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BOB ABERNETHY<\/strong>, correspondent: At Harvard University, Arthur Kleinman is a medical doctor, a professor of both psychiatry and anthropology, and the director of Harvard\u2019s Asia Center<\/a>. Until 2003, life had treated him well. He was widely respected professionally, and he and his wife, Joan, a China scholar, had a happy marriage, with grown children and grandchildren\u2014and then calamity. Joan Kleinman developed a form of Alzheimer\u2019s disease that brought both dementia and blindness. Arthur Kleinman became her caregiver.<\/p>\n

PROFESSOR ARTHUR KLEINMAN<\/strong>: It is love. It\u2019s about the fact that you are there. This was the deal you made when you got married. The deal was to be there for that person, them for you. I helped her bathe, helped her dress, helped with feeding, and the feeling I had, I would say, was generally one of empowerment, to my\u2014which was remarkable especially at the onset, that I just felt that as I learned to do the things and did them I felt a hell of a lot better, and I felt I was really contributing. I also felt it was self-strengthening in some way. It reaffirmed my love and my commitment to her, and over time, though, I think it drains you emotionally and physically as the requirements get greater, as you have to help your spouse out of bed, take them to the bath, make sure that they are safe in getting into the bath, getting out. You are constrained as the other person really begins to disintegrate in front of you, so my wife\u2019s dementia led to a delirium in which not only didn\u2019t she recognize me and the like, but she would be at times incoherent, flailing wildly, very paranoid about me and others because of the sense she couldn\u2019t see and couldn\u2019t understand what was happening.<\/p>\n

\"post02-kleinman\"ABERNETHY<\/strong>: But Kleinman says his wife\u2019s essential personhood did not disappear.<\/p>\n

KLEINMAN<\/strong>: The memory may go. They may not recognize who you are, may not remember from minute to minute what you said. But you can still see, in the way they respond to you, feelings, deep feelings that represent the fact that they know you\u2019re important in their life even though they\u2019re not quite sure whether you\u2019re the husband or the son or what your name is and the like.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: I asked, did you ever feel angry?<\/p>\n

KLEINMAN<\/strong>: Yeah, absolutely, and I think that anyone who says that they\u2019re not angry in a situation like this at times is not fully honest.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: But there was a feeling much stronger than anger.<\/p>\n

KLEINMAN<\/strong>: I think it\u2019s the sadness, the sense of a deepening despair\u2014that you realize that this is not going to go away. This is going to get worse. You realize that this is a terminal illness.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: As Dr. Kleinman balanced his work and his caregiving, he says he found great meaning in the Chinese Confucian tradition he and his wife had both studied.<\/p>\n

\"post03-kleinman\"KLEINMAN<\/strong>: The deep commitment to family, the idea that family was central to everything that you did. The respect you have for somebody else\u2014that your own humanness deepens as you engage the humanness of somebody else.<\/p>\n

I found that that relationship became increasingly tied to my moral view of things\u2014that I had enormous respect for her, that I felt that it was crucial for me to help her maintain her dignity. There is something remarkable about that feeling of being present with someone else, and I felt that for a long time in our relationship, and I felt that deepen as there were more acts for me to do. It was in the doing that I felt I was a caregiver. Not in thinking about it, not in talking to people about it, but actually doing it. The acts themselves I saw as moral acts.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Between the years 2000 and 2050, it\u2019s estimated that the number of people 65 and over will more than double, and the number 85 and over will quadruple. And the longer people live, the more likely they are to suffer chronic diseases, failures of the body and the brain\u2014to need care.<\/p>\n

KLEINMAN<\/strong>: We have never seen the situation around the world, not just in the United States, look the way it is. We have left out of our thinking one of the cornerstones of society.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Kleinman recalled last year\u2019s debate about health care reform.<\/p>\n

\"post04-kleinman\"KLEINMAN<\/strong>: How much attention was given to the nitty-gritty of caregiving, the content of caregiving? I would say almost zero, okkay, almost no attention to that. And yet this is what families are going to face in the future.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Because he had bought long-term care insurance, Kleinman was able to hire a home health aide to help when he wasn\u2019t there. He says she was indispensable. But by last summer Kleinman had come to realize that his wife needed more care than he could give. So, reluctantly, he moved her to a nursing home.<\/p>\n

KLEINMAN<\/strong>: That was the most difficult thing. That is, that I had made up my mind that I would take care of my wife until the end, and I did it for seven to eight years until a point at which I recognized I couldn\u2019t do it anymore. I couldn\u2019t handle\u2014and I\u2019m a psychiatrist\u2014I could not handle the agitation part of it, where she became so agitated and so distressed, and she really needed a safe place to be, etc., where she would be less paranoid and less threatened by things.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: But then, new questions: how close to Joan could he continue to be? How often could he visit? How long should he stay?<\/p>\n

KLEINMAN<\/strong>: When you\u2019ve been deeply in love with someone for 45 years and greatly enmeshed together, that issue of distance is a recognition that someone is dying, that this is approaching the end, that you yourself are preparing yourself for the end, and I think it\u2019s very difficult. I think it\u2019s very, very difficult. I found it to be extremely, extremely difficult.<\/p>\n

Editor’s Note: Joan Kleinman died on March 6, 2011. She was 71.<\/em><\/p>\n

Video clip of Arthur Kleinman teaching the Harvard Extension School<\/a> course “Health, Culture, and Community” is provided courtesy of the Harvard Extension School. Copyright 2010, President and Fellows of Harvard College.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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