{"id":2627,"date":"2009-04-10T11:00:03","date_gmt":"2009-04-10T16:00:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/?p=2627"},"modified":"2015-06-29T17:19:55","modified_gmt":"2015-06-29T21:19:55","slug":"april-10-2009-wintley-phipps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2009\/04\/10\/april-10-2009-wintley-phipps\/2627\/","title":{"rendered":" Wintley Phipps"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[MYPLAYLIST=13]<\/p>\n<p><strong>BOB ABERNETHY<\/strong>, anchor: As Christians celebrate Easter and their belief that Jesus rose from the dead, hope is a central theme. Hope also has been prominent in the life and music of Gospel singer Wintley Phipps. Phipps has been performing for more than 30 years. He got rave reviews in January when he sang at President Obama\u2019s Inaugural Prayer Service. He doesn\u2019t do a lot of interviews, but he did sit down with Kim Lawton.<\/p>\n<p><em>Pastor <strong>WINTLEY PHIPPS<\/strong> (singing at National Prayer Service, Washington National Cathedral): \u201cAmazing Grace, how sweet the sound&#8230;\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>KIM LAWTON<\/strong>: Grammy-nominated Gospel singer Wintley Phipps is a familiar voice at big national events. At President Barack Obama\u2019s National Prayer Service following his Inauguration, Phipps\u2019s rendition of \u201cAmazing Grace\u201d brought the entire National Cathedral audience, including the new president and first lady, to their feet. But he says it\u2019s just as meaningful to him when he sings in places like prisons.<\/p>\n<p>Pastor <strong>PHIPPS<\/strong>: There is a sense that you\u2019re giving hope to people who really need it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: For Phipps, who is also a Seventh-day Adventist pastor, music is a ministry and, he says, one of the deepest expressions of his Christian faith.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2666\" style=\"width: 250px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2666\" class=\"wp-image-2666 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/\/home\/wnetwp\/webroot\/wnet\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/9\/files\/2009\/04\/phippschild.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2666\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;I would dream that I was flying to faraway places in the world and meeting important people when I was six, seven years old.&#8221;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Pastor <strong>PHIPPS<\/strong>: Music is almost to me an echo of the sounds of the divine world. And when you hear these sounds, it stirs something deeply spiritual within you. Music also is the most powerful way of impressing the human mind with hope.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Hope has been a hallmark not only of Phipps\u2019s musical career, but in his charitable efforts as well. In 1998, Phipps founded the Dream Academy, a national nonprofit for at-risk kids. Born in Trinidad, he says hope was crucial in overcoming his own at-risk childhood.<\/p>\n<p>Pastor <strong>PHIPPS<\/strong>: I was born to a troubled home, and I used to get away from my parents\u2019 troubles \u2014 I had a little red tricycle, and I\u2019d go in the back yard of my house and I would turn the tricycle on its side and use one of the backside wheels as a steering wheel, and I would sit there for hours, and I would dream that I was flying to faraway places in the world and meeting important people when I was six, seven years old. And then I wanted to be like Tom Jones. I\u2019d go around the house singing \u201cIt&#8217;s not unusual to be loved.\u201d I just wanted to be Tom. But something was missing to me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Despite a difficult family life, Phipps says his mother always prayed for him and told him that God had a special plan for his life. As a teenager, Phipps embraced her faith as his own.<\/p>\n<p>Pastor <strong>PHIPPS<\/strong>: At the age of 16, God walked into my life and said \u201cI&#8217;ve seen your dreams. Give me your dreams, and I\u2019ll let you see what I\u2019ve been dreaming for you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: He attended an historically black Seventh-day Adventist college in Alabama, where he met Linda, now his wife of 32 years. Then, Phipps says, God began providing opportunities for him to sing in national venues such as a 1984 appearance on \u201cSaturday Night Live\u201d with Jesse Jackson. He came to the attention of Billy Graham\u2019s team and became a frequent performer at the evangelist\u2019s crusades.<\/p>\n<p><em>Pastor <strong>PHIPPS<\/strong> (singing in Washington): Talk about a child that do love Jesus.<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"captionRight\">\n<table class=\"mceItemTable\" border=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2667\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2009\/04\/usdreamacademy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" \/><br \/>\n<strong>One of the most exciting things that can ever happen in a child\u2019s life is to know that \u201cyou mean God thinks about me, or God dreams about me?&#8221;<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Phipps also became a favorite in Washington. He\u2019s sung for every president since Ronald Reagan.<\/p>\n<p>Pastor <strong>PHIPPS<\/strong>: I\u2019ve never had a manager or never had an agent, and yet some of the most wonderful moments that a singer could ever dream of have happened to me, and I believe it\u2019s providential.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: The idea for the Dream Academy came after he got involved with a prison ministry.<\/p>\n<p>Pastor <strong>PHIPPS<\/strong>: I did not know that so many young men in prison looked like my sons, and when I saw it I was shaken. One of every three young black men in America between the ages of 18 and 30 are in prison today or supervised by the court system either on probation or parole.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Phipps then learned that 60 percent of the young people who end up in prison are the children of prisoners. He wanted to break the cycle of intergenerational incarceration. The Dream Academy offers after-school mentoring and interactive academic tutoring to children of prisoners and kids falling behind at school.<\/p>\n<p>Pastor <strong>PHIPPS<\/strong>: One of the most exciting things that can ever happen in a child\u2019s life is to know that \u201cyou mean God thinks about me, or God dreams about me and he\u2019s got a dream for my life?\u201d And when you catch a little glimpse of what that dream is, wow, it changes everything.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Phipps has enlisted the support of some of his famous connections for the project. One of his biggest benefactors is his longtime friend Oprah Winfrey. The lesson of faith, he says, is that things aren\u2019t always as they seem and that hardship can be overcome. In these uncertain economic times, he\u2019s released a new music DVD called \u201cNo Need to Fear.\u201d For Phipps, it ties back to the Christian belief in the resurrection of Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>Pastor <strong>PHIPPS<\/strong>: To know that I can put my faith in someone who walked out of a grave. The Easter message to me is a message of tremendous hope, and if we don\u2019t have to fear death, what else is there that should cause us to fear? Nothing.<\/p>\n<p><em>(singing at Easter event): Arise my love. Arise my love. The grave no longer has a hold on you.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: It\u2019s a theme he finds throughout the old spirituals that he often performs.<\/p>\n<div class=\"captionLeft\">\n<table class=\"mceItemTable\" border=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2662\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2009\/04\/piano.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;A lot of people don\u2019t realize that just about all Negro spirituals are written on the black notes of the piano.&#8221;<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<p><em>Pastor PHIPPS (singing): Swing low sweet chariot, coming for to carry me home . . .<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The Negro spiritual teaches us that you\u2019re going come up rough sides of mountains, and you\u2019re going to have difficulties. But faith gives you that ability to weather any storm.<\/p>\n<p><em>(singing): I looked over Jordan and what did I see?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: It\u2019s the core theme as well for the song that has become his signature, \u201cAmazing Grace.\u201d He finds great spiritual lessons in the history of the song.<\/p>\n<p>Pastor <strong>PHIPPS<\/strong>: A lot of people don\u2019t realize that just about all Negro spirituals are written on the black notes of the piano, and they just keep recurring. Probably the most famous white spiritual that\u2019s built on this slave scale was written by a man by the name of John Newton who, before he became a Christian, used to be the captain of a slave ship and many believe heard this melody that sounds very much like a West African sorrow chant<em> (hums \u201cAmazing Grace\u201d)<\/em>. And it has a haunting, haunting plaintive quality to it that reaches past your arrogance, past your pride, and it speaks to that part of you that\u2019s in bondage, and we feel it. We feel it. It\u2019s just one of the most amazing melodies in all of human history.<\/p>\n<p><em>(performing \u201cAmazing Grace\u201d on stage): To sing God\u2019s praise than when we\u2019ve first begun. Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Amen.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Another lesson, he says, on how hope always triumphs. I\u2019m Kim Lawton in Vero Beach, Florida.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[MYPLAYLIST=13] BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: As Christians celebrate Easter and their belief that Jesus rose from the dead, hope is a central theme. Hope also has been prominent in the life and music of Gospel singer Wintley Phipps. 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