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TIM O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>, correspondent: The Supreme Court is asked to consider thousands of appeals every year. The justices end up taking about one in a hundred, usually difficult cases that divide the lower courts. But few cases present the head-on collision of constitutional principles and other precious values as the case of Christian Legal Society v Leo Martinez. Martinez is the dean and acting chancellor of the Hastings College of the Law in San Francisco and the defendant in this case, after his law school refused to give official recognition to the Christian Legal Society, thereby denying it funding and any right of access to school facilities.<\/p>\n

Headquartered at this office building outside Washington, DC, the Christian Legal Society is a national network of lawyers who are guided by their Christian faith. There are student chapters at law schools across the country. The chapter at Hastings opens its meetings to all students, but members are asked to sign the Christian Legal Society statement of faith<\/a>: \u201cTrusting in Jesus Christ as my Savior, I believe in: One God, eternally existent in three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.\u201d If you don\u2019t sign the statement of faith, you cannot vote or hold office.<\/p>\n

\"post01-clsmartinez\"Members must also accept the society\u2019s sexual morality standards, which state that any \u201csexually immoral lifestyle\u201d is grounds for disqualification, including \u201call acts of sexual conduct outside of God\u2019s design for marriage between one man and one woman.\u201d That was enough for Dean Martinez to deny the Christian Legal Society official law school recognition.<\/p>\n

LEO MARTINEZ<\/strong> (Dean and Acting Chancellor, Hastings College of the Law): We are a public institution. When we admit students, we tell them we will admit you regardless of your beliefs, regardless of your race, regardless of whether you\u2019re striped or not, and I think part of our promise when they come here is that they are allowed to share in the full educational experience of Hastings, and I think it\u2019s a terrible thing that we would have to do to say, \u201cYes, we will admit you. Oh, but by the way there are certain groups where you\u2019re not welcome.\u201d And to the extent we\u2019re a public institution and we\u2019re using public money to fund our student groups, I think we simply can\u2019t do that.<\/p>\n

O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: To Martinez, it\u2019s a simple case of discrimination, and the law school doesn\u2019t have to support it.<\/p>\n

GREG BAYLOR<\/strong> (Attorney, Christian Legal Society): This is not discrimination. This is about shared beliefs.<\/p>\n

O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: Attorney Greg Baylor says requiring the Christian Legal Society to allow nonbelievers to vote and hold office strikes at the society\u2019s very identity\u2014its core mission.<\/p>\n

BAYLOR<\/strong>: It makes no sense for a public university to force the Republicans to have a Young Democrat as their leader. It makes no sense for the environmentalists\u2019 group to be forced to have a lumberjack who\u2019s out there cutting down trees to be the messenger for it. The Constitution is clear about this. It protects the rights of groups to come together to articulate their messages and to choose their messengers.<\/p>\n

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O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: California, and especially San Francisco, where the law school is located, has shown great tolerance of the gay and lesbian lifestyle. The city was among the nation\u2019s first to adopt an ordinance prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation. For the Christian Legal Society, to deny membership to students who are gay not only violates the law school policy, it may also violate local law.<\/p>\n

(speaking to Greg Baylor): This is discrimination based on sexual orientation.<\/p>\n

BAYLOR<\/strong>: It\u2019s not discrimination based on sexual orientation.<\/p>\n

O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: Well, it is\u2014if those who are gay cannot join, and those who are not gay can join, that\u2019s discrimination.<\/p>\n

BAYLOR<\/strong>: What Christian Legal Society cares about is a person\u2019s belief in, and commitment to, its Christian ideals. Christians traditionally have believed that sexuality is reserved for the relationship of marriage between one man and one woman. It\u2019s not discriminatory. Christian Legal Society allows all people to come in to participate in its meetings, to be there, to witness what happens. What we\u2019re talking about here is the ability of a group to preserve its message, and it doesn\u2019t make sense for a public university to say to a private student group you have to give up your Christian faith in order to get the same privileges that other groups have.<\/p>\n

O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: The teachings of the Christian faith dominate the meetings. At this meeting at a law school in Virginia, students brainstormed over whether their faith required them to adhere to a higher ethical standard than the profession itself requires.<\/p>\n

\"post03-clsmartinez\"CHRISTIAN LEGAL SOCIETY STUDENT<\/strong>: In addition to being lawyers we\u2019re Christians, and we have standards as Christians we want to live up to.<\/p>\n

O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: The signature activities of CLS chapters are weekly Bible studies, which in addition to discussion of the text usually include prayer and other forms of worship.<\/p>\n

O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: Would a student chapter of, say, B\u2019nai B\u2019rith, a Jewish Anti-Defamation League, have to admit Muslims?<\/p>\n

MARTINEZ<\/strong>: The short answer is yes.<\/p>\n

O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: A black group would have to admit white supremacists?<\/p>\n

MARTINEZ<\/strong>: It would.<\/p>\n

O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: Even if it means a black student organization is going to have to admit members of the Ku Klux Klan?<\/p>\n

MARTINEZ<\/strong>: Yes.<\/p>\n

O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: You can see where that might cause some consternation?<\/p>\n

MARTINEZ<\/strong>: Well, there\u2019s a Spanish saying to the effect that \u201cthe thinnest of tortillas still has two sides,\u201d and the other side of that is that with any other regime we would be forced, using public money, to subsidize the discriminatory practices of a particular group.<\/p>\n

O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: This case reaches the Supreme Court at a time in the nation\u2019s history when our society and our law are much more supportive of inclusion than they are of exclusion. Laws have sprung up in cities and states against discrimination that go far beyond anything the Constitution might require. Yet the First Amendment also guarantees freedom of association, a fundamental right to gather with whomever we choose and collectively express ourselves. The danger in this case is that it may be impossible for the Supreme Court to reconcile this dispute without compromising one of those cherished principles.<\/p>\n

For Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly, I\u2019m Tim O\u2019Brien at the Supreme Court.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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