The Trump World’s Assault on U.S. Election Workers

Early voters in crucial swing states are already experiencing intimidation, and the Justice Department is warning of heightened threats against election workers. Award-winning investigative journalist Linda So talks to Hari Sreenivasan about the seriousness of this danger to American democracy.

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>>> NOW, AS WE MENTIONED,

POLITICIANS AREN'T THE ONLY ONES

UNDER THREAT.

ALREADY IN EARLY VOTING PEOPLE

ARE BEING INTIMIDATED IN CRUCIAL

SWING STATES AND THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT IS WARNING OF

HEIGHTENED THREATS AGAINST

ELECTION WORKERS, TOO.

AWARD-WINNING INVESTIGATIVE

JOURNALIST LINDA SO.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING

US.

FOR MORE THAN A YEAR NOW WORKING

AT REUTERS YOU HAVE BEEN

CHRONICLING THE TYPES OF OF

THREATS AND HARASSMENT ELECTION

WORKERS ARE GOING THROUGH.

GIVE THE AUDIENCE AN IDEA WHAT

PEOPLE WORKING IN THESE OFFICES

AROUND THE UNITED STATES ARE

EXPERIENCING.

>> IT BECAME CLEAR AFTER THE

2020 ELECTION TRUMP'S BASELESS

VOTER FRAUD CLAIMS WERE HAVING A

REAL LIFE CONSEQUENCE ON

AMERICA'S POLITICAL SYSTEM,

PARTICULARLY ELECTION WORKERS

WHO WERE FACING AN UNPRECEDENTED

WAVE OF THREATS AND HARASSMENT.

THEY AND THEIR FAMILIES WERE

RECEIVING THREATS SO SEVERE THAT

IN SOME CASES PEOPLE HAD TO

LEAVE THEIR HOMES AND GO INTO

HIDING.

WE TALKED TO ELECTION OFFICIALS

IN MANY STATES AND COLLECTED

MANY THREATS AND HARASSING

MESSAGES THEY RECEIVED AND HAVE

SINCE COMPILED CLOSE TO A

THOUSAND INTIMIDATING MESSAGES,

MORE THAN A HUNDRED THAT COULD

WARRANT PROSECUTION.

>> ONE OF THE STORIES THAT

GRABBED SOME HEADLINES WAS OF

TWO ELECTION WORKERS, A MOTHER

AND DAUGHTER.

TELL US ABOUT THEM.

>> MY COLLEAGUE AND I WILL NEVER

FORGET INTERVIEWING A MOTHER AND

DAUGHTER IN GEORGIA.

BOTH ELECTION WORKERS.

THEIR NAMES ARE RUBY FREEMAN AND

SHAY MOSS.

THEY RECENTLY TESTIFIED AT THE

CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE

INVESTIGATING THE JANUARY 6th

INSURRECTION AT THE U.S.

CAPITOL.

THESE WOMEN'S LIVES WERE

LITERALLY UP ENDED BECAUSE THEY

WERE SINGLED OUT BY TRUMP AND

HIS CAMPAIGN AND DEMONIZED.

BASICALLY THEY WERE ACCUSED OF

COUNTING FRAUDULENT BALLOTS,

PULLING THEM FROM SUITCASES AND

COUNTING FAKE BALLOTS TO TIP THE

ELECTION FOR BIDEN IN GEORGIA.

AS A RESULT, THEY BEGAN

RECEIVING HUNDREDS OF DEATH

THREATS, RACIST TAUNTS, THREATS

OF LYNCHING, THE DAUGHTER IS A

SINGLE MOTHER AND SHE WAS

EARNING JUST $36,000 A JOB DOING

THE WORK OF ELECTIONS.

AND SHE BECAME A TARGET OF THESE

THREATS.

I REMEMBER HER TELLING US THAT

SHE LOVED HER JOB.

SHE LOOKED FORWARD TO GOING INTO

WORK EVERY DAY.

ANSWERING PHONE CALLS FROM

PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS

ABOUT THE PROCESS.

SHE SAID HOW SHE WOULD TUCK HER

BUSINESS CARD INTO EACH ENVELOPE

OF VOTER APPLICATIONS THAT SHE

WOULD SEND OUT AND SHE WOULD

WRITE HANDWRITTEN MESSAGES ON

THESE BUSINESS CARDS ENCOURAGING

VOTERS TO CALL HER IF THEY HAD

ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU KNOW, AS A BLACK WOMAN

GROWING UP IN THE SOUTH IT MEANT

SOMETHING TO HER TO HELP THESE

PEOPLE EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO

VOTE.

WHEN THESE THREATS BEGAN ALL

THAT CHANGED.

SHE SAID SHE STARTED HAVING

PANIC ATTACKS WHENEVER HER PHONE

WOULD RING.

SHE WOULDN'T WANT TO LEAVE HER

CUBICLE AT WORK.

STRANGERS ACTUALLY GOT AHOLD OF

HER TEENAGE CELL -- HER TEENAGE

SON'S CELL PHONE AND BEGAN

CALLING HIM AND THREATENING HIM

AND SHE REMEMBERS ONE MESSAGE

THAT BASICALLY SAID, BE GLAD

IT'S 2020 AND NOT 1920 BECAUSE

YOU WOULD BE HANGING ALONG WITH

YOUR MOTHER.

SHE SUFFERED A MENTAL BREAKDOWN

AND WAS TERRIFIED TO LEAVE HER

HOME.

HER MOTHER RUBY FREEMAN WHO ALSO

VOLUNTEERED TO COUNT BALLOTS IN

GEORGIA ON ELECTION DAY DURING

THE 2020 ELECTION, SHE, TOO,

STARTED GETTING HUNDREDS OF

DEATH THREATS, SOME CALLED FOR

HER EXECUTION, THERE WAS ONE

MESSAGE THAT SAID THAT SHE

SHOULD BE SUICIDED WITH TWO

BULLETS TO THE BACK OF HER HEAD.

STRANGERS SHOWED UP AT HER HOUSE

AND BEGAN HARASSING HER.

ULTIMATELY FORCING HER TO LEAVE

HER HOME AND GO INTO HIDING FOR

NEARLY TWO MONTHS.

>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE

IT SEEMS THAT ARE COMMITTED TO

THIS JOB.

THEY'RE NOT DOING IT FOR THE

MONEY.

>> THEY CERTAINLY AREN'T DOING

IT FOR THE MONEY.

THESE PEOPLE WHEN WE TALK TO

THEM A COMMON THEME IS THAT THEY

SAY THEY DO THIS WORK BECAUSE

THEY LOVE IT.

THEY FIND IT THEIR CIVIC DUTY.

OFTENTIMES WHEN RUNNING THESE

ELECTIONS, PARTICULARLY AS YOU

GET CLOSER TO AN ELECTION, THERE

IS A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO

BE DONE.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE CLOCKING 70,

80 HOURS, WORKING THROUGH

WEEKENDS, UNABLE TO GO HOME AND

SEE THEIR FAMILIES.

THEY'RE REALLY SACRIFICING A LOT

OF TIME AND ENERGY.

AGAIN, THEY AREN'T GETTING PAID

A LOT OF MONEY BUT THESE PEOPLE

SAY THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY LOVE

THE WORK.

>> YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FACTS

THAT CAME OUT FROM YOUR

REPORTING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS

REUTERS IDENTIFIED 44 COUNTIES

IN 15 STATES WHERE LOCAL

OFFICIALS FACED EFFORTS TO

CHANGE RULES ON VOTING SINCE THE

2020 ELECTION.

TEN OF NEVADA'S 17 COUNTIES HAVE

SEEN THEIR TOP ELECTION OFFICIAL

RESIGN AND YOU ALSO GO IN YOUR

REPORTING TO OTHER STATES.

IN PENNSYLVANIA MORE THAN 50

COUNTY ELECTION DIRECTORS OR

ASSISTANT DIRECTORS HAVE LEFT

SINCE THE 2020 VOTE.

YOU KNOW, YOU GO ACROSS THE

COUNTRY REALLY.

IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND SO MANY

OTHER PLACES.

I WONDER, A LOT OF THESE

THREATS, THE FBI SAID THAT

SEVERAL, A LARGE PERCENTAGE, 60%

OR PLUS HAVE BEEN TARGETED

AROUND WHAT WE CONSIDER

BATTLEGROUND STATES.

IS THAT WHAT YOU FOUND IN YOUR

REPORTING?

>> WE DID.

WHEN WE FIRST SOUGHT OUT TO

INVESTIGATE THESE THREATS

AGAINST ELECTION WORKERS WE

REALLY FOCUSED ON THE

BATTLEGROUND STATES BECAUSE A

LOT OF TIMES WE FOUND ELECTION

OFFICIALS THERE WERE BEING

TARGETED AND ACCUSED OF

COMMITTING VOTER FRAUD, SIMPLY

BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE THE

OUTCOME OF THE 2020 ELECTION.

SO WHEN WE SPOKE TO ELECTION

OFFICIALS IN THESE BATTLEGROUND

STATES SOME OF THEM WERE REALLY

RECEIVING HORRIFIC THREATS.

I RECALL SPEAKING TO THE WIFE OF

GEORGIA'S SECRETARY OF STATE

BRAD RAFFENSPERGER MONTHS AFTER

THE ELECTION.

SHE, AS THE WIFE, EVEN THOUGH

SHE WASN'T THE ELECTED OFFICIAL,

SHE WAS RECEIVING HARROWING

THREATS.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD TEXT HER

AND TELL HER THAT THEY WERE

PRAYING THAT SHE AND HER FAMILY

WOULD DIE.

JUST HORRIFIC THREATS.

I REMEMBER HER GETTING

PARTICULARLY EMOTIONAL WHEN SHE

RECOUNTED ONE INCIDENT THAT

INVOLVED HER WIDOWED

DAUGHTER-IN-LAW.

AFTER THE ELECTION, AFTER THE

2020 ELECTION, SOMEONE HAD

BROKEN INTO HER WIDOWED

DAUGHTER-IN-LAW'S HOME AND

TURNED ON ALL THE LIGHTS, MOVED

ITEMS AROUND THE HOME, OPENED

ALL THE DOORS, AND THEY DIDN'T

TAKE ANYTHING.

AND THE FAMILY CONSIDERED IT AN

ACT OF INTIMIDATION.

SO AFTER THAT HAPPENED, THAT

SAME DAY, THERE WERE SOME

OATHKEEPERS SPOTTED OUTSIDE THE

RAFFENSPERGERS' HOME AND IT

FORCED THE FAMILY TO GO INTO

HIDING.

>> THIS IS NOT JUST TARGETING

PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE OF THE

OPPOSITE PARTY.

I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL ELECTION

WORKERS ARE OFTEN NOT PARTISAN

AND NEITHER ARE THE VOLUNTEERS,

BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BRAD

RAFFENSPERGER, WHO IS A

REPUBLICAN.

AND HE IS PROUD OF IT.

SO THE TARGETS ARE JUST PEOPLE

WHO ARE IN POSITIONS OF POWER

NOT NECESSARILY IF THEY VOTED

FOR JOE BIDEN OR NOT.

>> RIGHT.

WHAT WE'RE ALSO SEEING IS THAT

THERE WAS FRAUD, AND THEY DON'T

LIKE THE OUTCOME OF THE

ELECTION, THEN THEY WILL START

ACCUSING THESE OFFICIALS NO

MATTER WHAT THEIR PARTY

AFFILIATION, IF THEY'RE

REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT.

IF THEY SIMPLY WERE UNHAPPY WITH

THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION IN

THAT PARTICULAR STATE, WE HAVE

SEEN THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TARGETS

OF THREATS.

>> IN THE PAST WEEK WE'VE ALSO

SEEN HEADLINES COME OUT OF

ARIZONA OF POLL WATCHERS TAKING

PICTURES OF PEOPLE CASTING THEIR

VOTES AT DROP BOXES, WHO HAVE

ALSO SEEN VIDEO OF MEN WITH LONG

GUNS STANDING VERY CLOSE BY.

TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT IS

HAPPENING IN ARIZONA.

>> SOME OF THE CLERKS WE TALKED

TO NOT ONLY IN ARIZONA BUT OTHER

STATES WHERE THIS HAPPENED

DURING THE PRIMARY, THEIR MAIN

CONCERN IS THESE VOTERS WILL BE

INTIMIDATED.

WE TRACKED AND LEARNED OF

ELECTION DENYING GROUPS THAT

HAVE BEEN TRAINING AN ARMY OF

ELECTION OBSERVERS WHO WOULD GO

OUT DURING THE MIDTERMS AND THE

PRIMARIES THAT HAPPENED EARLIER

THIS YEAR TO DO VARIOUS THINGS

THAT SOME VOTERS AND CLERKS

CONSIDER INTIMIDATING.

FOR INSTANCE, IN COLORADO WE

SPOKE WITH AN ELECTION CLERK

THERE WHO SAID THAT DURING A

RECOUNT OF VOTES, THERE WAS AN

AGGRESSIVE GROUP OF PROTESTERS

WHO ACTUALLY TURNED OUT TO THE

ELECTION BUILDING AND OUTSIDE

THEY WERE HOLDING PROTESTS

CHANTING THINGS LIKE STOP THE

STEAL AND THAT VOTING MACHINES

ARE CORRUPT.

INSIDE THE BUILDING AS THESE

ELECTION WORKERS WERE RECOUNTING

THE VOTES, AN AGGRESSIVE GROUP

WAS POUNDING ON THE WINDOWS.

THEY WERE RECORDING THE WORKERS

WITH THEIR CELL PHONES AND

SHOUTING ANGRILY AT THEM.

THERE WAS ACTUALLY A GROUP IN

THE HALLWAY THAT COULD BE HEARD

PRAYING FOR EVIL TO DESCEND ON

THE ELECTION TEAM.

EXTRA SECURITY WAS ON HAND TO

ESCORT ELECTION WORKERS WHO WERE

FEARING FOR THEIR SAFETY OUT TO

THEIR CARS.

YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF ELECTION

CLERK THERE TOLD US HE HAS BEEN

DOING THIS WORK FOR A VERY LONG

TIME, BUT HE HAS NEVER SEEN

ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.

>> IN YOUR REPORTING, A LOT OF

THESE THREATS ARE MADE

ANONYMOUSLY.

YOU TOOK THAT ADDITIONAL STEP OF

TRYING TO GO THROUGH AND UNMASK

SOME OF THESE FOLKS.

WHEN YOU FINALLY REACHED SOME OF

THE PEOPLE THAT WERE MAKING

THESE THREATS AND DOING THIS

SORT OF HARASSMENT, WHAT DID

THEY HAVE TO SAY?

>> MOST OF THESE PEOPLE

CONSIDERED THEMSELVES PATRIOTS.

THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE

FIGHTING A RIGHTEOUS FIGHT TO

UPHOLD ELECTIONS IN AMERICA

BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT THE 2020

ELECTION WAS STOLEN FROM TRUMP.

MANY OF THEM WERE HEAVY

CONSUMERS OF MISINFORMATION AND

SOME OF THEM TOLD US THAT THEY

WERE ACTUALLY PREPARING FOR

CIVIL WAR.

THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE DIRECTION

THIS COUNTRY WAS TAKING, IS

TAKING, AND THEY FEEL IF

SOMETHING ISN'T DONE NOW THAT

FUTURE ELECTIONS WILL CONTINUE

TO BE STOLEN.

WE SPOKE WITH ONE INDIVIDUAL

FROM VERMONT WHO CONSUMED A LOT

OF MISINFORMATION.

AND HE WAS SO THOROUGHLY

CONVINCE THAD 2020 WAS STOLEN HE

FELT IT WAS HIS DUTY TO CALL UP

THE VERMONT SECRETARY OF STATE'S

OFFICE AND LEAVE A SERIES OF

THREATENING VOICE MAILS.

ULTIMATELY WHEN WE REACHED OUT

TO HIM AND UNCOVERED HIS

IDENTITY HE BEGAN THREATENING US

>> I WONDER SINCE YOU BEGAN YOUR

REPORTING AND PUBLISHING YOUR

WORK I KNOW THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT HAD SET UP AN

ELECTIONS THREAT TASK FORCE.

WHAT HAS COME OF IT?

ESPECIALLY IN THE INSTANCES

WHERE YOU HAVE DOCUMENTED THE

SPECIFIC HARASSMENT THAT IS

PROSECUTABLE?

HAVE THOSE PEOPLE BEEN BROUGHT

TO JUSTICE?

>> OUR REPORTING DID LEAD TO THE

ARREST OF ONE MAN, AND WE DO

KNOW THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

SAYS THAT IT TAKES ALL THREATS

OF VIOLENCE SERIOUSLY.

SO FAR SINCE THE CREATION OF

THAT TASK FORCE LAST SUMMER,

INVESTIGATING THREATS AGAINST

ELECTION WORKERS, AT LEAST SEVEN

INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN CHARGED.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SPEAK WITH

ELECTION OFFICIALS ACROSS THE

COUNTRY THEY TELL US THEY'RE

FRUSTRATED THAT MORE HASN'T BEEN

DONE.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAYS THAT

THEY ARE INVESTIGATING BUT

OFTENTIMES THESE THREATS, THESE

MESSAGES DON'T CROSS THE LINE

INTO CRIMINALITY.

THEY'RE PROTECTED BY FREE

SPEECH.

SO IN SOME CASES, THESE THREATS

CAN'T BE PROSECUTED.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ALSO

TELLS US IT TAKES TIME TO BUILD

THESE CASES.

>> WHAT ARE STATES OR LOCALITIES

DOING TO TRY AND COMBAT THIS?

I KNOW I'VE HEARD OF LIKE A TEXT

LINE OR CALL LINE FROM DIFFERENT

STATES IF PEOPLE SEE A

HARASSMENT OR INTIMIDATION BUT

IS THERE ANY KIND OF A CONCERTED

EFFORT?

>> YEAH.

MANY ELECTION OFFICIALS SAY THE

NUMBER ONE THING THEY STRESS IS

TRANSPARENCY AND SO THEY REALLY

TRY TO OPEN UP THE PROCESS TO

THE PUBLIC.

THEY'LL HOLD PUBLIC MEETINGS

WHERE THEY INVITE THE PUBLIC TO

COME IN TO WATCH AS THEY NONE

STRAIT HOW THESE VOTING MACHINES

WORK.

YOU KNOW, THEY'LL ALSO VISIT

TOWN HALLS IF THEY'RE INVITED

WILL GO AND SPEAK TO THESE

GROUPS AND INFORM THEM ON THE

VOTING PROCESS.

THERE IS ONE ELECTION DIRECTOR

IN GEORGIA THAT I SPOKE WITH WHO

ACTUALLY SAID HE DOESN'T MIND

HANDING OUT HIS CELL PHONE

NUMBER FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT HAVE

A QUESTION.

HE SAYS THAT HE ANSWERS THEIR

CALLS, SPEAKS TO THEM, REALLY

TRIES TO TALK THEM THROUGH THE

PROCESS.

AND IN SOME CASES, IT HELPS.

IN OTHER CASES HE HAS MENTIONED

SOME PEOPLE JUST CALL AND THEY

ALREADY HAVE THEIR MINDS MADE UP

SO THERE IS REALLY NOT MUCH YOU

CAN DO.

>> WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT YOUR

REPORTING AND YOU SEE THE NUMBER

OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE SPOKEN

TO WHO HAVE LEFT THEIR JOBS

PROBABLY EARLIER THAN THEY

WANTED TO, WHAT IS AT STAKE

HERE?

WHAT ARE WE LOSING WHEN IT COMES

TO AN ELECTION WORKER THAT MIGHT

HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 15, 20

YEARS?

>> THE CONCERN IS THAT THERE IS

A REAL LOSS OF INSTITUTIONAL

KNOWLEDGE.

DECADES OF INSTITUTIONAL

KNOWLEDGE THAT'S BEING LOST WHEN

THESE VETERAN ELECTION OFFICIALS

LEAVE THEIR POSTS.

RUNNING ELECTIONS IS A

COMPLICATED TASK.

AND TO DO IT EFFICIENTLY AND

SMOOTHLY YOU NEED EXPERIENCE AND

EXPERTISE.

A LOT OF THESE ELECTION WORKERS

AS YOU SAID HAVE BEEN DOING IT

FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

THEY LEARN THE INS AND OUTS OF

RUNNING AN ELECTION.

WITH THEM LEAVING, THERE IS A

REAL CONCERN THAT IT'S LEAVING A

VOID.

AND THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH YOU

CAN DO TO TRAIN SOMEBODY IN AN

HOUR-LONG SESSION OR A WEEKLY

SESSION TO REALLY BRING THEM UP

TO SPEED ON RUNNING THESE

ELECTIONS SMOOTHLY.

>> ARE THEY BEING REPLACED, AND

IS IT PART OF KIND OF A NATIONAL

OR PRECINCT STRATEGY AS YOU

SAID, TO REPLACE SOME OF THESE

INDIVIDUALS WITH PEOPLE WHO

STILL FEEL THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS

ROBBED OF THE RESULTS?

>> THERE IS A CONCERN OF THAT

HAPPENING.

IN FACT, WE SEE IN SEVERAL KEY

BATTLEGROUND STATES CANDIDATES

WHO BELIEVE THE 2020 ELECTION

WAS STOLEN ARE RUNNING FOR

SECRETARY OF STATE AND AGAIN

THESE POSITIONS, YOU KNOW, THEY

ARE THE TOP ELECTION OFFICIAL IN

THAT STATE.

AND THEY OVERSEE HOW ELECTIONS

ARE RUN, HOW VOTES ARE CAST AND

COUNTED AND CERTIFIED.

SOME OF THESE CANDIDATES HAD

SAID THAT IF THEY ARE ELECTED

THEY'LL CHANGE THE WAY THEIR

STATE VOTES.

THEY'LL GET RID OF ELECTRONIC

VOTING MACHINES BECAUSE THEY

FEEL THEY'RE CORRUPT.

OR THEY WILL STRICTLY GO TO HAND

COUNTING OF BALLOTS.

AGAIN, THERE IS THAT CONCERN AND

ALSO A CONCERN THAT THEY CAN

HAVE SIGNIFICANT POWER TO DECIDE

WHETHER TO CERTIFY ELECTION

RESULTS.

THAT ARE VALID.

AND, IN FACT, WE SAW THAT HAPPEN

ON A SMALLER SCALE IN A RURAL

COUNTY IN NEVADA.

THIS IS A PRO TRUMP COUNTY WHERE

THE LOCAL COMMISSION, LOCAL

LEADERS REFUSED TO CERTIFY THE

JUNE PRIMARY RESULTS OVER

UNFOUNDED FEARS OF VOTER FRAUD

SO THE SECRETARY OF STATE HAD TO

STEP IN AND ASK THE STATE

SUPREME COURT TO HAVE THAT

COUNTY CERTIFY THE VOTES, WHICH

THEY EVENTUALLY DID.

>> ARE THERE STRANGE BED FELLOWS

HERE IN WHO IS DOING THE

HARASSING AND INTIMIDATION?

WE'VE CERTAINLY HEARD ABOUT

PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTERS OF THE

FORMER PRESIDENT DOING THIS.

IS THERE ANY KIND OF FAR LEFT

ELEMENT OR DEMOCRATS INVOLVED IN

ANY OF THIS INTIMIDATION?

>> WHEN WE COMPILED THESE

THREATS IN MORE THAN A DOZEN

BATTLEGROUND STATES, WHAT WE

FOUND WAS MOSTLY ALL OF THEM

WERE COMING FROM PEOPLE WHO

BELIEVE THAT THE 2020 ELECTION

WAS STOLEN.

AGAIN, THEY WERE CONSUMING HEAVY

AMOUNTS OF MISINFORMATION.

AND SO WHEN WE WOULD TALK TO

THESE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE,

OFTENTIMES THEY WERE VERY

PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR VIEWS.

WHEN WE WOULD TRY TO EXPLAIN TO

THEM, GIVE THEM THE FACTS OF

WHAT HAPPENED, MANY OF THEM JUST

REFUSED TO HEAR IT.

AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNTS OF

MISINFORMATION THAT THEY WERE

CONSUMING.

AND THIS IS THE CHALLENGE FOR

ELECTION OFFICIALS AS WELL.

THEY FEEL THEY ARE COMBATTING

SOMETHING THAT IS SO PERVASIVE

AND PREVALENT AMONG PEOPLE WHO

BELIEVE THE 2020 ELECTION WAS

STOLEN.

IT'S REALLY HARD FOR THEM TO

FIGHT AGAINST THIS.

>> LINDA SO OF REUTERS THANKS SO

MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.