{"id":7272,"date":"2010-10-15T18:16:25","date_gmt":"2010-10-15T22:16:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/?p=7272"},"modified":"2013-05-10T15:20:30","modified_gmt":"2013-05-10T19:20:30","slug":"october-15-2010-pastor-david-platt-on-the-gospel-of-wealth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2010\/10\/15\/october-15-2010-pastor-david-platt-on-the-gospel-of-wealth\/7272\/","title":{"rendered":" Pastor David Platt on the Gospel of Wealth"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- http:\/\/www-tc.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/rss\/media\/video\/episode.1407.david.platt.m4v  --><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align:center\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>PASTOR DAVID PLATT<\/strong>: I\u2019m in over my head at every level.  Don\u2019t tell that to this church, but I\u2019m clueless. Yeah, if you could keep that a secret, but I am clueless.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LUCKY SEVERSON<\/strong>, correspondent: \u201cClueless\u201d is not the word members would use to describe Pastor David Platt here at the Church at Brook Hills in Birmingham, Alabama. He has a doctorate and two master\u2019s degrees from the New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary. At 26, he became the youngest pastor in the country to lead a megachurch\u2014a rich megachurch. And then something radical happened.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PLATT<\/strong>: I guess I would call it a crisis of belief, where looking at the Bible and I\u2019m preaching and I\u2019m thinking do I really believe this?<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: He started questioning how his Christian beliefs are intertwined with the American dream of prosperity and success.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2010\/10\/post01-platt.jpg\" alt=\"post01-platt\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-7277\" \/><strong>PLATT<\/strong>: I don\u2019t in any way want to come across as anti-America. At the same time there are some ideals and values that are at the core of the American dream that are really contrary, even antithetical to the gospel that Jesus preached, and then the American dream obviously leads us sometimes in pursuits of money and possessions and pleasures in this world.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: What troubled him was the material comfort of his congregation and the multimillion-dollar megachurch they worship in. This was not the picture he had of the humble ministry of Christ.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PLATT<\/strong>: This idea that if you believe God, have enough faith, that he will give you health or wealth or prosperity, I don\u2019t think, first of all, that it is a gospel at all. It\u2019s not the good news that Jesus preached. More than health and wealth, Jesus I think gives us a picture more of a homeless and wounded gospel, and even the New Testament church is not a picture of prosperity theology. It\u2019s a picture of adversity theology, persecution, struggles, poverty, helping one another out.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: Recent surveys have shown that while a significant number of mainline churches in the US have been losing members, many of those that preach the so-called prosperity gospel and the big churches, the megachurches, have been gaining members, churches like Faith Chapel, another even bigger megachurch in Birmingham led by Pastor Michael Moore. Pastor Moore\u2019s church has grown from a few members to over 8,000. He\u2019s dressed casually because this particular Sunday was set aside as a casual worship day. Members say Pastor Moore\u2019s scholarship of the Bible is one reason the church has grown so large. Here\u2019s his view of the prosperity gospel:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2010\/10\/post02-platt.jpg\" alt=\"post02-platt\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-7278\" \/><strong>PASTOR MICHAEL MOORE<\/strong>: If you read the scripture, prosperity is all through the Bible. It\u2019s not a prosperity gospel; it\u2019s a gospel that includes prosperity. I think God is good, and I think God want to bless us with material things. I think the issue is not whether God want to bless us with material things. I think the issue is why are you pursing God? See, are you pursing God to get something from him, or are you pursuing God for God\u2019s sake? Now if you\u2019re pursuing God for God\u2019s sake, then God will bless you with things.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: The church\u2019s new domes will soon house a bowling alley, a basketball court, and a play area for children, which Pastor Moore intends to eventually open up for his congregation and for poor kids in the neighborhood.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MOORE<\/strong>: I think we should all give to the poor. I think we should all bless the poor. I think those who have it should give. The question I would ask him or anyone else: how can I give something to the poor if I don\u2019t have it?<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: Many of Pastor Platt\u2019s members do have it to give, but some were jolted out of their comfort zone when he told them they should follow the lead of the early Christian church and give their lives and their wealth over to God and those in need. He called it a radical experiment and published a book that has become quite popular called \u201cRadical.&#8221; It&#8217;s about taking back your faith from the American dream.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PLATT<\/strong>: For some people that means selling there home, some people it doesn\u2019t. For some people that means getting rid of this possession or living at this lifestyle, capping their lives here, capping their lives over here. It\u2019s not a\u2014there\u2019s no hard and fast rules, I think, for what this looks like.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2010\/10\/post03-platt.jpg\" alt=\"post03-platt\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-7279\" \/><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: The pastor calculates that Christian churches in the US spend $10 billion a year on buildings and own property valued at $230 billion. He says too many churches are acting like big corporations, but Brook Hills is now constantly looking for ways trim its budget.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PLATT<\/strong>: Okay, how can we begin to reapportion this? Well, first of all, how can we put it all on the table and say God, whatever you want us to do and if you want us to sell this building then we will do that. We want to do whatever you want to do. If you want us to reallocate the use of this building for other purposes then we want to do that, and that\u2019s part of what we\u2019ve done in our budget.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: One of the sacrifices Pastor Platt challenges members to make is to go serve in places where there is vast physical and spiritual need\u2014places like India and Africa. Over 250 members have moved to Third World countries to serve for three months, a year, or more to evangelize and to lend a hand. It was places like these that deeply influenced Platt\u2019s theology.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PLATT<\/strong>: I remember one moment even locking eyes with this five-, six-year-old girl who was standing in her front yard, but it was basically a pile of trash and with a little blue tarp for a home, and I remember thinking my life is created for something much more than just a nice, comfortable Christian spin on the American dream.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: Some members choose places closer to home, like Chuck and Margaret Clark and their three children. They sold their large home in a well-heeled Birmingham suburb and moved to the inner city, though not without trepidation.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2010\/10\/post04-platt.jpg\" alt=\"post04-platt\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-7280\" \/><strong>MARGARET CLARK<\/strong>: I had probably two primary concerns, and one was giving up my earthly comforts, and then secondly was just the fear for my children. We were aware of the drugs and the alcohol and the sexual promiscuity downtown, and it was just causing me a great deal of fear.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CLARK<\/strong>: Well, you can look around and see there\u2019s lots of apartments that have been burned out, and there was a girl that got off a school bus here that was shot and killed recently.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: The Clarks have only been in their new downsized home a couple months, but they\u2019re slowly getting to know the neighbors, evangelizing when its appropriate, and helping out where they can. Margaret is no longer afraid.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CLARK<\/strong>: We want to redefine success for our children. If my children are kind, and if they are compassionate, and that they are willing to take risks for others the way Christ took a risk for us, then I will accept that definition as success for them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: Sacrifices by Brook Hill members have come in big ways and small, but in ways that are transformational.<\/p>\n<p><strong>AMANDA MCCOLLUM<\/strong>: I\u2019m actually a preacher\u2019s kid, so I\u2019ve been in church since before I was born, and it really just changed the way I view the church and the church\u2019s role in the world.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2010\/10\/post05-platt.jpg\" alt=\"post05-platt\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-7281\" \/><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: Amanda McCollum is a financial planner who went on her first mission trip this summer to Guatemala. She now pays her tithes on her gross salary rather than her net earnings.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MCCOLLUM<\/strong>: That was one of the big steps. I quit my gym membership, and I cut back on my cable. I kind of pause my cable six months out of the year and then turn it back on for football season.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PLATT<\/strong>: Sitting here in the office one day with a very wealthy man in our faith family. He comes in and he says, \u201cPastor, I think you are crazy for saying some of the things you are saying.\u201d  And I said, \u201cOkay,\u201d and he said, \u201cBut the reality is you\u2019re only saying what Jesus said,\u201d and so he begins to share about how he is selling his home and cars, and with tears in his eyes this man looks at me and says, \u201cI want my life to count.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(speaking to congregation): Aren\u2019t you glad God gives second chances?<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: When he first started preaching his radical theology, it was simply too much for some members. They left the church.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PLATT<\/strong>: It\u2019s been a struggle. I mean, there\u2019s been a constant tension, I think, in our faith family. When Jesus said some of the things he said and the crowds sometimes left, I mean totally left. The reality is when Jesus got to the end of his time on earth there were only 120 people who had actually stuck around and done what he told them to do in Acts chapter 1. I mean, that\u2019s not a megachurch, that\u2019s a mini-church.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVERSON<\/strong>: He lost members in the beginning, but now Platt says the church has more disciples than when he started, which is about 4300. No way to tell what\u2019s next. According to the pastor, the sacrifices have only begun.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The gospel of Jesus Christ is not a prosperity gospel, according to megachurch leader David Platt. 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