{"id":1953,"date":"2009-01-16T09:00:28","date_gmt":"2009-01-16T13:00:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/?p=1953"},"modified":"2013-05-10T15:08:52","modified_gmt":"2013-05-10T19:08:52","slug":"january-16-2008-gustav-niebuhr-on-interfaith-understanding","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2009\/01\/16\/january-16-2008-gustav-niebuhr-on-interfaith-understanding\/1953\/","title":{"rendered":" Gustav Niebuhr on Interfaith Understanding"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>BOB ABERNETHY<\/strong>, anchor: The violence in Gaza may question whether people of different religions can ever learn to live together in peace. But especially since 9\/11, many religious leaders and scholars have been trying to identify their differences and work together in spite of them.\u00a0 I spoke with the author of a new book that celebrates interfaith projects at the grassroots.\u00a0 The title is <em>Beyond Tolerance<\/em>, and it\u2019s by former newspaperman turned Syracuse University professor Gustav Niebuhr, the great-nephew of theologian Reinhold Niebuhr. For him, promoting understanding between religions has become a calling.<\/p>\n<p>On 9\/11\/01, Niebuhr was a religion reporter at <em>The New York Times<\/em> in midtown Manhattan. He was profoundly moved by the sight of the smoke from the World Trade Center rising over New York.<\/p>\n<div class=\"captionRight\">\n<table border=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2009\/01\/gustavcu.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1979\" title=\"gustavcu\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2009\/01\/gustavcu.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"220\" height=\"146\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That sense of curiosity can lead to the destruction of stereotypes, and it\u2019s stereotypes that threaten us often in this world.&#8221;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<p>Professor <strong>GUSTAV NIEBUHR<\/strong> (Director, Religion and Society Program, Syracuse University and Author, <em>Beyond Tolerance<\/em>): It was the people inside who were incinerated. They were people from all different backgrounds, from all different faiths, and those of us who lived and worked in Manhattan, we didn\u2019t just see it; I believe we experienced it. We physically internalized it. We breathed in the ashes from the Trade Center so that in a way those people are part of us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Niebuhr applauds the theological conversations scholars are having, but he values at least as much the work of those he calls \u201ceveryday peacemakers\u201d in churches, synagogues, and mosques whose curiosity about each other\u2019s faith has led to conversation.<\/p>\n<p>Prof. <strong>NIEBUHR<\/strong>: That sense of curiosity can lead to the destruction of stereotypes, and it\u2019s stereotypes that threaten us often in this world. It\u2019s belief that those people over there are out to get us. They\u2019re no good \u2014 all of them are no good. Where does that lead us? That leads us into sort of fear and narrowness. That\u2019s what we need to get away from. That\u2019s not to say there aren\u2019t dangerous people. There are, and they have to be dealt with. But we can\u2019t allow our lives to be ruled by fear of others.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Niebuhr says local interfaith conversations can lead to joint projects and eventually to global peacemaking.<\/p>\n<p>Prof. <strong>NIEBUHR<\/strong>: It is not about being nice, and it is not about being tolerant. I mean tolerant doesn\u2019t really require very much. I think tolerance is a rather passive condition. But it is, in its own way, about going up against extremism.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Religious extremism, says Niebuhr, can produce catastrophic violence.<\/p>\n<p>Prof. <strong>NIEBUHR<\/strong>: That\u2019s why I think that people across religious boundaries, indeed across national boundaries, too, owe it to themselves to attempt to find the common humanity in each other, owe it to themselves to find ways of conversing and of working together, because the alternative can be so radically horrible.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Niebuhr cited the Catholic theologian Hans Kung.<\/p>\n<p>Prof. <strong>NIEBUHR<\/strong>: I\u2019ll paraphrase him. 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