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BRYAN FISCHER<\/strong> (at microphone): \u201cYou are on board the USS Focal Point. It is our patrol boat. This is not a pleasure cruise. This is a patrol boat in which we patrol the choppy waters of America\u2019s public life looking for the intersection of truth and politics.\u201d<\/p>\n

LUCKY SEVERSON<\/strong>, correspondent: Bryan Fischer\u2019s program is on 125 radio stations and on television in three states. To say he represents the far right of the Christian right is probably not saying enough. But because he works for the American Family Association, a nonprofit organization, he has to be careful not to endorse or oppose a political candidate, although he\u2019s been known to push that line as far as he can.<\/p>\n

FISCHER<\/strong> (at microphone): \u201cWe have a lawless president. Ladies and gentlemen, he reminds me of a juvenile delinquent is really what he reminds me of. He\u2019s like a street thug.\u201d<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: Fischer, a former pastor, has strong views on just about everything, especially the nonprofit statute known as 501c3 of the IRS tax code that exempts churches from income and property taxes and prohibits opposing or recommending political candidates.<\/p>\n

(to Fischer): It has been said of you that you push the limit as far as you can. That you won\u2019t say go vote against Obama, but you come as close as you can.<\/p>\n

\"BryanFISCHER<\/strong>: I am just observing the bright line that the IRS has established. This is what the IRS has said, that\u2019s the bright line, and I observe that line.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: Do you think that line is unfair?<\/p>\n

FISCHER<\/strong>: Absolutely. And it\u2019s completely unconstitutional.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: That view is shared by an increasing number of pastors around the country who are joining an effort called Pulpit Freedom Sunday to challenge the IRS. Pastor Jim Garlow of the Skyline Wesleyan megachurch in La Mesa, California is one of the leaders of the movement.<\/p>\n

PASTOR JIM GARLOW<\/strong> (Lead Pastor, Skyline Wesleyan Church): We believe there should be no government intrusion in the pulpit at all. A pastor should be\u2014if he wants to endorse or oppose a candidate and that should be the right of a pastor based on the First Amendment. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion; no governmental intrusion into the pulpit.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: He says there may be as many as 2000 pastors joining Pulpit Freedom Sunday this year deliberately flaunting 501c3, by endorsing candidates from the pulpit. It\u2019s not illegal, but it could result in their loss of their tax breaks. Some pastors will send DVDs of those sermons to the IRS. But Pastor Bryan Collier of the United Methodist church in Tupelo, Mississippi, with a congregation of about 2500, won\u2019t be joining in.<\/p>\n

\"PastorPASTOR BRYAN COLLIER<\/strong> (Lead Pastor, The Orchard United Methodist Church): It\u2019s not something we\u2019re going to do, not going to participate in. We\u2019re called as the community of faith to do what we\u2019re supposed to do, and I think the status that has been afforded to us by the government is a nice bonus, but status or no status, it doesn\u2019t change what our mission is.<\/p>\n

GARLOW<\/strong>: I think it has had an alarming impact on the American pulpit. I think pastors have shied away, pastors have been hesitant, pastors aren\u2019t sure where the line is, pastors have been intimidated.<\/p>\n

COLLIER<\/strong>: We\u2019ve never really looked over our shoulder here and said we can\u2019t do or we shouldn\u2019t do this or advance that program based on some status that\u2019s assigned to us.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: Pastor Jeffery Daniel of the White Hill Missionary Baptist Church in Tupelo doesn\u2019t endorse candidates, but he does seem to be looking over his shoulder.<\/p>\n

PASTOR JEFFERY DANIEL<\/strong> (White Hill Missionary Baptist Church): I know there are some that feel a little bit bolder and will get more into actually saying we need to get behind these individuals, but I believe there are other ways to do that without creating such big problems for the church.<\/p>\n

\"PastorSEVERSON<\/strong>: Pastor James Hull of the Mount Hope Missionary Baptist Church in Taylor, Mississippi says, contrary to popular misconception, black churches that he knows of do not endorse political candidates.<\/p>\n

PASTOR JAMES HULL<\/strong> (Mount Hope Missionary Baptist Church): Probably the greatest politically oriented or inclined preacher in the history of this country, which was Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.\u2014it is a misnomer to say that black churches have endorsed political candidates. Black churches have endorsed political movements.<\/p>\n

DANIEL<\/strong>: We\u2019re a people of influence, and that\u2019s a lot of weight to carry, and to just come out and say, hey, we need to get behind this guy\u2014I don\u2019t think that\u2019s our job. What I think we\u2019re supposed to do is inform them about, you know, making sure that they do vote and that they understand what\u2019s at stake.<\/p>\n

GARLOW<\/strong>: What I will do on Pulpit Freedom Sunday is simply to outline what are some of the key biblical issues in this year\u2019s election, and then who are some of the candidates in opposition to biblical truth? Who are some of the candidates running in support of biblical truth? As a follower of Jesus Christ, I want to encourage people to vote for people who would follow biblical truth.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: Do you have any idea how many churches have been audited, how many churches have lost their nonprofit status?<\/p>\n

\"PastorGARLOW<\/strong>: There\u2019s not a single church that\u2019s lost its nonprofit status in 58 years.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: In fact, at least one church briefly lost its nonprofit status in 1992 in Binghamtomn NY after the church purchased a full page ad opposing presidential nominee Bill Clinton. It is difficult to know about audits because the IRS doesn\u2019t disclose them, but in the vast majority of cases the agency simply issues a warning. So then why is Pulpit Freedom Sunday necessary?<\/p>\n

GARLOW<\/strong>: Because an unjust law is still on the books. It is unconstitutional, many believe, and if it\u2019s unconstitutional and that law stands, it needs to be removed.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: Marcus Owens worked for the IRS for 25 years. He was the head of the Exempt Organization Division. Owens says many people don\u2019t understand that the 501c3 law was created by Congress, not the IRS.<\/p>\n

MARCUS OWENS<\/strong>: So the Congress has on at least two occasions subsequent to the enactment of 1954 of the original prohibition, reaffirmed and increased the penalty on intervention in political campaigns.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: So if these pastors got a gripe, they should take it to their congressman or congresswoman?<\/p>\n

\"MarcusOWENS<\/strong>: That\u2019s how one changes the law in a democracy, yes.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: It turns out the most likely outcome for the Pulpit Freedom Sunday movement may be only the national attention it gets. That\u2019s because the law requires that an IRS regional commissioner to authorize any church audits. Since the IRS reorganized a few years ago, there are no longer regional commissioners, so there is no one to authorize an audit, and there won\u2019t be until Congress rewrites the law.<\/p>\n

OWENS<\/strong>: That effectively shut down every IRS church investigation other than criminal investigations. The efforts by Pulpit Freedom Sunday to goad the IRS into an audit of churches simply will not occur.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: The movement at this point may be more symbolic than anything. But that doesn\u2019t diminish the conviction of those like Bryan Fisher, who see the law as an attack on their freedom of religion and speech.<\/p>\n

FISCHER<\/strong>: There would be no United States of America if America\u2019s pastors had not had the freedom from their pulpits to declare the truth as they saw it. So I think a key part of reclaiming America\u2019s future is to turn our pastors loose so they\u2019re able to declare without any hesitation boldly, as they are prompted to do, the values that they find in the scriptures.<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: Pastor Hull thinks Pulpit Freedom Sunday is a bad idea\u2014that it will do more to divide the country than to bring it together.<\/p>\n

HULL<\/strong>: This Pulpit Sunday, it\u2019s being couched in fear about what they are taking away from us\u2014they\u2019re taking away our liberties and they\u2019re taking away our country, that somehow or other there\u2019s this big boogie man who\u2019s trying to take away the country. From whom? Whose country is it?<\/p>\n

SEVERSON<\/strong>: Pulpit Freedom Sunday is scheduled take place October 7.<\/p>\n

For Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly, I\u2019m Lucky Severson in Tupelo, Mississippi.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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