{"id":13588,"date":"2013-03-15T15:20:21","date_gmt":"2013-03-15T19:20:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/?p=13588"},"modified":"2013-05-10T15:00:22","modified_gmt":"2013-05-10T19:00:22","slug":"october-26-2012-none-of-the-above-religious-implications","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2013\/03\/15\/october-26-2012-none-of-the-above-religious-implications\/13588\/","title":{"rendered":" None of the Above: Religious Implications"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- http:\/\/www-tc.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/rss\/media\/video\/episode.1608.nones.religious.implications.m4v --><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align:center\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>DEBORAH POTTER<\/strong>: On a Saturday morning at Boundless Yoga, owner and instructor Kim Weeks is in what she calls her sacred space.<\/p>\n<p><strong>KIM WEEKS<\/strong> (Owner, Boundless Yoga): I feel the universe. I feel energy. I feel mysterious forces working through my body and I see them in other people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: Weeks is among the 46 million Americans that our poll found have no religious affiliation, almost one in five. But they&#8217;re not entirely secular. About a third describe themselves as &#8220;spiritual but not religious.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>MATT FOWLER<\/strong>: Yeah, I think that&#8217;s a pretty good description. As a matter of fact I think I say that all the time. I&#8217;m spiritual but not really religious.<\/p>\n<p><strong>NANDINI GOPINADH<\/strong>: I definitely don&#8217;t call myself religious at all so I would think I am spiritual, where I believe we&#8217;re all connected in some way but I&#8217;m not religious in any way.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2012\/10\/post01-nones-religious.jpg\" alt=\"Kim Weeks\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-13597\" \/><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: Kim Weeks has come a long way from the conservative Southern Methodist church of her childhood and the religious home she grew up in.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WEEKS<\/strong>: We didn\u2019t go so far as do regular Bible readings but we weren\u2019t that far from it. I mean God was, and Jesus, were both present in our daily lives, and in daily discourse.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: Things began to change when she was 12. Her parents divorced and she started questioning the church&#8217;s teachings.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WEEKS<\/strong>: The flaw in the organized religion that I understand, and that I was raised to believe is that the answers are too quick, they\u2019re too easy. The sort of question marks I have to put over the thesis that there was a virgin birth. I mean just stuff like that, it\u2019s difficult for me to accept all those things and believe in something and stay contained inside of that belief based on the frankly veiled threat that I\u2019m going to go to hell if I don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: Religion scholar Diana Butler Bass has studied the growth of the spiritual but not religious. In her latest book, subtitled &#8220;The End of Church,&#8221; she writes that they share a deep dislike for religious institutions.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2012\/10\/post02-nones-religious.jpg\" alt=\"Diana Butler Bass\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-13598\" \/><strong>DIANA BUTLER BASS<\/strong> (Author, <em>Christianity After Religion<\/em>): I think that the main problem that people identify with religion and religious institutions is hypocrisy, is that they look at these institutions and they see people who are more concerned about politics, more concerned about money, more concerned about their own power, and that\u2019s just not what people expect out of a faith institution. They expect some level of authenticity, especially in the leadership. They would like religious institutions to practice what they preach.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: Butler Bass says the sex abuse scandal and cover-up in the Roman Catholic church and the fight over the ordination of an openly gay bishop in the Episcopal Church helped accelerate a long, slow decline in religious affiliation. Despite that, Butler Bass sees in America a new spiritual awakening.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DIANA BUTLER BASS<\/strong>: People who are in the unaffiliated categories are engaging in spiritual practices and those run the gamut from pilgrimage to contemplative prayer, to meditation and practices that connect us more fully with God, but they tend to be doing them sometimes in a congregation of faith, but more often in alternative locations.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: This meditation group in Boston is about as far from organized religion as you can get. The Humanist Community at Harvard is a home for non-believers, including atheists and agnostics, who do believe you don&#8217;t need God to be good.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2012\/10\/post03-nones-religious.jpg\" alt=\"Greg Epstein\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-13599\" \/><strong>GREG EPSTEIN (<\/strong>Harvard Humanist Chaplain and Author of <em>Good Without God<\/em>): The more important question to me, though, is not whether you can be good without God but what it means to be good in a world in which we don\u2019t have a God to tell us what to do or to help us when we need help. What it means to take care of each other, what it means to be there for one another, what it means to live an ethical life when this is the only life that we have. We\u2019re coming up with a new kind of community here to meet what is in a lot of ways a new kind of need.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: It&#8217;s a need that&#8217;s especially evident on campus. Younger Americans make up the largest group of the unaffiliated. Some grew up un-churched.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CHRIS STEDMAN<\/strong> (Associate Harvard Humanist Chaplain, Author of <em>Faithiest<\/em>): Religion just wasn\u2019t a part of our lives. I was baptized, but it was more just a reason to get the family together and after that, we never really went back.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: Chris Stedman found religion on his own and joined an Evangelical church. But soon after, he discovered he was gay and eventually left.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2012\/10\/post04-nones-religious.jpg\" alt=\"Chris Stedman\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-13600\" \/><strong>STEDMAN<\/strong>: The grand irony of the situation is that I became an Evangelical Christian because I was looking for a community, a place to belong and I was looking for a way of making sense of injustice and suffering, of grappling with this idea of suffering. But the irony of it is that becoming an evangelical Christian increased the amount of suffering in my life and also sort of alienated me from others.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: Now a self-described atheist, Stedman discovered he missed the shared values and service opportunities the church provided, something he&#8217;s found again with the Humanists.<\/p>\n<p><strong>STEDMAN<\/strong>: I thought maybe, you know, helping build up non-religious communities would be a way to provide people with opportunities to be civically engaged; to be involved in interfaith dialogue efforts; to do community service; to, you know, be more involved in their communities, be more organized.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: The vast majority of people who describe their religious affiliation as &#8220;nothing in particular&#8221; are quite happy that way. Ninety percent say they&#8217;re not looking for a religion that would be right for them. And for churches, that&#8217;s a conundrum and a challenge.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2012\/10\/post05-nones-religious.jpg\" alt=\"Pastor Mark Sandlin\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-13602\" \/>As the ranks of the unaffiliated have grown, the number of Americans who call themselves Protestant has declined, for the first time slipping below 50 percent. At Vandalia Presbyterian in Greensboro, North Carolina, Pastor Mark Sandlin is well aware of how much has changed. So he spent his recent three-month sabbatical trying to understand why, by doing something he&#8217;d never done before. He quit going to church.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PASTOR MARK SANDLIN <\/strong>(Vandalia Presbyterian Church): Parts of it I didn\u2019t miss. I wish I did. I really didn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: That surprise you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>PASTOR SANDLIN<\/strong>: It surprised me very, very deeply. I was a happier person, and part of that was getting removed from the dogma, getting removed from what really is some judgmental-ness that goes on in churches at times. It made a lot of space for my spirituality to grow and some happiness to enter into that space. I think we need to do work on that in churches, to create better space and handle relationships in a healthier way.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PASTOR SANDLIN<\/strong>: (Preaching) We confess that we do wish to love everyone, and we do try to love everyone&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2012\/10\/post06-nones-religious.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-13601\" \/><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: Many churches recognize their survival is at stake if they can\u2019t broaden their appeal. Some have changed the way they worship or their service times to fit today\u2019s lifestyles, but ultimately, the role of the ordained pastor may need to change too, from leader to partner.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PASTOR SANDLIN<\/strong>: A lot of ministers are used to kind of being the final word and the one in charge. I think we\u2018ve got to find new ways of modeling what church looks like and if you look at the biblical text, I find a hard time seeing great hierarchies. I see more discipleship of equals going on, and I think we\u2019ve got to learn how to do that within our churches.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: There&#8217;s no evidence that the unaffiliated tend to make their way back to church as they get older or have families. Kim Weeks and her husband are bringing up their two children without religion, while teaching them morality. She&#8217;s willing to let them go to church with their grandmothers\u2014one of whom is a minister\u2014but that&#8217;s about it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WEEKS<\/strong>: I can\u2019t imagine a scenario in which we would go back to church on a regular basis. I don\u2019t feel, and I check in on this a lot, any sense of longing over not being in a church or the church. I just don\u2019t miss it because, for a variety of reasons, it feels constricting.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PASTOR SANDLIN<\/strong>: I\u2019m genuinely worried that the existing church won\u2019t have much of a future 20, 30 years down the road. But in general I\u2019m not worried. The folks that I\u2019m in conversation with through this who consider themselves spiritual but they\u2019re not going to church, why would I worry? I mean, they\u2019re great people. They\u2019re in their communities, they\u2019re making a difference. I think there really is a space and an opportunity to be doing some ministry together.<\/p>\n<p><strong>POTTER<\/strong>: And why not be optimistic? The unaffiliated may not want to be in church but they&#8217;re not entirely hostile to religion. In fact, they mostly agree with believers that religious organizations strengthen communities and play an important role in helping the needy\u2014some common ground, at least, in a changing world.<\/p>\n<p>For Religion &amp; Ethics NewsWeekly, I&#8217;m Deborah Potter in Greensboro, North Carolina.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What effect will the fast-growing number of American adults who say they have no religious affiliation have on traditional organized religion? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2013\/03\/15\/october-26-2012-none-of-the-above-religious-implications\/13588\/\" class=\"more\">More <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":72,"featured_media":17998,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6569],"tags":[8745,1308,10619,5677,10874,6717,10872,989,9783],"class_list":["post-13588","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-videocast","tag-agnostics","tag-atheists","tag-diana-butler-bass","tag-meditation","tag-none-of-the-above","tag-religious-community","tag-religiously-unaffiliated","tag-spirituality","tag-yoga","topics-faith-and-spirituality"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>October 26, 2012 ~ None of the Above: Religious Implications | March 15, 2013 | Religion &amp; 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