECTION CLERK
THERE WHO SAID THAT DURING A
RECOUNT OF VOTES, THERE WAS AN
AGGRESSIVE GROUP OF PROTESTERS
WHO ACTUALLY TURNED OUT TO THE
ELECTION BUILDING AND OUTSIDE
THEY WERE HOLDING PROTESTS
CHANTING THINGS LIKE STOP THE
STEAL AND THAT VOTING MACHINES
ARE CORRUPT.
INSIDE THE BUILDING AS THESE
ELECTION WORKERS WERE RECOUNTING
THE VOTES, AN AGGRESSIVE GROUP
WAS POUNDING ON THE WINDOWS.
THEY WERE RECORDING THE WORKERS
WITH THEIR CELL PHONES AND
SHOUTING ANGRILY AT THEM.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY A GROUP IN
THE HALLWAY THAT COULD BE HEARD
PRAYING FOR EVIL TO DESCEND ON
THE ELECTION TEAM.
EXTRA SECURITY WAS ON HAND TO
ESCORT ELECTION WORKERS WHO WERE
FEARING FOR THEIR SAFETY OUT TO
THEIR CARS.
YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF ELECTION
CLERK THERE TOLD US HE HAS BEEN
DOING THIS WORK FOR A VERY LONG
TIME, BUT HE HAS NEVER SEEN
ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
>> IN YOUR REPORTING, A LOT OF
THESE THREATS ARE MADE
ANONYMOUSLY.
YOU TOOK THAT ADDITIONAL STEP OF
TRYING TO GO THROUGH AND UNMASK
SOME OF THESE FOLKS.
WHEN YOU FINALLY REACHED SOME OF
THE PEOPLE THAT WERE MAKING
THESE THREATS AND DOING THIS
SORT OF HARASSMENT, WHAT DID
THEY HAVE TO SAY?
>> MOST OF THESE PEOPLE
CONSIDERED THEMSELVES PATRIOTS.
THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE
FIGHTING A RIGHTEOUS FIGHT TO
UPHOLD ELECTIONS IN AMERICA
BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT THE 2020
ELECTION WAS STOLEN FROM TRUMP.
MANY OF THEM WERE HEAVY
CONSUMERS OF MISINFORMATION AND
SOME OF THEM TOLD US THAT THEY
WERE ACTUALLY PREPARING FOR
CIVIL WAR.
THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE DIRECTION
THIS COUNTRY WAS TAKING, IS
TAKING, AND THEY FEEL IF
SOMETHING ISN'T DONE NOW THAT
FUTURE ELECTIONS WILL CONTINUE
TO BE STOLEN.
WE SPOKE WITH ONE INDIVIDUAL
FROM VERMONT WHO CONSUMED A LOT
OF MISINFORMATION.
AND HE WAS SO THOROUGHLY
CONVINCE THAD 2020 WAS STOLEN HE
FELT IT WAS HIS DUTY TO CALL UP
THE VERMONT SECRETARY OF STATE'S
OFFICE AND LEAVE A SERIES OF
THREATENING VOICE MAILS.
ULTIMATELY WHEN WE REACHED OUT
TO HIM AND UNCOVERED HIS
IDENTITY HE BEGAN THREATENING US
>> I WONDER SINCE YOU BEGAN YOUR
REPORTING AND PUBLISHING YOUR
WORK I KNOW THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT HAD SET UP AN
ELECTIONS THREAT TASK FORCE.
WHAT HAS COME OF IT?
ESPECIALLY IN THE INSTANCES
WHERE YOU HAVE DOCUMENTED THE
SPECIFIC HARASSMENT THAT IS
PROSECUTABLE?
HAVE THOSE PEOPLE BEEN BROUGHT
TO JUSTICE?
>> OUR REPORTING DID LEAD TO THE
ARREST OF ONE MAN, AND WE DO
KNOW THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
SAYS THAT IT TAKES ALL THREATS
OF VIOLENCE SERIOUSLY.
SO FAR SINCE THE CREATION OF
THAT TASK FORCE LAST SUMMER,
INVESTIGATING THREATS AGAINST
ELECTION WORKERS, AT LEAST SEVEN
INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN CHARGED.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SPEAK WITH
ELECTION OFFICIALS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY THEY TELL US THEY'RE
FRUSTRATED THAT MORE HASN'T BEEN
DONE.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAYS THAT
THEY ARE INVESTIGATING BUT
OFTENTIMES THESE THREATS, THESE
MESSAGES DON'T CROSS THE LINE
INTO CRIMINALITY.
THEY'RE PROTECTED BY FREE
SPEECH.
SO IN SOME CASES, THESE THREATS
CAN'T BE PROSECUTED.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ALSO
TELLS US IT TAKES TIME TO BUILD
THESE CASES.
>> WHAT ARE STATES OR LOCALITIES
DOING TO TRY AND COMBAT THIS?
I KNOW I'VE HEARD OF LIKE A TEXT
LINE OR CALL LINE FROM DIFFERENT
STATES IF PEOPLE SEE A
HARASSMENT OR INTIMIDATION BUT
IS THERE ANY KIND OF A CONCERTED
EFFORT?
>> YEAH.
MANY ELECTION OFFICIALS SAY THE
NUMBER ONE THING THEY STRESS IS
TRANSPARENCY AND SO THEY REALLY
TRY TO OPEN UP THE PROCESS TO
THE PUBLIC.
THEY'LL HOLD PUBLIC MEETINGS
WHERE THEY INVITE THE PUBLIC TO
COME IN TO WATCH AS THEY NONE
STRAIT HOW THESE VOTING MACHINES
WORK.
YOU KNOW, THEY'LL ALSO VISIT
TOWN HALLS IF THEY'RE INVITED
WILL GO AND SPEAK TO THESE
GROUPS AND INFORM THEM ON THE
VOTING PROCESS.
THERE IS ONE ELECTION DIRECTOR
IN GEORGIA THAT I SPOKE WITH WHO
ACTUALLY SAID HE DOESN'T MIND
HANDING OUT HIS CELL PHONE
NUMBER FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT HAVE
A QUESTION.
HE SAYS THAT HE ANSWERS THEIR
CALLS, SPEAKS TO THEM, REALLY
TRIES TO TALK THEM THROUGH THE
PROCESS.
AND IN SOME CASES, IT HELPS.
IN OTHER CASES HE HAS MENTIONED
SOME PEOPLE JUST CALL AND THEY
ALREADY HAVE THEIR MINDS MADE UP
SO THERE IS REALLY NOT MUCH YOU
CAN DO.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT YOUR
REPORTING AND YOU SEE THE NUMBER
OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE SPOKEN
TO WHO HAVE LEFT THEIR JOBS
PROBABLY EARLIER THAN THEY
WANTED TO, WHAT IS AT STAKE
HERE?
WHAT ARE WE LOSING WHEN IT COMES
TO AN ELECTION WORKER THAT MIGHT
HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 15, 20
YEARS?
>> THE CONCERN IS THAT THERE IS
A REAL LOSS OF INSTITUTIONAL
KNOWLEDGE.
DECADES OF INSTITUTIONAL
KNOWLEDGE THAT'S BEING LOST WHEN
THESE VETERAN ELECTION OFFICIALS
LEAVE THEIR POSTS.
RUNNING ELECTIONS IS A
COMPLICATED TASK.
AND TO DO IT EFFICIENTLY AND
SMOOTHLY YOU NEED EXPERIENCE AND
EXPERTISE.
A LOT OF THESE ELECTION WORKERS
AS YOU SAID HAVE BEEN DOING IT
FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THEY LEARN THE INS AND OUTS OF
RUNNING AN ELECTION.
WITH THEM LEAVING, THERE IS A
REAL CONCERN THAT IT'S LEAVING A
VOID.
AND THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH YOU
CAN DO TO TRAIN SOMEBODY IN AN
HOUR-LONG SESSION OR A WEEKLY
SESSION TO REALLY BRING THEM UP
TO SPEED ON RUNNING THESE
ELECTIONS SMOOTHLY.
>> ARE THEY BEING REPLACED, AND
IS IT PART OF KIND OF A NATIONAL
OR PRECINCT STRATEGY AS YOU
SAID, TO REPLACE SOME OF THESE
INDIVIDUALS WITH PEOPLE WHO
STILL FEEL THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS
ROBBED OF THE RESULTS?
>> THERE IS A CONCERN OF THAT
HAPPENING.
IN FACT, WE SEE IN SEVERAL KEY
BATTLEGROUND STATES CANDIDATES
WHO BELIEVE THE 2020 ELECTION
WAS STOLEN ARE RUNNING FOR
SECRETARY OF STATE AND AGAIN
THESE POSITIONS, YOU KNOW, THEY
ARE THE TOP ELECTION OFFICIAL IN
THAT STATE.
AND THEY OVERSEE HOW ELECTIONS
ARE RUN, HOW VOTES ARE CAST AND
COUNTED AND CERTIFIED.
SOME OF THESE CANDIDATES HAD
SAID THAT IF THEY ARE ELECTED
THEY'LL CHANGE THE WAY THEIR
STATE VOTES.
THEY'LL GET RID OF ELECTRONIC
VOTING MACHINES BECAUSE THEY
FEEL THEY'RE CORRUPT.
OR THEY WILL STRICTLY GO TO HAND
COUNTING OF BALLOTS.
AGAIN, THERE IS THAT CONCERN AND
ALSO A CONCERN THAT THEY CAN
HAVE SIGNIFICANT POWER TO DECIDE
WHETHER TO CERTIFY ELECTION
RESULTS.
THAT ARE VALID.
AND, IN FACT, WE SAW THAT HAPPEN
ON A SMALLER SCALE IN A RURAL
COUNTY IN NEVADA.
THIS IS A PRO TRUMP COUNTY WHERE
THE LOCAL COMMISSION, LOCAL
LEADERS REFUSED TO CERTIFY THE
JUNE PRIMARY RESULTS OVER
UNFOUNDED FEARS OF VOTER FRAUD
SO THE SECRETARY OF STATE HAD TO
STEP IN AND ASK THE STATE
SUPREME COURT TO HAVE THAT
COUNTY CERTIFY THE VOTES, WHICH
THEY EVENTUALLY DID.
>> ARE THERE STRANGE BED FELLOWS
HERE IN WHO IS DOING THE
HARASSING AND INTIMIDATION?
WE'VE CERTAINLY HEARD ABOUT
PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTERS OF THE
FORMER PRESIDENT DOING THIS.
IS THERE ANY KIND OF FAR LEFT
ELEMENT OR DEMOCRATS INVOLVED IN
ANY OF THIS INTIMIDATION?
>> WHEN WE COMPILED THESE
THREATS IN MORE THAN A DOZEN
BATTLEGROUND STATES, WHAT WE
FOUND WAS MOSTLY ALL OF THEM
WERE COMING FROM PEOPLE WHO
BELIEVE THAT THE 2020 ELECTION
WAS STOLEN.
AGAIN, THEY WERE CONSUMING HEAVY
AMOUNTS OF MISINFORMATION.
AND SO WHEN WE WOULD TALK TO
THESE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE,
OFTENTIMES THEY WERE VERY
PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR VIEWS.
WHEN WE WOULD TRY TO EXPLAIN TO
THEM, GIVE THEM THE FACTS OF
WHAT HAPPENED, MANY OF THEM JUST
REFUSED TO HEAR IT.
AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNTS OF
MISINFORMATION THAT THEY WERE
CONSUMING.
AND THIS IS THE CHALLENGE FOR
ELECTION OFFICIALS AS WELL.
THEY FEEL THEY ARE COMBATTING
SOMETHING THAT IS SO PERVASIVE
AND PREVALENT AMONG PEOPLE WHO
BELIEVE THE 2020 ELECTION WAS
STOLEN.
IT'S REALLY HARD FOR THEM TO
FIGHT AGAINST THIS.
>> LINDA SO OF REUTERS THANKS SO
MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.